whats your opinion...... when we die..... is hell a place we go to , another plane of existence.... or do you believe we are already in hell.... or do we make our own hell?
myself i believe that we make our own hell
I don't believe in hell. It was made up by Christians to make you believe that Christianity (God) is the only thing that can save you from hell.
i do not believe in hell but i belive that where we are right now is the worse it can be
like in the movie bill and ted go to hell. to each his or her own.
I believe in Hell, but I couldn't really say what I believe it could be. I'd imagine it's different for everyone. Probably the worst things you can imagine combined in one place.
Hell is a place that brings the most pain to you. Wether it be horrid memories, or the most physically painful condition possible. All it is, is whatever puts you in the most distress.
"It was made up by Christians to make you believe that Christianity (God) is the only thing that can save you from hell."
Not to sound like a bible thumper or anything, but I have to disagree with that.
The christians didn't just make it up out of nowhere to make people go to church. In fact, God doesn't even have to be the one in the bible that everyone pictures with a long ass beard, and white robes. God is whoever you worship. If you follow the path of your god, you'll go to heaven, which is a place that gives you complete serenity. This is just my take on religion. Again, I'm not trying to sound like the person saying, "My religion is the only one that gets people into heaven, and there's no other way there."
yes! i believe its what you make it....... it would be the worst pain imagineable times ten
i think that with everything that is going on in the world today, that this is hell. hopefully it will just get better when we pass
The idea of Hell is no more than an expression of separation from the source(or God). I believe this question was just answered in another thread along the same lines.
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Used to believe in it, but after doing alot of searching up on the origin of it...I has come to my knowledge that such a place does not exist.
Hell is the physical Relm...as opposed to the Pure Energy relm...And yes One does create their own Hell...Bad choices, lack of fore thought, karmic set backs, bad intent..all lead to Hell on earth...
Good post not sure what my thoughts are on this topic however..
Hell on earth sure..
It's all what you make off it. I could say that I'm in hell right now but that doesn't mean that demons are ripping into my with there tiny little teeth as the devil laughs in the background (no idea where that came from but that seems to be what Christians picture hell to be... maybe, I wouldn't know).
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I believe hell is a place by definition that is suppose to be bad. My opinion of it is.... We live in our own hell. What we make of our lives and deaths is what it is whether it be a hell or a heaven.
We definately make our own hell. Being trapped in a shell alone is insufferable tourment.
that kinda is a good ? now i think hell is wat we make it
i think its a place where u go when you choose to go just what the christians all say isnt all true!!! i can guarantee it because if they are all going to heaven why are the majority of them ass holes????? not cuttin anyone down or anything but they were the reason why witches were burned at the stake im sorry but we are people too
A cup of hot coffee, a bran muffin, and a traffic jam....
Hell is a mental state.
Ladycat, how is different hades from hell?
it all really depends on your belief system
if you are farmilliar with Dante
he believed that hell is just a cave created by god, in which the farther you go into the cave the worse the crime, as well as at the very bottom the devi. However Dante expressed hell as a cold and damp place because the devil was trapped in the middle of an ice lake.
He also thought up Pergatory which god created to be a pathway to heaven for those who were sinners, however, did not sin bad enough to go to hell.
Though if you believe in the second form of hell, it is on the opposite side of the universe than heaven. filled with Black fire and ash so that it is extremelly hot.
If Heaven would be something better then life, then Hell would be something worse then this life, but then again this could be hell for some other way of existence, or heaven too, but because this life is the only one that we are conscious of, then we will never know - what the hell is? :)
the whole idea of God and the Devil is laughable, becaus apparently, if your really bad, some great magical giant that lives in the clouds will send you to some bean person's lair at the core of the earth to be punished, but if you worship 'satan' then wouldnt he reward you, not punish you? so its the choice of a boring life and heaven, or a fun life, and hell.
I believe that when u die. u live in ur own personal hell such as, fears, and or things that you have done in the life that you were living that you remorse doing. things that will haunt you for all eternity.
I believe that we are in hell already..But then again some of us make our own hell..It is hard to explain from my point of view, because I have made my own and have lived in this horrible place long enough to think that this is hell...
i beleave we are in hell, its all around us and thers only one way out, and its ur choice
Well every great rock star is apparently there already, so... it's an arena... with a kickass sound system. And an inflatable Satan suspended above the stage.
LMAO
Well I am MyMentalHell
and thats what you get for marrying an intelligent woman... shame on you for not picking a trophy wife. :p
I believe that right now we are in purgatory, being judged as we live, and that our souls, upon death, will leave. To where, i dont know, but if it's better than this reality, i'm excited. If its worse, oh well. I still plan to live untill i'm ded anyways.
