In wonderment I would like the opinions of the people at vr.
What makes a vampire book good?
Sahahria Edit: Please take time with forming questions you pose as to not give confusion in the discussion.
If you can captivate your reader's intrest and keep it up throughout the book. And always have a good ending.
i thinkthere good when the authore make the vampire chareters good......if the charecters arnt appealing to your imagenation then i think the whole book would be lost.........
To be more specific -- as a writer, I find characters that can captivate your reader and evoke some emotion; hate or otherwise is a good anchor. From there, be weary of contradictions in your newly created "people". Also, it never hurts to have side notes for the next chapter, etc...you never know where an initial idea can take you...
Twilight by Stephen Myers was mentioned in the next thread. It sounds wonderful. Check out the comments there if you like.
A new perspective or idea. Although the basics that were mention have to be included to make a good story many times the vampire world has been beaten to death with your grandmother's club foot.
I enjoy a bit of humor in with my darkness and writers that are creative, even if their new ideas seem a little off the wall.
No matter if any or all parts of the book are fictional, I find it to be a little more captivating to the readers if you do your research and include elements of truth, both from past and present, and as mentioned before, leave side notes because there is no way of knowing where an idea will take you or what it will tie back into until its too late.
Making a charactor credible is always a good thing whether you like the charactor or hate it as long as the story even the most fantastic story is at some point believable that is what I look for in good vampire fiction
I like book that make you think, and have some super natural essence about it.
when it catches you attention right way keep you on th eedge all along and never stop to move and amaze, I hate books who has like 50 pages before something actually happen then another 50 and os on, I like it when you go and see the movement of the book and itsnot a dead water but a constent river, dont need to be a wild one just one that moves.
I like realistic characters (you can believe they exist) and a really gripping story line. I have to be interested, make sure I want to read the next chapter and not just toss it to the side and forget the book is there.
you have to check out anything written by kelly armstrong she has an interesting notion about vampires
I have to admit that I'm a bit of a vampire book whore. (;oP) If a book contains vampire characters, I HAVE to have it in my collection. Now, having said that, let me clarify a couple of things.
(1)Just because I have a lot of vampire books and have READ a lot of vampire books, that is not to say that I've equally enjoyed each and every one of them. Some have enthralled me from the very first paragraph all the way up to the fucked up end. Others, well...are still in the process of being read? lol. (That's just my way of saying that I lost interest and kind of pushed the book to the side for a "while".)
(2) I'm probably, as weird as I am, relatively typical when it comes to the elements that I enjoy when reading, particularly when reading stories with a vampire theme. I'll explain...
I love to be entertained, regardless of the method(s) used. If the book is of an action type, then I want to see lots of action. If it's a suspense/thriller/horror...by cracky, it had better make me put it down and hide under my covers! I just want what the book (or the book's genre) promises! Is that too much to ask?
With vamps in particular, here are the things that I HAVE to have in the stories:
a) The hero/heroine has to be someone to which I can relate. If they're so glamorfied that I don't care to relate to them, then the book has already lost me. I'm not saying they have to be regular people. I'm not saying I have to be like them. All I'm saying is that the character has to be someone into whose position I can AND want to insert myself. Follow? Mkay...
b) I love to see an element of mystery/surprise. If I've got the entire plot and everything figured out in the first couple of chapters, eh...yeah, it goes into the "pile".
c) Of course, I'd be lying to you and to myself if I didn't include this. I ADORE books whose vampire characters are portrayed in the romantic light. Ok, I'm not saying supernatural Harlequins here, people. I just mean that the sensual allure of the vampire is highlighted...that sleek sensuality of which Xzavier spoke.
d) If it's a book in a series, it has to have a great set of supporting characters and an EXCELLENT, EARTH-SHATTERING, HELLACIOUS ending to keep me coming back for more and bigger doses.
That concludes this episode of Christi le Critique. ;oP
Great opinions and point of views so far so good. Its all been a great help so far and I thank you all greatly for your imput.
Lets keep it goin.
*smiles*
Who knows maybe not to long from now youill be able to pick a copy up and think that its not just my ideas but also the imput from you guys as well.
heh im sure ill put that into my acknowledgements.
Good hunting to you all.
