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As I have walked the path of an empath I have learned much since the beginning. One thing that continues to reoccure is the fact that empaths are hated. I have discovered lately that vampires especially hate them. Now, as an open empath this greatly depresses me. I know that some of the natural born empaths abuse their gifts instead of helping only when asked as I do. I find it a tragedy that they can't get along. Has anyone heard of something like this?
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Empaths by nature absorb emotion, I for one do not like others feeling what I feel.
This is not to say I hate empaths. I my self have very strong empathic abilities.
The issue is simply a lack of understanding.



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Well,
I guess i shall input on this.. I belive everyone is empath.. Anyone can feel someoens feelings and act on them.. It is a matter of sense.. some white eople hate black people.. some asians hate white people.. People ate what is different.. As a empath you should just understand that you are no better then anyone else( not saying you think that) just as i am no better.Never hold back what you are.. You are what you are and nothing that you would ever be..Empaths hold a special way of useing there ability.. your intune with it.. everyone can run.. but some are better.Also i belive empath is just as the same as physic vamps. all energy.. Also.. off the subject.. try nature.. try useing your skills on your surroundings and it shall help you grow even stronger in your ways..



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21:35:34 Sep 20 2006
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Thats actually a good way of putting it. Like I mentioned previously though, many know how to stop invading others privacy. But thats just my out look on it for now..



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I wouldn't say that I hate empaths. I have a very close friend that has great empathic abilities, so obviously I don't hate them.

My only real problem with empaths is, in fact, the invasion of privacy. Sometimes, I'd like to be let alone with my feelings. Sometimes, I'd like to be able to keep my feelings to myself and go to someone (to talk or what not) whenever I feel I'm ready. Some empaths (not saying all) don't seem to realize that not everyone is as open about feelings as everyone else.



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I would like to know where you got your information about the hatred of Empaths. The only place I have seen this scenario is in works of fiction.



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lol, Strigocia...good question...



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Thank you, RIP. I am what I am (I despise out-right saying it), and I am Empathic. Sorry to say, but we are all Empathic. The moment you go "Awww," due to some goings on, you have wittnessed your own empathic side.



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this could give you something good also...

Talk to a person who does understand you 100%...its hard enough to find one who will at 90%...

Empathy as nothing to do with hate or something like it...

its just 2 souls deeply connected...



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This is true in many ways.. But like billy joel once said.. One can taste anothers feelings by look alone.What i think he was saying is that when soemone is down and about or whatever you would call it they set off a vibe that most can't help but to touch,,, That is why i love going to the mall. I am a sanguine vamp but i love to touch everyones vibes as they walk by..



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The information that I have gathered has come from many sources. The friends that I often interact with have also mentioned the whole invasion of privacy thing. I honestly believe that if you leave a person to come around on their own that eventually they will. I let people come to me. I dont barge in and say "Hey, your boyfriend isn't cheating on you but you should watch out for so and so" I mean its just not my place..But anyway to get back to my main point the reason they seemed to be hated is it takes away the whole mystery when one is wondering about how another is thinking or feeling..thats all I can say for now I guess..



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I think you are mistaking an empathic person with a telepathic person. It is a telepath that can see into a persons mind like this, and dig out bits of informaiton about them.



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lol...i thought the same thing...

The only kinds of persons capable of "read" your thoughts, are the thelepatic ones...

Empathic people can "feel" what u "feel"...



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I have to say I have never heard of anyone hating empaths. I know that being around them are uncomfortable for some that have a lot of emotional issues. as empaths seems to feel everythingf they do.

telepaths, I have never met one and have not basis for opinion.

but my girlfriend is a very strong empath, as is all of her friends, and they are held dear by all that know them.



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01:03:34 Sep 21 2006
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Strigocia, it also depends on WHO the empathic person knows. As Xzavier (I hope I spelt that right) many people do not like the idea that another person knows or can sense their emotions.