I believe that we live in hell! That hell is here on earth!
the funny thing with me is that i dont believe in heaven or god, but i do believe that we all create our own devils and when we die, depending on the severity of our "sins" our own hell is created
my idea is that.
Hell is in our mind's.
it depends on how u are,and how u conducted your self when u were here.
So look into your self>>>WERE are U going 2 end up??????
hell is a grocery store that sells nothing but grape nuts and water.
i believe that there is no hell or heaven, and there is only a earth, and every one has been sent down here to done something, but you dont know what that something is, not even the creator knows. he just makes you. how your life turns out is how you make.
Hell is the conscious denial of true freedom. Hell is the absence of Pure Love. There are no daemons to torment because the torment of being denied the one thing you realise you wanted most is out of your reach due to your free choices.
That which is the Ultimate Good - some call it God, is in all places at all times - or rather out of time. It is the eternal pain of that Presence which is Hell.
Interestingly, Hell was NOT created for Humans but for the Angels that rebelled. One early Church Father said it best: "The Fire of Hell is not the fire of Satan, but the Fire of the Love of God".
DISCLAIMER: This is the view of the Ancient Orthodox Catholic Church of the East. Other faiths and mileage may vary. I comment upon this Faith because I KNOW it. I do not say the others are wrong. There are too many to debate and this forum is not for that. I have stated my belief and that of 250,000,000 others. Perhaps a Roman Catholic will express the view she holds and the 1,000,000,000 other Latins. END DISCLAIMER
hell is a place were you can see the food, but you just can;t taste it.
i believe that when we die we feel all of the pain and hate and love that we have everr given to any body and for some ppl that creats a hell for others a peacfull sleep
"Hell is knowing that a skunk has been in your backyard" 
i am mormon, so i have a very certain belief about hell that it is a state of mind... i could explain more but only to whoever is interested bc not a lot of ppl like mormons and i dont want to offend anyone. but if anyone ever has any quetions about it go ahead and ask, we are often misunderstood...
i believe we are in hell......when you die your body is finally at peace.....i will spare you the religious babble .....
I think the movie "what dreams may come " expresses my understanding of heaven and hell the best
hell is all your hopes and dreams falling apart in front of you....every good thing being taken from you....every triumph collapsing into a failure...
and I believe it is brought on by the inability to forgive yourself.....not by some other entity not fogiving you...but by not forgiving yourself....
hell is over rated...in actuality we cant be sure what it entails cuz non of us have died and gone to hell and come back to tell the tale
it bolies down to what you believe it to be and to me..its not what everything thinks it is
lmao.... no your ex wife/husband doesnt count... all though it should.....
hell is something a bunch of drunk guys made you when they wrote a book called the "bible"
Hell may very well be a state of mind brought on to ones self by doing things in there life they percieve to be bad, there for recieving the 3 fold law of the world of wicca. They did something bad so now only bad things happen to them. That is definatly hell ( BEEN THERE DONE THAT WONT DO IT AGAIN)
i tend to believe in reincarnation... but i like the grapenuts and water concept.
wow though... i think daermon's right with what dreams may come... hell (if it exists) to me would look just like that.
I believe hell is what you make of it. Certain people have different fears and feelings on suffereing. But your views on those things defines what your own hell is.
I believe Hell is a few things.
First, the Hell that Christians are always telling you about is the place where murderers, child killers, the Nazis(especially the SS and the high ranking leaders such as Goebbels, Himmler, and of course Hitler), etc go (anyone who deserves to be tortured for eternity).
Hell can also be something that we create or we must live in (through bad choices, natural disasters such as the tsunami, 3rd world countries). This hell may or not be able to be solved (it depends on the situation).
Hell could also be your worst case scenario, whatever that maybe (be it stuck in a world all by yourself, being tormented by any bullies you may have faced or fears or anything really). This form of Hell can be similar to the second form of Hell I described in my last paragraph, but of course, it all depends on circumstance and situation.
Just my thoughts.
I don't think there is a heaven or a hell. When we die, who we are dies with us. And then there is no more.
I really don't know what hell could be for each person. It could be different for everyone, the same, it could be different but in the same place, etc. I also have another view about hell in my journal titled "You don't even know..." I don't mean to cound egotistic, but I do have a good point by it.
Hell is real. But it differs immensely from person to person. Some people's hell is a place of fire and brimstone. Some people's, a loss of everything they held dear. Some, a place of eternal torment where souls judged as unworthy go. Hell cannot be one place, one universal punishment, in the same way that no two people can concieve of the exact same heaven. Personally, I hope to end up in Hades, have my promised drink of the river Lethe, and end my journey in sweet forgetfulness.
Smiles at VladVoivod. I know the faith you are talking about and indeed the Hell was created for the fallen angels. It also says that the Hell might not be in the deepest of the earth as we know it but in the deepst of the skyes. Metaphorically of course.