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I believe the characters make the book. You have to have a captivating character. One that keeps your interest. The second important thing would have to be a good plot.
Characters that are appealing along with a good (whats the word im looking for?) a great storyline that captivates the readers attention & imagination i think
it has to capture your attention and make you think...
If the writer knows something of what he's talking about, and has some writing skills, using proper literary elements, etc and not being repetetive... All of this is just part of maikng a great novel, theres more, but alot of judging a book, or anything for that matter, is simply opinion. different people are interested in different things.
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if the author can come up with new ideas and material instead of the same old song and dance, then I think that would make for a good vampire read. as well as a great hook, climax and ending. sequals are always a plus, leaves me to look forward to the next one.
I love a good book with depth and an honor bound scheme
being real about what it is to be a vampire, not going with stereotypes of us of course, but more than that, not having a stereotypical story. its all the twists and turns that captivate people, whether its a vampire story or any other.
Books about vampires that work are those that are either factual or rooted in fact. Pure fantasy often fails because credulity can only be stretched so far.
Our folk soul knows when something is real but is no longer acknowledged to be so in our modern materialistic culture.
The Highgate Vampire (The World of the Undead Unearthed at London’s Highgate Cemetery) is a work of non-fiction and therefore works on all levels as a vampire book of supreme interest to all fascinated by the genre. This is refelected by its popularity and continuing demand for the book and related merchandise, eg CDs.
http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Hightgate%20Vampire%20Book.htm
The Vampire Hunter’s Handbook ( A Concise Vampirological Guide) is another popular work due to its factual approach in disseminating the work of vampirologists and sifting what is genuine from what is clearly fraudulent.
http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Handbook.htm
Carmel (A Vampire Tale) is excellent because it is fiction rooted in fact. It continues and resolves the gothic story begun by Bram Stoker, developing it into what is almost indistinguishable from a genuine contemporary vampire hunt.
http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Carmel.htm
Well Im very fond of books that capture my attention. I want to feel as though I am in the story. I want to feel as though I can see that persons life etc.
To me no book is good unless you grab your audience's attention from the get go. It also needs to have strong characters and a strong ending that will leave the readers yearning for more
for me.. a good vampire book is one where altho the main people are vampires.. that is almost incidental to the story.. it shows that they are more than blood drinkers.. that they have hobbies and personalities and lives.
a book that keeps your interest from begining to end. not too many twists, and shows vampirers are more than blood drinkers
It has to live up to your expectations. The book suckers by anne billson is a vampire comedy, which many people would probably avoid, but it doesn't pretend to be anything else, and i loved it
im readin this one book right now called "the last day" its awesome!
a book that keeps your interest from begining to end. not too many twists
well things that make one good is a very catching beggining also have a mixture of action romance and make you have some comical areas in it as well you will need to have it to were a reader looses all sence of time and space and gets lost in your book thats what takes a good book also make your vampires mystorus and keep your reader guessing. ( thats how im writing mine)
Mystery, excitement..something full of adventure, perhaps maybe one that doesn't portray the Vampire as the bad guy. Let him get the girl..or the visa versa.
keeps you on the edge of your seat.
keep them wanting more. at the egde of thier seets to the point they cant put the book down
personally, for me its the characters. a book can have shit tons of action, but if the characters are two dimensional it just ruins it compeltely
I think the question you pose it extremly hard to answer...but I think a good example of vampire characters that are easy to get addicted to The Vampire Chronicles by Ann Rice...what a shame she turned religious and ended the wonderous adventures of Lestat...
After the Rice novels there was a lot of garbage vampire fiction on the market. I prefer stories that are variations from the norm, that use mixtures of reality spiced with fiction. I also prefer female authors, and creative manipulation of characters. Being able to relate to the primary characters is always a plus.
I have a vampire library in my basement. Book cases line the walls and are filled with many vampire, pagan, and ghost books. My mother loves to shop for me, she has a list of all the books I own. I don't even have that. But I get a vampire book at least once a month sometimes more than one. I really liked the Trisha Baker trilogy..It had me captivated and yet I thought the Historian lacked on so many levels, it didn't keep me entertained. I was let down.
There are so many books out there real and fiction that are wonderful. I think for the new year, I'll make a list and post all the books I have and we can discuss them...sorry went off topic there.
