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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
So, here's the latest versions of nonsense:
'Not that I know you, but I'll go give it a read...'
&
'ok thanks.....i was a little confused'
Not only are they nonsense, but they are being cut and pasted in as many threads as possible, sometimes more than once in a thread. The first one obviously says the threads haven't even been read and a post is already being made- WHY? And sometimes that comment is posted after the user has already made a post there. It can only be a post count thing- or a stupidity thing- either way, it is spamming the forum. It is annoying, and it makes for a useless scroll through.
I am trying to find these posts and the like and will be deleting them. The post count will go down- and anymore posts made after this announcement or the personal messages I have already sent to the members, will be forwarded on for further action. I do not care if it is your little brother or friend who got on your account and did all of this- if that is the case, then maybe you are not mature enough to have a Vampire Rave account anyway. Your password is supposed to be confidential.
This is belittling and disrespectful of the thought and effort put into serious relevant posts. ESPECIALLY here in this main forum.
YAY Images!
This is a major pain, in any type of thread. If it's a fun thread it kills the momentum, in a discussion it takes away from those trying to communicate!
You go girl :D
I agree. I havent been here that long; but I've been to other forums where such spamming is a problem and you are right. It is an annoyance.
Wow. A little harsh, but I'll agree that that's exactly what's called for here. You go girl!
Really I do think that it is very much annoying. They need to learn how to actually post on a forum and voice their own opinion instead of spamming everything. That's not the correct way to get post points.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
There's another one that keeps popping up:
'meow'
Out of nowhere, for nothing. To bother.
Before the rumormill starts once again about me and a power trip- realize you can't and DON'T know everything. 9 times out of 10 these are actual member complaints. People want to enjoy this forum. And they bring these issues to Dominars and Admins to clean it out. I welcome it. I surely don't always see all the threads.
I've never really noticed. I bet its a pain in the ass though...
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
It's not harsh. I am only deleting their posts. The Admins will take it from there if they refuse to listen. If they ignore the warnings, then that shows they really don't care anyway.
i haven't been here long enough to really get annoyed with posts, but i have seen a lot that are about this problem... so i guess i'll cheer you on like everyone else. lol... i'm such a follower sometimes
There were actually people meowing? Woah, I totally missed that one. And no, I don't think you're on a power trip at all; this is a serious problem and it does need dealt with.
Sometimes I read the thread and am impressed and I really can't of anything to reply to it, but I want to express that I found it a wonderful thread, and it was very informative. I think one has to do what one has to do, to stop the crap.
Thanks for keeping track.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
Right, people aren't reading threads at all- they are just opening threads and pasting one of these 'cookie cutter' (as Vulash calls them) posts just to either beat the system in getting a post count up, or piss people off. They'll notice slowly but surely their count going down as I am deleting them.
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immortalxkiss Viscount Sire (186) Posts: 572 Honor: 623 [ Give / Take ] |
I don't think you're on a power tirp at all. those posts that weren't relevent to anything, yet were showing up in every thread, were getting to be a little more then just annoying. anyway, it's not much, I know, but I support you guys one hundered percent.
It may be a little harsh, but I honestly think that for stuff like this, it is definatly needed. In order for some people to get it through their heads, that ruining a post isnt okay, then this is definatly a plus. Though there are times, when i cant think of a good response, so i'll jus say thx for the post, or interesting info, or thx for posting, its really informative. but i do try to come up with a decent response for the most part
you go girl.. i mean if your going to reply to a forum post be respestful and reply with a intelegent answer... thats all i have to say....
I totally agree, Take the time to think before you start typing, and if you don't have something intelligent to say.. Don't say anything.
Sorry. I don't know much about it, but it was a great read.
*meow*
heh...sorry. I think you're absolutely right, and the deletion of such nonsense is more than justified. I think it would be good if that kind of thing were regularly enforced, and a bannable offense. You know... if you spot someone doing it repeatedly, warn them. Thereafter they are banned if they defy the rule. We should look at this the same as people using software to boost their pageviews. They are not only manipulating the system for their own petty purposes, but they're wasting space in the forum that could be utilized by a member with something substantial to say.
It may seem harsh but for those who are here and don't listen to rules or are just extremely dense in the skull (no offense to anyone and if this does offend I am utterly sorry) that need that sort of harshness to get the point through there thick skull! This is a great thing that is happening!
Yea the one that really got me was not only a copy/paste on several threads, but was a long one. And someone else had written it heh. Doesn't get any worse then that.