While I agree that all of us have this ability, not everyone taps into it to the same degree. In some professions, it is actually a benefit to be an empath, such as healing arts: doctors, nurses, etc.

This does not mean that everyone like them or uses it. Ever talk to surgeons? Some of the most un-empathic people I’ve met, again not all- but there is something about cutting into people’s flesh that I suppose it is something they do not need to perform a good job.

So the question then becomes, how is a person using their ability that others are uncomfortable to the extent they don’t like the person? Or is the person empathic but just a tard… not everyone will get a long, and not everyone likes everyone. It’s part of life and we all have to deal with it, regardless if vampiric or just plain human.



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I agree with Strigocia that we are all empaths to some extent. Some, obviously are more-so than others. I think I'm at the lower end. I can be a bit nosy about how people are feeling but i don't think i have a gift for it.



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well I know that my girlfriend has a strong ability. but she has no control.

it might not be that the empath is being intrusive.
as it might be that they have a strong gift with no control and no one in their sphere of friends and family to teach to control it.



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I know many Empaths and I happen to be a vampire... actually I am married to an Empath and two of my best friends are Empaths so I can hardly be said to hate them lol. Often they can help me deal with things that I have not been able to deal with so I like them.



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Liebe,

I am still going on the notion that the original poster is using the wrong term. However, when comes to a persons unwanted probing of their emotions, that is solved quite simply. Don't go out, or do not feel those emotions at all. I use to be an addict to emotion, now I can block them out. If you are walking around, willy-nilly, with your heart on your sleeve, you have no say in who picks up on that. Trying to understand why someone would down right hate someone for reading a cry for attention is beyond my minds capability to process common sense.



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03:02:55 Sep 21 2006
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From what you just said you are talking about sympathy, not empathy.

Sympathy is much more detached than empathy. Empathy means feeling the person’s pain as your own. Sympathy is separate from taking it on yourself.. So you can sympathize without attaching yourself to the other person’s emotion. I think that is where the miscommunication lies in the definition of terms.



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Strigocia, I have to agree with you last statement.

I just don't seem to be able to understand this hatred, that the poster is talking of.



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No, I spoke of empathy. I used the words probing, sensing, and picking up. I never said hugging, caring, or things such as this. I have a grasp on what I am talking about.



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03:18:55 Sep 21 2006
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Fair enough, most people mistake them and in reading your post again – I can see where you thought your view was clearly stated- I did not read it as such.

I have to say that I have encountered the posters response. Sometimes people want you to be able to use your empathy to sympathize, but often they do not want you to know more. Rightly so.

Now as you stated in the earlier post- if it is a cry for help- then it usually is welcomed as you stated. Think about it, emotions are not always pleasant. What if someone has a strong dislike for you, or is trying to hide a relationship they started with another person? An empath can usually tell, and typically is not liked for seeing the situation for what it is.

That being said.. I think that many people mistake emapths with those that merely watch and subconsciously read other people's body language very well.

Again, I think all of these are talents that any person can train themselves to do. This does not change that most people do not like to be called on their "shit". If someone watches well enough and is sensitive enough to others, then it becomes difficult to "hide". This has been my personal experience, and is what I interpreted the original post to be about.



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I know what you mean because I am a natural born empath and there are quite a few people who hate the fact that I know what they are feeling. I always try to use My ability to help as best I can and still I get the anger. Its something that I have kinda grown used to and I have learn to better control how much I express what the other people are feeling.



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I have a few empathic abilities and I have found that most people well for lack of a better word hate the thought of people being able to feel what they feel......although these abilities sometimes come in handy when you have a friend in need.......



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it all depends on how you use your abilities if your there for someone when its needed and onlythen, than i doubt youll be hated



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people who have a hatred or anger or fear of empaths are just silly.

if you have a problem with empaths then you need to get your emotions under control and suck it up.

I believe it was said before.