To keep me always guessing or thinking about the plot and ending.And of course romance,neverending love, guys with long hair and piercing eyes..yadda yadda.*grins.
For me, a good vampire book is not black and white. I do not like simple and totally evil vampire. The evil vampire should be intelligent and human-like. They should have moments of compassion to the point that the reader does not know whether they should cheer for the evil charcter or hate them. In addition, I like conflict within a vampire society. There are too many books of vampire versus human or vampire versus hunter. There are not that many books where it is vampire of one house against vampire of another house.
I like a variety of them, really. I like the ones who have vampires who are unapologetically evil and enjoy being predators, and I like the ones where, yes, their vampirism is more like living with anemia or something. If they're done right. The latter kind of books are hit-or-miss with me. For instance, I recommend "Happy Hour at Casa Dracula" for the hell of it. It's chick-lit, and I hate chick-lit, and this one was just as predictable as the rest of its chick-lit bretheren, but it's a good example of more realistic vampires in fiction.
Laurell K. Hamlitons "Anita Blake Vampire Hunter is a good series if you want everything rolled up into one. The characters draw your attention immediately and the Villians are ones you love to hate. It has a combo of every species immaginable (sp).
What makes a book good is if it can keep your attention has good characters and has some drama
If the author can keep the reader interested in the character, the plot and the overall depth of the material being read, makes it a good book.
hmm more chaarcter and some myth would make a good vampire movie type of legend n background blood gore and more :)
In Seán Manchester's Carmel and Bram Stoker's Dracula, there are naturally comparisons to be made because Seán Manchester's work of fiction, though rooted in fact (ie much hitherto unrecorded matter from the Highgate case), is an attempt to resolve the loose ends apparent in Bram Stoker's gothic masterpiece.
It should be remembered, too, that Stoker's work was also rooted in some fact. Dracula was thoroughly researched using works of non-fiction about folklore and vampirism. He also visited Highgate Cemetery on innumerable occasions where he took tea in the afternoon. He would have been aware of tales of ghosts and demons that abounded in the years prior. Not surprsingly, perhaps, he somewhat fortuitously set the Westenra Tomb in the Western Cemetery at Highgate ~ the very section that was later identified as having a vampire contagion.
However, truth is invariably stranger than fiction, as Stoker undoubtedly knew. Hence Stoker's greatest novel has become one of the most read books in the world.
There might well be a link between the names "Wilhelmina" and "Elizabeth" regarding Seán Manchester's none-fiction book The Highgate Vampire. There is certainly a link between the names "Elizabeth" and "Lusia" as the latter is the Polish nomenclature for "Elizabeth." That is just one of many odd coincidences in the Highgate Vampire case. Elizabeth Wojdyla, however, is the correct name of the convent schoolgirl who, along with Barbara Moriarty, witnessed the vampiric apparitions in early 1967 at Highgate Cemetery. "Lusia," on the other hand, is not the correct name of the person referred to in the text of Seán Manchester's book as he made clear in its first edition, published in 1985: “Among the many people who contacted me,” he recounted in the first complete account of the case, “was the sister of a beautiful twenty-two-year-old woman, whom I shall call Lusia.”
Lusia is someone who has never been identified ~ a photographic model, and much later an actress, portrayed Lusia in reconstructions of her in the case. This was due to the tragic outcome, and a need to preserve her identity in perpetuity. There has been a great deal of speculation about her because, in the aftermath of the Highgate exorcism, her story evolved into one of the more extreme metaphysical outcomes that will not surprise the trained and seasoned demonologist, but is certainly a difficult area for most others.
Seán Manchester's initial discovery of her was one of sheer delight tinged with a terrible sadness that grew stronger until it finally eclipsed her. Within the sombre tones of an apt piece of music wherein she became enshrouded, he wrote: “Her cascading flaxen tresses caught the dull illumination of the moonlight in their pale reflection. Somewhere, in the background, I could hear the dying pulses of Strauss’ solemn orchestral work, Metamorphosen. It haunts me to this day.”
Lusia entered the author's life as an attractive young female virgin of Nordic extraction, living in north London, who, being touched by what lies beyond earthly confines, became part of the nightmare of hideous visions and visitations associated with Highgate at that time. He glimpsed an indistinct figure toward the end, a figure swathed in a white cerement, her face the colour of marble save for her mouth, which seemed full and wanton. This was not the Lusia he had first known. It was something else. A shade of something that had been sucked dry of life.