Your own state of mind. Its not imposed upon you by anything else.
Hell is alot easier to explain, than what Heaven is. :)
*should be in Sandbox*
Was first based on the old Greek underworld - Hades.
I believe Hell is a state of mind of not being given the ultimate luxuries of Heaven because you were not faithful...
I belive that we are in hell and if we do good this time around then we go to the next level , although all the best musicians seem to be going there tc
hell is a bedtime story that we are told so well be good
Hell is being sent back to this plane of existance to live another full lifetime.
it looks to be in the right place to me...... it is a general discussion right? if i am wrong please correct me..... :)
Technically, it is a vaguely parallel subject, yes.
:) STABB
Hell is all around us....just look and convince yourself, if u wanna see light, u must seek it very, very long time; and there is no guarantee u'll find it......
Thats a really great question..Hmm
well In my opinion well I really don't know i mean it really depends on your belifes
I belive that we are in Hell at the moment but if there is one I will be there..lol
But to be honest everyone has their own definiton of Hell rather it be a place where we burn for our sins, where we are now, Maybe there is no Hell maybe after we are dead thats it we just die no longer haveing a aura or spirit or maybe some choose for it to be their destination. Who really knows? I got the answer no one. You will not know till you die and see for yourself.
I believe that Hell is what we go through day to day based on the choices we make each day...If you make the wrong choices your Hell is worse..
I think we're in hell, but i think ppl make hell worse by the actions they take..
but were in hell..
There is no place called Hell or even Hades. Asatru will teach of a Goddess named Hel. She is the Goddess of the "Underworld". We on the plane known as "Midgardh". I beleive Midgardh is a compilation of 6 different races from 6 different planes (mentioned in Asatru) come here to prove themselves to the Gods and Goddesses. The Honorable and Slain go to "Vahalla" in "Asgardh". The unworthy either go to "Underworld" or back to their home plane. Some tend to escape their home plane or Underwold and come here. Some are here as punishment such as myself.
Oh yeah...one more thing. LadyLoveCat had a good point too. The image of the so called "hell" (Underworld) came from the Christians. They steal the realities of the stories past done around the world and compile them into their own book and add what they want to get ppl to follow their ways of deceit and bigotry.
Aye, that is true...Satans. Hell is not a place but more like a mental state, to what we see/experience here on earth.
Hmm, I feel the need to defend Hades. Hades is not hell, it is the underworld. Good or bad, those who believe in it still and bring the fee for the boatman Charon will end up down there. After being judged, they will be separated. The evil to places where their soul will suffer for the things they have done (think Tantalus and Sisyphus) the good to the Elysian fields. In Hades, the dead drink from the rver of forgetfulness, the Lethe, and they spend their afterlife in forgetful bliss, with no memories of the life they had. I believe in reincarnation, though I hope that when I die this time, I may find my peace in Hades.
MorbidThoughts- Not faithful to what, though?
BlackRose- f you really believe in reincarnation, and you really treat this world like its your own personal Hell, then don't you think you will only come back in a worse situation? Surely if reincarnation is real, then it should be used for finding your own enlightenment, not for being trapped in sadness?
i'm rather fond of the grapnuts and water comment, that and the idea that the bible was written by a bunch of drunks.
i do also believe that hell was made up by christians to scare their children "straight"... (i.e.... dont do that or youll go to hell)
I was going to say that but someone already it but Ill say it again anyway. Hell is a concept that cristians made up to scare little kiddies into doing what theyre told
I think that we make are own hell or we are in hell. Truthfuly i dont belive there is such a place.
LordVesperilio brings a good point about the ferryman. The Egyptians have a ferryman in the stories they passed down. This particular ferryman had his head turned around facing behind him so he can see anyone trying to cross the river for free. (the eyes in the back of the head saying came from this)
I still have to point out though that every way of live has there own story on this subject. There are many differences and very few simularities. Everyone has there own view of everything including Hell, Hades, The Abyss, The Underworld or whatever you call it. Like I said before Hel is a goddess and Hades is a God they are not places.
I don't believe in an actuall hell. I believe that mans misfortunes are his hell. Though I would love to see what it looked like if it did exist.
I believe in hell, and I think its a place of suffering. A place where you feel the most unimaginable pain whether it be physical, emotional or mental. A Place where there is no happiness. A place of no beauty what so ever.
I personally do not believe in the concept of Hell per Xian belief systems. I do not believe that the soul is confined in any sort of Heaven or Hell. Life is not about seeking rewards of golden halls nor fiery depths. If it was that simple, why would we bother?
because energy and matter can not be destroyed only changed, then there would have to be another plain once we live this one. In which case the idea of heaven and hell have merit. There would need to be, for there to be balance and order wouldn't there? This being the case, hell is a void, a lack of love or any other true emotion but anger and fear and depression on a level we can not concieve of.