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Well I am glad that I have gotten such feedback. I have come to see that perhaps it is not wise to generalize. But those that I have come i contact with have all said they have a buring passion for avoiding empaths. I, have also had mixed reactions as far as being wanted and such. But for now I have come to the conclusion that I am not alone and everyone has their own feelings about empathy. As for myself I haven't learned to control it..Fights are that much worse. Anyway, for me this an ongoing learning expirence.



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lol, but...why its an invasion of privacy?

I mean...everyone likes to have have someone around to help them...why hate it?



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They hate it for the simple reason that its like the feelings aren't their own anymore..But at the same time I wouldn't mind having an empath for a friend because then I wouldn't always have to say what I felt..To me saying what I am feeling for some reason is a bigger battle then it should be..Thats how I see it for the moment. IF I could give it up I think I would..



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yes, i have but only once before. the problem is even though vampires believe different things then normal people do it dosen't mean that they aren't prowded to their own jealousy or false judgement of an other creature. they empath suffered great being the only one there that was and she killed herself. though all you can really do is get people to learn to ither live with it or teach them about it before its to later.



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That's true. Everyone is entitled to thier misconceptions. I Still wish I could rid myself of the gift. It tends to be a bit annoying and maybe if I lost it I would want it back but for now I dont think so..



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Just as a hypothetical...

Did you ever think that empaths dislike those that can not control what they project? I think the whole love/hate thing is a two way street. I wish more people would walk around with better defenses up. You would think if they were in such a weakened state they would stay home, or somthing.



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that is a very good point. Most people walk around with there emotions all up in the air, for empaths this has to suck. I know that all my friends that are empathic they have enouugh on thier plates handling thier own emotions, and do not need the added bonus of someone else's because they have no emtional control.

I would not wish to not have a gift as it was given to yoou for a reason. but there shouls be way to control to control it so that you do not have to deal with it unles you want to.

I would love to hear of a way to gain control, as I mention earlier in the thread my girlfriend is very empathic and she has no one to teach her how to control her gift.



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I am also and empath, I feel what others feel due to lack of experience, but then again, its hard to learn to control it when you dont let yourself feel for 13 years. So as long as you dont push others about what they feel, I dont know why people have a problem with empaths.



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hmmm. . . .i've never heard of this before but i'm also an empath and i've never heard of anyone hateing empaths and personally to me it doesn't make sense why they should. Just because someone can read other peoples emotions doesn't mean anything really in my book but maybe that's just because i've been living with it my whole life and i've never met anyone who disliked me just because of my empathic abilites. . . . hmm i will have to look into this a little bit more thank you



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I have to agree with cyrus... i believe that everyone has empath abilities like mothers know when something is wrong with their child. just some dont realize their abilities and some dont have them strong. I do understand the hatred. no one likes people to know how they're feeling without them telling the person. I myself am an empath but i dont ever tell the person i am feeling them... i ask them what's wrong until they confide in me then help them so i've never personally felt the hatred.

i dont think that vampyres hate them anymore than anyone else. I am also a vampyre and know both spectrums. People in general dont like others knowing how they feel without them confiding in them first.



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i myself do not see how any vampires could detest empaths as many vampires i know including myself are empaths as well



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As an addendum, I love to walk around inundating empaths with my emotions, like psychological warfare. Suck it up, empaths. ;) Ha Ha! I don't hate or fear those that find empathy to be their only gift. They supply me with endless fun.



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I must say, I have not met anyone who "hates" empaths, non-empathic ppl tend to get nervous b/c they do not understand. That has been my experience at least.


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Personally, I don't really like being around empaths for the fact that I can't hide what I'm feeling at the time. This would be due to the fact that I am a very strong broadcaster, so go figure. I don't want, or like anyone else feeling what I am feeling, because then they may try to help me get over it, or try to get me to say what's wrong. This is due to the fact that I am a very closed person.