Regarding any comparison between Stoker's and Seán Manchester's work, both, of course, deal with an identical area of supernatural evil where the focus becomes Highgate Cemetery (referred to as "Kingstead Churchyard" in Dracula) and Hampstead Heath (which identity remains unchanged in Dracula). Ashurst House, whose gardens later became Highgate Cemetery, was sold and leased to a succession of tenants, one of whom was a mysterious figure from the Continent who arrived in the wake of a vampire epidemic that had its origins in south-east Europe.
It is, therefore, hardly surprising that comparisons are made because both Stoker and Manchester are examining the same reality that they deal with in different ways. Emily Gerard observed in 1888 that the exorcism requires “opening the grave of the suspected person and driving a stake through the corpse [The Highgate Vampire p34].”
Bram Stoker had not yet written Dracula, much less had a film been made of his vampire novel. Stoker did, however, consult Gerard’s work along with a number of other non-fiction resources concerned with the tradition and lore of the undead. Comparisons, needless to say, could be drawn between these and Stoker's later work.
i think it is always good if a book can really make you feel like you are part of the story as if you where there with the people as things unfolded for them
Dependin on the book I guess, It could be any number of things. I like some of the romance vampire books ( The Silver Kiss) Also there are some gore vampire books, the details of the kills and whatnot. I don't really know what makes a vampire book good. I guess it all depends on the book and the type of book you want to write.
I love detailed sensory writing whereyou almost feel you are in the book...
Just like a Vampire Movie.. It has to be intriguing... One that will jump out and get your attention from the beginning..Like if you know what is gonna happen but you are still so into it you jump when it happens.
For me, i think a little romance, a good looking man or woman, with a few surprises here and there. Plus maybe a little bit of twisted history. Bram Stokers Dracula and Queen of the Damned are examples.
I want the vampire to be complex. If the author is worth a damn, the character will be both evil and redeemed. He should struggle with the same sorts of issues we all do.
Im also fond of a book that makes you think. I like one that can blow your mind a bit or with a good twist. I have to get inthrawled in it.
true facts, something that holds interest...perhaps something with a bit more action.
As a novelist, I know it's always good with any novel to captivate the reader and keep them attentive.
As for the vampyre books, it's always nice to see one that has their information intact. It's always horrible to find one with wrong information of vampyres.
I must agree that the book must be based on facts and the information must be accurate. I like when an author does allot of research before writing a novel.
for me to stay interested in a vampire book it has to have a lot of detail like what the vampire/victim feels the emotions being felt and well thought characters...
As long as it has good Adventures and roles its a good book.
Even more excellent opinions and ideas, Keep em coming i thank you all very much i have started on my first book feel free to drop me a line.
lets see whats next.
I don't think there is much of a difference between what makes a good book and what makes a good vampyre book. I think that if you are going to use a specific subject you have to research it well and thoroughly and if you are going to invent your own 'legend' it should be interwoven with historical facts to make it as plausible as possible. If you are using a subject that is emotive to many people get a raft of opinion from those who know the most about it.
A good book has to engage me. Get me involved. Make me lose track of time. Get that done, and I'd say you have a really great book. Laurell K Hamilton is one of the best Vampire authors i've ran across.
She accomplishes all of my requirements and so much more.
it has to have interesting characters, there should be a little humour; a good vampire story will tell the story from a vampire's point of view, but most importantly, it the story should be based in the Lancaster / Morecambe area. hint hint.
the author must believe in what they have written in order to draw my attention in so that i may appreciate the book even more
I’d have to say that one of the main things I enjoy in a vampire book would have to be details. The gorier, eventful, suspenseful the novel is the more I will enjoy it. It also has to have some real details something true to life, something that would make me believe that this is possible. One other thing I really enjoy is when they make the characters have humanistic features, such as weakness, or primal instincts. Those traits are what I really look for in almost any book but especially vampire novels.
There is a teenage and older series called Cirque du Freak that I really enjoy. It has all of the features I look for in a book and more.