I'm glad you're doing this so we can have some decent conversation in here without having to scroll through mindless post count whoring :)
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
Simply deleting posts isn't harsh at all. Just a way to keep the thread 'clean'. It'll only get harsh if they continue to do it- and it won't be done by me, because I don't have that kind of authority. I don't have any authority here- just a few capabilities, and a good team-working relationship with Administrators.
Harsh? pffffft ....not harsh, just something necessary and sorry that it has to be done in the first place....and we appreciate the work to clean up and keep the forums an intriguing and interesting place!
i think what you're doing is a good thing. it shows that you are taking the responsbility of your position seriously and thank you for that.
besides, squeaky clean threads are always easier to read anyways ;)
Much appreciated. especially for those of us who start a thread for the benefit and enjoyment of the site members here only to have it marred so disrespectfully. Not harsh at all.
I agree with this 100%. I am so tired of having to scroll through threads to find something half way intelligent in them. I know I don't reply to post that often. Simply because of the fact that I don't think in my opinion my response is considerate enough. But, I do read most of the posts.
i agree with you you made a point that needs to be heard
Images im glad someone is doing something about this, as far as power tripping goes, all that know u would know better.
Do what u have to do is all I can say.
I imagine that the wasted space can cause a major pain in the ass. Being that all the extra space is being wasted on nonsense that could be better filled with meaingful words.
you have my support.
I don't 'meow' I 'oink!' (LOL!)
But seriously, to those who don't have ANYTHING to do rather than just post 'GREAT!' 'THANKS A LOT" or some other nonsense stuff.
COME ON!!!
DOn't do that, nobody won the lottery. Read the topic first, if you don't have anything to say or CONTRIBUTE to it, then by all means.
CAN IT!
way to go images...... i dont understand why people have to do that its stupidity really on there parts . if i read something and cant think of something to say that hasnt already been said a million times i move on and dont post anything. i dont read alot in the forums anymore cause alot of people do post nonsence . and it is unnessary scrolling you do. as always images you rock girl.........
You're not on a power trip, Images...in fact, I welcome this. It means that I'll be able to enjoy the forums more than I have been recently.
OMG you are such a power tripping control freak....
( and for those who are to thick to catch it..that was sarcasm)
hehe you are great at you job....
there are places for silliness..that is the whole point to chatters cafe and various other cafe or bar threads in the sandbox...
take the silliness there...thats what those threads exist for..
imagesinwords, I'm glad that your doing watching for this & deleting the post! It needs to be done & someone has to do it! I appreciate you being willing to step up & take the effort to keep the forums clean! I don't think it's a power trip at all!
I haven't seen this myself but must admit that I would find it to be extremely annoying to find such a random unnecessary post(s) in an otherwise intelligent ongoing thread. ImagesInWords you are doing a good thing. I don't find it harsh in the least. I applaud you for keeping the forum an enjoyable place to visit by taking the time and effort to weed out the ignorant.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
A strong support system is always a good thing. This forum belongs to all of us. Some of us care more about it than others.
There are places in the forum where silliness is more accepted (but not this kind)- but up here (Threads about Vampires, Vampire Rave, or interesting parallel subjects) No, no, no. For some people- this is the only forum section they participate in. And for the outside looking in (non-VR members just looking to see what we are about here), what a poor reflection of our online community.
Thanks to all the members that care enough. That definitely includes those who bring such things to my attention trusting they will remain anonymous =)
I agree. There are some things that are very interesting in the forums and are being abused by the nonsense posts like that. I am glad I have a scroll wheel on my mouse - makes it quicker to get through them! Thank you Images...
I try to write posts that add to a conversation, but I usually only post on the "comment on the Avatar Above You" ones, so...:3
I must admit, I had a hard time understanding the random meowing. I am glad to see someone taking a strong action to improve the quality of the general forum; so many here have good things to say...someone mentioned weeding, yes that's exactly how I see it...and harsh? whatever; if people don't take this seriously this time, I think a public reprimand from an Admin. might help people understand "harsh". To all this applies too...grow up. Good job, Images, you work hard here and I appreciate it.
Thankyou for bringing this out,it's highly annoying!!!
Also there are some people who are double posting purposely....
Why certain people can't follow the phrase:
If you have nothing to say,don't say anything?
'I do not care if it is your little brother or friend who got on your account and did all of this'
Ha for shame, anyone using that excuse.