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Basically I have gotten a general idea from the people whom have answered my post. Indeed I am happy that there are more empaths then I previously thought. I have often felt alone with this Gift/Curse. Perhaps if I learned to control it I wouldn't feel so bad about being one. I hate it more then just a bit. And as for being a closed person thats one of the highest reasons for not being around an empath. I am open about it because I am not ashamed of being one, just dont like it personally.



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I was born an empath. From a young age I felt things that i didnt understand. that I couldnt control. If someone had a black cloud over theyre heads, I could see it, I could tell what they were feeling and I knew the degree of which feeling theyre felt.
Mos tpeople can tell if someone is happy or sad or angry or so on and so on. But I, would feel the soul felt sorrow or anger, and so on. I ultimately felt what they felt, and didnt feel sympahy, but the same feeling they felt.

it wasnt until 6th grade that I knew why I was doing what I was doing.I mean, I was always the outkast kid, I was quiet and observant. I liked watching people live theyre lives. I was a book worm amoung sorts and didnt play sports very well at all.

by 10th grade I was full a flegde feeler. and I didnt want it, it takes so much out of you. because of my empathic abilities, I had written stories, poems, songs and drawn what I could feel throught others. and by the end of 10th grade I chose to bound this ability, I meditated and practised each day, not feeling, not knowing, slowly more and more I felt less, saw less, and then like I didnt even notice, it was gone.

I dont think that Empaths are a bad thing, they may help yourself to understand exactly what you feel althought sto some it is an invasion of person. vampires dont like empaths because empath can feel what they feel without trying, and vampires like to keep theyre mysteriousness.



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I am a very empathetic person, but I wouldn't consider myself an "empath". I've never heard of anyone "hating" empaths. But I think sometimes people can be too nosy trying to figure out what's wrong with you when you really don't want to talk about it to anyone.



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If I could find a way to bind it I would. I really could live without it and not think twice.



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everyone should be able to turn on and off they gifts at will i think, but usually it dosen't work that way, but to stay stronge in what you have is the true gift.



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It is an amazing gift. I would hope that for those that have it they are able to learn to control it.
LestatConcubine:
I would not wish to be without your gift. It is part of who you are. The people who really care about you, care about all of you, dear.



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That is very true. But as long as I dont know how to control this so called gift then it tortures me. Its just hard to explain to people without freaking them out. Oh well cant win them all right?



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Perhaps,fear is being confused with hatred.
Most people choose to keep their invisible walls around themselves,not wanting to reveal their feelings,fearing what others will think or feel about them if their "selves" were revealed.
Somebody who can breach that wall,or who does so unintensiomally,is a threat to the "hidden person's" security.
We try to conceal ourselves due to fear, not hatred.



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People fear what they dont understand..



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That quote sounds familiar. lol. As for binding your empatic ability...don't you dare. Learn to use it and when to turn it off. This ability is seen throughout the nursing and social worker field. These people are wonderful people and we need more of them. An empath is a very caring person. But they do need to learn to take care of themselves. Take a break, have a massage. treat yourself out. But never hide from yourself.

Free Billyman advice. ;)



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I dont find it pleasureable to be an empath, for alot of the reasons listed above. I find the best way to handle being one, is to only ask my friends to talk to me about what is bothering them. As for being a closed person, I have tips for those who want to block empaths... I find it necessary to know how, considering that I am a very closed person, (currently trying not to be soo closed), but most of my friends are empaths so if I dont want them knowing how I feel, I found a way to ...hide... what I am feeling sucessfully. If you want the tips, feel free to message me and I will tell you.



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BillyTheJust:

I fully concur with you. Empaths are some of the most truly caring individuals. LestatConcubine, I think that even without the control you feel you need, you still have your own strength of will. That, my dear will carry you very far, if you use it wisely.
Know that there are those who do not hate or fear you. But think that you are a special person, and applaud your fortitude in the experiences you have had.



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nope..i dont like it one bit,,,all you can do is work on your sheildings.