Having a good, creative story, intriguing characters and doing something original. Deeper thoughts and ideas are essential. Cheesy, recycled plots and characters are not good. Trust me, I've read a lot of Vampire books! Anne Rice and Laurell K. Hamilton are amazing Vampire authors but for very different reasons...
details, description. A good setting a strong character basis.
If it challenges belief and makes the reader reconsider what they think, then the writer has achieved something.
A difficult question to answer because everyone has different intrest points. Some have none at all. But in my case the turning point in vampire books I have read some have been plain stupid and unrationable with the rest of the story. So a good vampire book like a movie doesn't drone on and on about nonsense and doesn't have a climax that is completely off topic of the book nor an ending that is sad...a lingering is always good to me.
I like any book that makes me feel as though I am actually living what they are going through. A book that keeps me on the edge of my seat & one that I just can't put down.
Intimacy... That is a interesting part and keeps your attention.
Variety of characters with certain amount of mystery to which has a very good hidden meaning.
Also with a ending to which will make you set back and say where is the next book?
what keeps my interest is from the movies you have one mindset as to what a vampire looks like...but most books will show you a businessman or a father...a teacher...you get background and realize that a vampire can be anyone and they don't always look hungry and ominous lol.
Hey try finding this one, it's great, but a rare find...
The Gohic Rainbow, by Eric Muss-Barnes
ISBN--0-9656318-2-6
you keep the reader interested with detail but not overly done with it American Gothic is a book i read in a day i couldn't put it down
a good vampire has to make you keep thinking about what you have read even days after i have read a lot of vampire novels and the one that had me thinking about it all the time was "anne rices queen of the damned"
a good story helps not just all killing and feeding but a good story line as well
For me good vampiric book should have a character of vampire who is powerfull, have a bit of human in it self. The action is quite engaging and breathtaking...
The feelings should be described with a great passion. Landscape should be dark, misty, just to complete the dark and mystic atmosphere...
for me it is the charecters if they are not interesting i can't get into the book and i don't mean like bloodlust i mean like there thoughts and how they interact with the other ppl around them.
Anna Rice.
if she wrote it. it probably kicks ass. sex blood and for some reason compassion. all very importan.
i think they all have to have supernatural abilities and of course lots of sex and violence!!! and the vampires should be mean and ruthless as possible
The characters should be believable. The plot and storylines should be interesting, with enough brain teases to keep you turning the pages to see what happens next. It is always nice to see someone come up with something new that has not been done.
keep an active interest and hold more of the true telling of vampires, not over dramatic myths, unless of course it happens to be a comedy xD
i think what makes a good book is the author and how he/she writes it. there has to have a good plot and story that flows throughout the book or books. and must have a great ending.
If you are a true reader...then a vampire book will attract you by what is in your normal collection of books. For instance...as an avid reader I'm attracted to books that offer the action/adventure/comedy and romance. A good vampire book for me is one that contains those elements and draws my attention from the start. A story that moves and doesn't drag is important too.
i think if the writer is original and extends on normal beliefs about vampires then that makes a good book
I think what makes a good vampire book is, first and foremost, originality that has some roots in vampire folklore. The book has to have some kind of basis and reasoning for what goes on. Also, it can't play too much on cliches.
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For me a good vampire book is one that holds attention, doesnt drag out to long, and one that gives good detail as to get a good picture. The ending doesnt have to be happy, but one that goes well with the book itself, and not something random or unthinkable by what the book talked about. It is hard to keep my attention with a book so it really has to be interesting for me. :)
When it jumps out from the beginning and grabs you and doesnt let go until you are finished
i love most books with vampires but i wish more gore n blood was related within them steak stabbing isnt enough n holy water pfft lol..
When it grabes your focus from the beginning and holds it until you are finished
If you can feel what the character feeling and going through , and it draws your attention from the begining to the end . eg. Anne Rice 's vampire novels who hasn't felt what Lestat was going through.
That the book engages the reader into the world and place when they are reading. Also to give you the strong imagery and devices that make you see and hear the sounds of what you are reading. Pretty much that you enjoy the book and that it encaptures the reader through the various devices.
a good vampire book humm lets see where do i start good graphical sounds and undying love romantic passione can make and awesome vampric embrace story
I like the books to be believable but also a little out there as well. Also to be exciting so when you pick it up and start reading your sucked in right away.