Didn't things used to be a lot more strict regarding posts?
I'm so tired of seeing
'I agree'
'LOL'
'I don't know'
I'll go look'
'Bump'
... As DNG said, nothing to say? Then shut the hell up!
the ony reason ppl do this is to waste others time in reading their nonsense and also because they are trying to level up, i think the forum monitors should delete th posts and take away the post point for all who do this.
I am glad you're doing this Images. The amount of useless posts, threads, etc.. is incredible. I've been on this site for over a year and see how very few forum threads I've posted to? My count is so low, it's as though I were a new member. This is because I don't post randomly, nor to just up my post stats. And very rarely is there anything worth posting to these days. Or if there is, it's so jacked up with all of the 'lol, i'll go look, i've rated you' etc.. or someone else in a more meaningful thread has already posted thoughts that concur with my own so therefore, there is no point other than to say 'I agree.' which is, in my opinion, pointless yet again.
Good luck with this cleaning process. I am sure it isn't easy and a lot of work will have to be done considering how many posts are like this.
Again, good job Images. :)
This posting imagesandwords is one of the things that might be moved into the VR manual or might get a point of registration agreement not to do those things.
sorry me or bless me, i am german.
As one of the person's who had their post copied and pasted in multiple areas. I thank you for the action.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
It is absolutely already in The VR Manual- silly or nonsensical posts are not allowed.
Most people who post such things never bother to read The Manual- and that would be their own fault. If you want to be a part of this community, you should get to know it.
Well said, and done Images.
It's not you who is in a power trip, it's the people that post just to level up that are.
I just noticed a bunch of...debatable (in terms of grey matter content) threads and attitude that displeased me, exactly because it shows no respect what so ever for the simple rules of this site.
Sometimes being harsh is the only way to make things right.
You have all my support.
i agrre with all of you here and note thats why i don't have alot of post cause i'am not going to put some thing in a forum just to get my score up and imagesin and bat make very good points to bad most people won't listen and that why a lost of forums are closed
i totally agree with what your doing. the amount of pointless topics really gets me though. but yeah getting back on trally good idea, if people are going to make up excuses to why they are sending random forum posts then they obviously arent mature enough to have an intelligent conversation with. good luck with it anyways.
Yikes!
I disappear for a few days to relax, and everything goes kafloofle!
Yes, I've certainly seen enough of those as well-- which is not the best way to get a level up, either.
Tweet- tweet! lol ;-) Sorry couldn't help it!
I hate when I'm reading a post full of great info and interesting responses and someone throws a stupid post in. Kudos Images- for being a member of the 'Post Patrol'.
i think its annoying to but what if theyre new and they dont know what to do maby ther just trying to make new friends and get nervous as did i maby someone should teach them what to do instead of ranting on them or not liking them i mean i no its annoying them but they have to learn as did i
Images, I am so with you on this one. Posts like this are so immature, I applaud you, girlfriend!
i have not been a member all that long . but have observed such as the post you refer to and totally think that they are meaningless. and shouldnt even post at all . i read the faq on such post and things and think they are only trying to gain levels and feel it is sad considering there is so much more this sight has to offer if they would only truely read the post and understand what that person is actually saying they would gain so much knowledge . thankyou images for trying to get your words out there......
i see someone doing it right now in the past like 5 threads
Count on me for this.
Us Admins have been trying to get rid of spamming and nonsensical threads/posts for such a long time it is ridiculous. People do not understand the concept of moderation, then they over do things and wonder why they get penalized or warned.
tsk tsk tsk.
Is in your power to make a difference when something like that comes to your atention, anyone who says you are just going on a powertrip should be put on their place.
Spamming any forum is rude and immature and it should be punished, I say more power to you and thank you for keeping annoying people out of my way.
Good job ;).
Thank you for bringing this up images. as most of you have allready said it is a very annoying thing. carefull studies and preparatin has gone into most of the posts, a job you can be really proud of, and to you who use such nonsense; it is like throwing shit in the face of the person who decides to share their knowlegde. how would you feel if your hard work got flooded with ridiculus nonsense worth shit? think about it please.
yes I agree stupid comments or one liners shouldn't be allowed...if you don't have anything to say go to a post you DO have something to say about.
I dissagree sometimes one word is enough. I think flamers and people who intend to harrass the forum should be penalized. I think its up to the forum masters to decide who is doing such and give them a talking to. If it doesnt work maybe a blinding from the forum would. I doubt that will be possible. So deletion works for me if its suitable. Off with their posts! Cries the queen hehehe get rid of those suckers.