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Thank you for the inspiring words. It is true that I do have a knack for people and working in the nursing or psychology feild. But with that said I would much rather work with animals. I feel more intune with them. Weird I know. Maybe perhaps I shall endevor to work with my empathy rather then binding it. It does have its perks. Then again, its a rough road that I am not sure I can pave. With enough will it is possible. That means the quest lies with me and no one else. A road I must travel alone for the most part in the sense that it is my gift and mine to control. Thanks again everyone.



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I don't think people hate empaths as such i think they don't like the fact that other can feel them. I am an empathic and i have not learned how to control it yet so i pic up on most people around me. I would not give up the gift i have, but i would love to be able to control it better. I also know there are people who can block empaths as my girlfriend blocks me all the time. I think some people fear empath as they don't truly know about them.



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I dont hate empaths at all... i think everyone if they have an ability should use it wisely and if they dont then they deserve to be disliked...



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in my personal experience it can realy suck being an impath but i'v never met any one that hates impaths. my main problem is that i havnt yes to learn to close my self off from reading others emotions



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in my personal experience it can realy suck being an impath but i'v never met any one that hates impaths. my main problem is that i havnt yes to learn to close my self off from reading others emotions



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with anything and everything dealling with any person could freak out those who don't understand. thats why there were the salem witch trials and even the thing with the twin towers.



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True that what people do not understand they fear and what they fear the hate and what they hate they destroy.

In this day and age though it is hard to find fear or hate to that degree outside of the true religious zealot.

and fo rthose can't control there are ways to block it, if someone was really that bothered by it, they could easily learn.

anyone who dislikes you because of a gift you have tell them to bugger off!

Be who you are, and that in and of itself will allot you much peace.



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I think I have learned quite a bit from my fellow vr members. Thanks so much for the advice and opinions that I have recieved. I have decided to post-pone my binding until I have at least given control one more time. Thats the least I can give myself.



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Reading this thread has been an interesting challenge. I wish I had found it a bit earlier but alas.....here are my two cents.

Billythe Just--- I am a social worker and thus thank you for your kind comments.

I will tell you that we teach social workers to work with empathy NOT sympathy when dealing with others. Most clients want to be understood rather than pitied is the rationale behind this.

I have always seemd to be a magnet for people who needed to chat about troubles....even from strangers ....I didn't realize until lately that I may have actually been pulling them towards me with some sort of energy thing. Mostly because when people would tell me things I would be like "WTF are you telling me for?????" at least in my head---I was always polite to the person. Over the years, I have learned to control the energy/empathic drawing.....whatever you want to call it.

I made sure I had things that took my mind completely away.....fantasy books, movies, RPG, friends, meditation, and a conscious effort to NOT be "on". I would sometimes meditate on there being a barrier between my mind and the world.

Now, I am able to use my abilities in my counseling with abused children and adults without getting the burn out from being ON all the time because I can shut it down during play time. I can not imagine doing anything else....I love my work but it does take personal work to develop the control....as it does with most talents.

Ok......maybe it was a whole nickel instead of just two cents.....but there it is.



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To put it simply I agree with Xzavier, emotion for many is a very personal thing, obviously. And some feel that others do not have a right to intrude somewhere where they were not invited. Now as for vampires hating/disliking empaths more than anyone else, Im not sure why that is or if thats true.



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Well I have nothing against empaths..I know some and they are pretty good ppl, but they respect me and I lke them to leave my emotions be...other than that I have absolutely no problem with them..I just like my privacy like anybody



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i have a few friends who are empaths we get along great .... although i have been told by them on more than one occasion if they think something is wrong and try to "sense what im feeling " ( there words not mine) they get headaches



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yeah.i 've heard before
that's ok if re empathy person. u can control ur self esteem n behavior



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lestatsconcubine: I would hope that you wouldn't wish for yourself to be without your gift. It is who you are and it is a very special part of what makes you.



