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In my experience, most Vampire groups or Communities are just a collection of Cults that are looking to recruit people for the sake of a good mind f***ing.

When I see a Vampire Community, my first instinct is to inspect it's content. For example, I might look to see the Drama/Information ratio, to see if the Spirituality side is just a front for something less meaningful. I would also look at how the community treats newcomers. Do they welcome them and give them the opportunity to learn the ropes, or are they harsh and manipulative towards them?

Many people who have chosen our Path have been ostracized from our families and communities. Many of us, feeling the emptiness that follows, have come online and sought people of like minds to join along with and to have as a "family" of sorts.

What are your requirements for such a thing? I know myself, the only people permitted in my House are those who are honest and forthgoing, since I despise those who play with their cards under the table. However, I offer anyone who asks guidance in the ways of this Path of Spirituality.

My requirement for any Community I am thinking about joining is that they are overall an open group, with little to no censorship, who encourage self-growth and offer guidance to those who request it.

What about you folks?

I see your views as views of my own. Save for the fact that I do not cater to minors in anyway. Too many of the adolescent social groups just want to fit in, I am not into these fittings in. Once an individual gaines experiance, they gain knowledge.

As you have stated, most communities are quite manipulative, though a very few that are the inbetween, are very forthright in what they wish for their members. As long as you carry on with open mind, the world is your oyster so to speak.

I can understand that. I would expect some to have Awakened to some point in order to be able to truly pursue a Path in Dark Spirituality, and most Awakenings occur in the late Teens. Recruiting minors, in my opinion, would be like playing with fire, and equally as dangerous.

minors have more to attend to in their doings then they think, they should be more concerned with learning on their own for their future, not worrying about what order they are to join. They should be training for coming of age, not relying on the groups that will take them in before they are ready.

And yet, if you mention this fact to them, they retaliate and ignore the common truths. Kids!!

I am glad to see there are others who agree. The aforementioned Communities would have me to believe that I am incorrigibly flawed because I think the Communities should have some morals about them.

I, however, know better. It is one thing to be a Predator and prey for survival. It is a whole 'nother thing to prey for sport.

haha....to become worthy of a title, one must spend the time and earn it.

One does not become over night. One endures their trials. if they survive them. then they should be considered.

Haha.

Even high school is a life or death trial these days.....Such is life to the instant gratification generation

this is true, but like you said, many, not all.

This is the first Vampire site I found. I certainly think it is very open...you only have to look at the forum to see that.

As for learning..yes I think thats available too.

Coven and Houses provide the 'family' element.

Forgot to say...all this for free too.

When I speak of corruption in the ranks of Vampire Communities, I speak mostly of places not like this one. There was a place I was once a member of, and it's biggest flaw was that it was very exclusive and didn't take kindly to newcomers.

Many would see this as a challenge and keep fighting to get in, but it soon turns out to be a dead-end road, because while some will dangle the carrot in front of your nose, they will never deliver on their promises.

I think the red flag should fly if someone asks for personally identifiable details from you, such as your phone number, home address and so forth. Any bit of information those types get can, and usually will be used against you.

Yes, may words may sounded jaded, but at a time when I was most vulnerable, a Vampire Community vaguely similar to this one, many of the members there actually members here, pretty much had fun at my expense until I had finally had enough and lashed out, thus making myself expendable.

I have been very critical of these kinds of communities ever since. I think the redeeming factor about VR is that you do NOT have to pay in order to enjoy the greater benefits of Vampire Rave. You receive FULL service unpaid, but can get the equivilent of ELITE service by paying.

You get it all for free, and can buy a little extra. That is why I like VR.

That and the fact we can speak openly about things without contraversal subjects being locked or deleted. That was a really big problem in one of my old haunts as well.

*Lost boys Keifer voice* JOIN US!!!

Well, the deal with Lost Boys confused me. I mean, vampires are naturally powerful, right? They are creatures of the night with little regard to human life. So why would they go and Sire a whole slew of humans, just out of general principle?

That was my biggest problem with many Vampire Flicks. Still is to this day.

My requirements... hmmm... a place where I can be myself and have my own opinion... where people won't try to 'convert' me. I like having options... ummm.... yea, I think that's it.

A lot of the vampire communities on the Net tend to be full of wannabes, i've noticed. The ones that do have serious members do seem to close ranks on newbies.

every comunity has its pro and con, so I beleive online or rl, it will always remian the same, psotive points and negative points.

Anything you can do in a online group you can basically do alone, eccept for a few things, and i do not really trust online groups or communities, you never know what their motives are...

Just stating my own experiance of many years wandering around in this void called life. I do believe it is hard to fit in somewhere and if thy openly welcome you it makes you supicious after being rejected so long. when we go looking for some place to fit in isn't that because we have been rejected and don't fit in (now I'm babbling),, anyway when I came here I was very hesitant of the friendly peeps, but after being here a year ,almost, I found it is better and more educational than other sites and that is what I was looking for. Besides I do fit in here where in real life I haven't fit in at all. But in real life that is how it is.