As I don't leave messages of that sort, I'm really not worried about it. My count hasn't gone down at all.... :-)
As someone who likes to read the forums and participate, I appriate the dead wood being removed from the conversation.
*Inspects delete buttons...*
Check.
*browses list of targets*
Check.
*Searches forum*
Good to go!
I've been slack on this due to being offline, but I will be back and I am harsh, so post poorly at your peril.
>:)
Okay so...
I have waited a bit to actually post on this thread. I just kind of browsed forums and a few threads.
But, first let me get to my opinion. :)
I think this is a good idea. It will cut down on a lot of nonsense that happens to be running rampid through VR lately.
I think this should be done with double postings in the mascara threads that say:
"I will go check it out"
and then a post or two down:
" I just got back and your profile looks great"
This is really uncalled for and nonsense posting. Look at the profile/portfolio then commment. It cuts down on the lack of useless postings. It is quite obvious it is being done to up the posting score.
This would be an excellent thing to do as it would cut down on many posts that are just usless and clutter.
BUT......
It will not last long with people in general. As I have said earlier I browsed throught the forum and some psts. LOW and BEHOLD! People who have posted on this forum and doing the EXACT same thing this thread is talking about. They are posting just to post. Except they are using longer sentences and changing them around so it doesn't look like the generic posts of:
" That's INTERESTING! I can't wait to see more!"
tsk tsk tsk!
I have a feeling that if a stronger punishment is inforced for usless postings, VR will have a rather long suspended list. Which isn't such a bad thing in the end. It will teach people the benefits of following the rules and reading the FAQ.
And while they have to read the FAQ, it will also cut down on stupid questions for Question Crew.. hehe
Just a thought from my twisted mind.
:)
I saw this happen in a forum as I was looking through that was in the sandbox. (The one about the blue dude in our version of hangman.) There are at least four posts that were: *blink blink*
*twitch twitch* and with an extra blink blink and twitch twitch.
agreed it does seem disrespectful to the writer thanks for your effort
Solution: plain old english. we see it, we read it, we understand it, so y not use it correctly? i think people are lazy, or just dont care... oh well, if it REALLY makes them happy...
I still think that most people are only trying to get 10% the easiest way they can.
Are we talking about nonsense posts or what?
Shadowgirl
And yet, no matter how many times you continue to bitch about something like this more, nonsense posts continue to show up....life is like that online and offline, we all just have to learn to deal. Although, it's hard for me to deal with morons :P just kidding
It is hard to beleive that some members do not care about the content of this site. Please take a moment and read the forums...contribute or enjoy but dont sully the poster's attempt by putting something nonsensical to achieve status.
I agree with Mistress D...those kinds of posts never bothered me to read them, because it's something you have to expect from people, and people will either get better or they won't.
This seems to me to be a kind of witch-hunt; 'use your brain or be erased'. Harsh, funny, and in the end, really only gives us an illusion; that of looking around and saying 'hey, everyone here seems pretty intelligent and caring!'.
And it wouldn't be the truth.
It isn't about everyone being intelligent and caring, it's about people actually partaking of a discussion instead of simply copy/pasting one response to every active thread to raise a post count. Which is happening. So yes, the forums would be more fun for everyone actually using them for their purpose if much of that was eliminated. Also saying it happens anyway is a defeatest route - so does ranting, flaming, and other annoying internet habits, but less on some forums then others thanks to moderation. So while they'll never get rid of all of it - they will cut back on much of it and make it more enjoyable for most of us.
well im glad that some one is monitoring the posts now. i havent used the forum much for the last few months but im gonna start being more active
good luch with that
I agree with whats being said.Thats why I don't post a lot,because what I was going to say has been said,so many times and its just rhetorical,so I just don't say anything,but I believe sometimes one liners are appropriate.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
These one-liners have been explained in a manner that they are obviously quite different than what would be appropriate. I think it is clear that many who are responding to this are not really reading this whole thing, or even the whole first inital post I made.
Ironic ;)
(And that one liner WAS acceptable! It spoke mouthfulls, suck it :P)
i agree Images.
if u can't make a post that make's sinch then don't post.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
I am glad to see something being done about nonsense posts. It is annoying as can be to be reading an intelligent, thought-provoking post and the responses to it, then run across a bunch of stupid stuff. Ignorance I can deal with -- it is simply a lack of knowledge and improves as knowledge is gained. Stupidity, on the other hand, annoys me greatly. It is a deliberate refusal to learn, and thus it keeps repeating itself.