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truthfully I do not know any empaths....so I would have to meet one to know if any do abuse their powers



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I have had the opposite affect on people. Being and empath, I often find that complete strangers and recent aquintences are attracted to starting conversations with me, and start telling me their deepest feelings immediatly. Maybe it's because they sense the "cat is already out of the bag", and I find that most people like to have someone to share those feeling with. I never intrude on others, I wait for them to come to me if they wish.



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This thread is the first time I have even heard of others hating or dislike empaths. for the most part most of the empaths tha tI know are very welcomed and loved by all those around them.



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I have heard of this and can say that Enpaths are not looked apon nicely by others as well....Some just don't like their feelings felt by others.



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I go back to what I said earlier. If people have a problem with empaths, they need to stop wearing their emotions on their short sleeves.

It is a gift that they have been given. I don't anyone sat around and asked to feel what others do.

If ppl don't want emapths digging into their emotions they need to learn to control their emotions better.



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I have to agree with some of you. Especially since I have had people get angry with me and even hate me, just because they could tell that I was an empath. This is most recent. My gift is my curse, not everyone will like me for it. And well, I don't blame them, I don't push others, to make them do anything, or to even ask if they want or need my help. But I do find, that alot of the people that are drawn to me, end up needing my help, my gift/curse. I don't mind it, ok, so off and on I do. Only because well, I would like to have a normal conversation once in a while. But hey, its my gift and I know how to use it. So... I do.



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I do not understand why ppl are have a problem. I think that emapthy is a gift. and should be used as such and thought of as such.



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As proven time and again, empaths have much ability but also allow themselves to be open to that of someone also violating their mind, of course which can be done without any permissions.... Empathy is a dangerous game and could be the demise in a tatical situation. -- slave devlin



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People have many different views and indeed I believe that empathy is to be treated differently ..It is my gift and my curse. I sound like spiderman..



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I have known a very sensitive empath for quite sometime and quite recnelty she could cope with it but now she's overwhelmed with other people 's emotions



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Lestatconcubine, in the end it is your gift/curse, however you want to look at it.

You will have to deal with it the best way you can. Even though right now you dislike your empathic ability , it might come in handy some where down the path of your life.



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I am an empath and vampire, and i dabble in a bit of psychology, so I kind of understand the sentiments. Vampires and humans, and all other biengs are intrinsically connected through the collective subconcious, therefore, unbeknowns to the vampire and Usually, the empath as well, there is a window to not only the feelings, but also the memories. Many vampires have set up an unconcious shield against such meddling, therefore, the subconcious reflects a deep desire to not be seen, and the empath takes the shield energy as hostile in nature, where it is truly meant only as a defense, but, since the best defense is a good offense, i guess it all works out in the end.



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I personaly dont hate all empaths. As a PSI Vampire I understand them. I only hate those who perposly go into another persons mind. I knew this guy that used his empathic powers to almost rape a girl and its hard to proove something like that. I of course am not saying i think all empaths do so. I consider myself kindred with them because of the symilar enventure we both go through.



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I have to agree with everyone here that I don't believe that vampires hate empaths. I'm only slightly empathic myself, so I have no idea what it must be like for a really strong empath, but I can say that it must be a terrible thing to have to deal with another person's emotional issues.

I've never been around any strong empaths that I know of, but I have to say that I would certainly feel sorry for them to have to deal with my emotions -- an artist's temperament is never easy for a normal person deal with, let alone someone who can really "feel" it.



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I dont hate empaths. i have empathic skills myself, but i dont think its right when they abuse their powers...the feelings of a person are meant to be felt by that person and that person alone, unless otherwise stated.



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I for one am an empath/telepath (depends on who and the situation) and a vampire, I find that when I'm not blocking like an SOB, i tend to pry into peoples thoughts and feelings, and I often get people telling me to sod off out of thier heads its none of my busniess. Even though it was a complete accident.