Hell is different for everyone, now my personal hell is being locked in a room full of cannibus and no lighter or papers! to each their own
I don't believe in hell however I do believe there is an underworld. and everyone does spend time there before rising above sort of a punishment for their bad deeds but it is not for an eternity
I don't know where hell is, but there is one thing I am sure of, I don't want to go there to find out.
Well, i am athiest and personaly i think hell was made up as a thing to scare everyone twards something "better" such as god. not saying christians made hell up as a scare tactic, i just think that it is as made up, as well..as god and santa claus. just my personal beliefs but this place we call life is hell
I believe that there is someplace where we go because other wise there is nothing else to look forward to after this.
I am not a religiuos person, but i think the bible described it best.
"Hell on Earth"
We are living it.
HELL IS HERE ON EARTH! WHAT COULD BE WORSE THAN LIVING WITH THE PAIN AND SUFFERING GIVEN TO US BY BEING FORCED TO LIVE!
hell is real and you will go there if you have done the things that you need to do to go there. Hell changes in all of views. it is all of our temptations that we have fallen into and our fears.
Like i have said before
"once you fall into temptation, you will get out of damnation"
i am impressed by the posts in this thread
in order for there to be a place of said torture but only temporary you must beleive in reincarnation
Hell , first was invented by the christians . The name comes ffrom a city dump local to Jeruselem . Not called hell , but the name hell is a form of it ( I cannot remember what it was called ) . If you are christian check out some unpublished texts that were written at the same time as the bible was written for their are counter thoughts of what the longevity of hell would be and possibly not forever .
Personally I do not believe in hell . I believe it is another attempt for the church to try and control the population through fear . For fear and the reward of a great after life helped control the peons whos life sucked and had no hope in real life of a better future . What better way to control them , but to make them fear the wrath of god and to look forward to a great afterlife "if" they obeyed the church ?
Well"hell'" is a christian concept birthed from israel the term was first used a place of torment," Hades" if you will . No I do not believe in such a place cause according to the bible you will spend a an Eternity in hell with the likes of HITLER and Ted BUNDY so hell is just a Jewish concept not real.
I firmly believe we make our own hells, as far as going to one for being a Naughty child.. Nah.. I dont believe we end when we go to the next plane of existance..
First time I heard someone mention 'the jewish dump' concept. I'm impressed. The dump was mentioned in the bible by JC. It is where we get the idea of the rotting and smelling of bodies. It was a place where the bodies where dumped after being stoned.
The so called place that God created in the begining for the demons is also mentioned but is named different because it is different. Add Hades to the mix and you get Hell. Then add a fear based belief system and you get guilt.
Have some ice cream and enjoy life!
Nobody is going to hell.
In my opinion Hell is a state of mind. I think that a good interpretation of hell is being away from your God.
Oh i forgot i went on holiday to Majorca last year. That is what hell is like
It's a thought is all. I don't rely heavily on it, nor the heaven aspect. I just feel e 'regenerate' as it were with incarnations.
this cursed earth that we have been forced to walk... look around as this is hell. Doesnt matted where you think or know your gpoing when you die... it's deffinatly a step up from here
i personally think that we are here to all lear individual lessons but we come and go on this earth making this hell as we are doomed to spend eternity here.
hell is a place thought up by christans to scare young children
Hell is life it self. when you die you will finly be at peace.
I also think that life is hell, life is a test, things are thrown your way to see how you react, and i think that is what determines what you will become after you die. Whether its back to earth to try again...or heaven/hell/purgatory, i dont really know what i believe right now. I have a hard time grasping the thought that one being created the entire universe.
hell is being straped to a chair with your eyes taped open watching sweatin to the oldies with richard simmions for eternity
Hell is wanting and craveing somthing so badly, that each time your desire is just within your grasp, it is snatched away from you. But at the same time it makes your desire much greater, amd when you finaly achieve your goal it will be like heaven.
I truly believe that when a love is pure and true you are tested to your limits and if you can survive that hell, then your love will withstand all storms.
well i believe that this is hell but my boyfriend made a intresting comment y would u want to go to heaven you'd have to be good all the time who wants to do that and in hell u could do whatever u want who here wants to be good 24/7? not me! this is supposeing that there is a hell and heaven in the first place lol
Bill and Teds Bogus Journey...anyhow...there is no hell but hell here on earth...there is no forever burning pit of fire...no demons with pitchforks...hell is what you make of it
hell.... its just a world createed in side your head. plus i believe that we are already in hell.
I dont really believe in a place of hell. I have my own thoerys but if hell does excist we are already there and we did create it for this land usto be a utopia and now shant to excist.