Go get 'em, Images! If I can read the FAQ and the Manual, so can they.
By the way, both are written in plain and simple English and are very easy to comprehend. All one has to do is just read what's written on the page. Just read the "black part", as someone once said about understanding a printed book.
I meow at people irl but its just a tool to get people to remember my name kat. when many people call me pat so i meow and they laugh and remember me. I think the random posts are going to be a reoccuring problem simply to gain levels in VR. i honestly debated about doing it myself but didn't think it would be appreciated and boom this thread pops up and proves my gut was right.
Well I have always been disapointed in this. It is sad to see people cheating and spaming the threads so they can gain a level. If you are going to post at least post something worth reading! It not only wastes time for those who want to post but it wastes the administrators and dominars time with having to deal with deleting your stuff!
I feel that threads are there for a reason. To educate the people and to try to help others about topics they don't now about. The ocassional I don't know...or I agree...or meow etc...is so not necessary. I think only thought out commments should be made. There are alot of adults on here trying to learn about different things and I think the stupid remarks such as ack or purrssss taks teh refletions from that. But that is just my opinion
and sorry about all my spelling. I am on meds but I truly assure you I can spell sooo good and make good sentence structurs lol
Vulash - your dead on man. It's the continuity of debate or conversation. I've seen posts that ask a question that is actually answered in the post above theirs. If they'd bothered to read through or even 'scan' the thread, they may actually be able to contribute...instead, the thread takes on a random and nonlinear form of posts like cards tacked to a corkboard...nothing acknowledging or relating to previous posts.
A brief mention of something in the main post and that's it...5 - 10 of those can really kill the path of a thread as it just pushes intelligent content further in between nonsense that must be vetted.
Images - The best thing you mentioned was that the post count will go down if their removed. I wasn't aware of that and I'm glad to see that the effect on levels or post counts isn't some permanent thing that can't be reversed. Perhaps if that is more highlighted among the boards, people will realize that their status could shift dramatically lower if they get caught in that type of 'spamming'.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
Not only will their post count go down- but it could possibly result in suspension.
There are FAR too many valued VR members that hardly come here to the Forum anymore because of the lack of respect and substance by SO many.
Trust we are starting a grassroots movement to shut that crap down. It's not only about stopping flaming and making sure threads are in appropriate sections- this kind of thing nearly bothers me more. Find me online if you see such nonsense.
I do not think Heidi is on a power trip. I cam relate to what she is talking about. Sometimes a topic even goes completely off the topic at hand. I am here to learn and the last thing I wana read in a knowledge column is someone going MEOQ etc,,,,
It is funny. I was gone for the last six months and I am back and starting over.
I see somethings here at VR will NEVER change.
imagine i want to be like you whem i grow up lol lol you tell them ...
I've seen this and I havent been around that long..it is annoying to say the least but meowing?? wow ok I say wow from time to time because something totally staggers me but meow....
Images, you do have a daunting task ahead of you. I do hope the people that are doing this actually take the time to read this and comply with your request. It makes the hard work everyone puts in look frivilous.
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
It's the unfortunate task of all the Dominars and Admins. I just merely made the post :)
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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
I also want to add- nonsense posts can also come in the shape of a novel-sized post. Going way off into left-field can be even more irritating.
it is a great idea, and it really needed to be done.
otherwise the forum's get full of annoying posts making them very long, but when a forum post is long WITHOUT these annoying little posts it is alot more enjoyable to read.
so thank you!
I am totally in agreement with you Images~ I am fairly new here ye, I have gone to forums where I feel I have an opinion to and as I stroll down reading I will come across things like~~ I DON"T KNOW ABOUT BUT~~~~ or one line remarks ~~ OK, if you DO NOT KNOW~~ then DO NOT BOTHER POSTING~~ If you have no input or intelligent opinon Do Not Post~~~ CONGRATS~~ TO YOU GIRL~ YOU really rock!!~~~
I agree people shouldnt spam shit its imature way to be people need to stop it and get a move on ro not be here.
if your gona post something make it worth reading or i wont even go n that post, eh
i belive in posts which give a contribution to the topic but that are not too long either.. when i see too long posts i tend to just scum off it... maybe because im lazy... if i dont hav eany thing useful to say about the topic, i simply wont post..