My point being, is that people (empaths and telepaths) who aren't taught near enough from the start how to block it off from people, do just unintentially 'pry' into peoples feelings, and its mostly misunderstanding from the person whose feelings they are, that the amniosity comes from. Although it doesn't necessarily mean that, that person hates you. they just quite often get the wrong end of the stick, and would rather have a snap, then ask you to 'stop', 'put your sheilds up' etc etc etc

Either way I've never taken it personally. And never will, its a learning curve everyone has to go through when they have a gift such as emapthy.

If you would like any advice on blocking techniques, please feel free to send me a message :)



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I'll be quite simple about this. I don't know anyone that hates empaths like that. And beign a Psi Vamp and an Empath, I would have to hate myself. Most empaths cant help it.



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The thing I dislike most about Empaths is that they will get done saying how much they dislike Psychic Vampires, then they will 'probe' me, for lack of a better term, and suddenly act in a cold manner towards me.

I can tell when they do it, and I can usually pinpoint them before they can spot me (or at least I believe I can).

However, I guess it is fine since I have a very strong personality that they may take offense to anyhow, so being friends with someone as headstrong as I am, combine that with the tolerance towards me being a Psychic Vampire, and I guess we have someone who is worth being my friend.

I do not dislike nor hate Empaths. I just dislike their tendancy to judge based on what they feel alone.



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I find that empaths can get along although they will just know what eachother are feeling at all times, unless they shield themselves from the other empath



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I'm not sure about this at all......because knowing how someone else is feeling at all times can make any relationship tricky,,,and I like to hide my emotions



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I've never heard of Vampires hating Empaths. But the only reason I can see why someone would hate an Empath is because they do not want their emotions to be noticed. Especially if they were feeling particularly weak.



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I am an empath. I am overly conscious of others distress or pain, I think that is why I made such a good nurse. But I burned out on it. The emotional toll is extreme. I am "like a sponge" and it batters me and weakens me...it isn't something I have learned to control. Things have even been so overwhleming I have gone into Panic Attacks. I love being able to help people in this way, to understand their pain, feel it with them, know what to say or do to make them feel better...but it doesn't always feel like a gift, sometimes it is a curse. Does anyone agree with me?



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may i chime in a bit on the subject.

I knew i was empathic but never realized the scope or depth of it until i invited Calisto (from VR) to be my house guest.

He's been with me since July 22nd and he is empathic and so am I. Together, we have been depressed but have also taken on each others depression, unwillingly of course.

We have each suffer more together as a result. He is going back to Greece next Wednesday and we both look forward to some relief from the experience.

Not to say that we wont miss each other very much but it can be overwhelming to be depressed and then take on anothers feelings on top of that.

My empathic abilities have caused problems my entire life, oh how i wish i could shut them off sometimes.



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As Elemental posted- she is a social worker/ LSW. While I love how she can tell what I am feeling, I also see the pain she deals with at work.

I have always believed she is unable to block all of the feelings she deals with, leaving herself open to stress and hurting of those she helps.



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Sometimes,... an empathetic intervention is needed.
...
At other times, its use is unnecesarry.

I'm thinking the reason why vampires or anyone else would hate empaths is because of the bad stereotype of its unnecessary use.
... Or the vampyre is just compensating for something.



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well i think knowing everybody mood all the time could get u in trouble



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It is interesting how time develops a particular theory. I have come to note that while my misconeption of being hated by vampires is mostly false save for the few that actually do, it is mostly how an empath choses to live that is the problem. I personally would not mind being able to turn it off/on like a switch but its not that simple..at the same time I have learned when it is a good time to use and when it is not. Also, don't feel what you really dont want or need to. this leads to personal anguish..



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I can see why some people might not like empaths because they feel like their privacy is being invaded



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i know a few ppl that are empaths the only thing i have them do is stay out of my emotions



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Being an empath my self I understand that we can close off the "flow" of emotions but is is not always that easy. Especaly when the empath is close to some one feeling a really stong eomtion like hate or fear. Or in some casses when the person is strong them selves.



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