With regards to the Lost Boys comment...

I think that the (fictional) vampires who "sire" a flock of their own do it for very much the same reasons that so many come to sites much like this one, or join the communities that Max has spoken of. Loneliness. In the fictional vamp's case, his existance is eternal and he craves companionship to bring interest to his endless nights. In our case, we know that this lifetime is still finite, and so we yearn for ocmpanionship to give us a feeling that we are accepted in a world that is filled with so many people who are different and often afraid of what we are/think/do. Even solitary hunters seek out their own kind on ocasion. And the vampire is a paradox in this regard. We hunt alone, but we are still very social cretures.

I agree with you. There is a lot of deception nowadays, nothing really is what it seems. Something I value anywhere is openmindedness, kindness, and people who are honest. I think for any group to be successful it needs to be made up of people who will admit that they don't understand stuff, and ask for help.

I agree with your opinon 100%

I think if a group wants to add members it needs to be open to the people it is asking to join them.

I believe that the groups should welcome all

In the one I am in only consists of who was watched over since they were born. Like me but its along story. They are really strict to who is in it and who wants to come in or thinks they need to. And as for online communities I think they are just fake or just looking to fit in somewhere because they cant do it face to face.

I came to VR in hopes of finding someothers like myself. i dont live in a rual area but its not like i live in NYC or anything like that.

I was in a community for a bit. the only reason i ever got any respect was because my boyfriend at the time was a higher ranking member. but if i was by myself, they were down right cruel to me. i spoke out against the stupid petty rules and how uptight and mean they were. i left on very bad terms but i didnt care. i was not going to be mistreated by people who i came to in my time of need. i may have acted harshly and rash but they had no right to disrespect me and toy with me like they did.

i may be young but i am not stupid.

but my opinion on minors is this, someone has to show them the truth. weed out the posers from the real deal. there are plenty of teens who awaken and have no idea what to do. and no one is willing to help them cause they are young.

how are they suppose to learn and mature? why not open up and help those who need it?

I agree with you Max as far as what you really should expect from a real group...and not a group that is just trying to be like others.

one thing tho we all desire to belong this desire is very strong and mostly we cant deny it for ever, one way or another we all submit to it

arent Vampire Groups like Houses or maybe Covens?

Vampire groups are a lot like motorcycle groups, lots of posers and wannabees. This is the place to be. Not that there aren't other good ones out there, but you have to wade through a lot of shit to find them.

i personally am a loner and more of a lycan so ill pass

I have found that all groups tend to lean towards those of like mind. There are many houses/covens and such online and in real life and from what I have seen all members tend to be of like mind. This is the most diverse group of people I have ever met and I find that to be refreshing.

This is the first vampire site i have found online. I belong to a clan outside the Rave but i have to say that here i´ve found good friends...

go for what you feel..

I think it can be good for some people but just make sure you do your research first to make sure it is a community that is going to be good for you.

I think that all communities tend to have a variety of people who seem to get along even though they differ in beliefs. That is what makes such a thing work. If everyone were alike it would be no fun.

people should do some homework b 4 joining any thing no matter what it is

I have yet to find a group of vampires that meets what I would need to be willing to join. Well other than places online. I am a loner I admit this .. is it because I am a vampire that I tend to shy away from people or simply my nature? I suppose in the end its a mute question because that is how it is. All of the communities I have looked into .. talked to people that are part of said things etc, seem to have this very strict idea of what a vampire is and how one should act. I for one believe that at 41 I am quite able to decide for myself if an action is one I should take or not. I do not let my family or loved ones tell me how behave why would I allow a social group to do so?

I wouldnt join. All that is just a bunch of misguided bunch of roleplayers, wich have no idea of what Team Work Means.

you wanna join that?

Yeah, if you have a ambition of being burried and lost by incapability.

i agree with kawb on this one as well, the more people know about joining something the better, because joining something before you know anything is just plain stupid, especially kids, some kids will join anything to make themselves look cooler in front of other kids, i should know i used to do that when i was a kid i dont know if any of you did, but i did and i regret it to this day, but thats just me, i just think that kids and teens should read up in what they are joining before they join thats my opinion

I wish there were a vampire group or clan around here. If there is I have yet to find it most are just fetish groups that like to dress up but finding a real one would be a first for me

Just thought I'd let everyone know that meetup.com does meetups like this. I was signed up to a gothic group, a vampire group, and a wicca group... Though the only one that ever had meetings was the Wicca group. It may be differnt in your area though, worth a shot maybe.

i like some of your views on transparency of dicusion but thats about it.

I totally agree. I want to be a part of a wider community but all the groups are full of nutters.
How can you vet for people who are genuine or at least going to respect those who want to understand more.

I have found the most acceptance in the BDSM community, where I can be who I want to be and move around with ease.

i personally think that a group is worth joining if you really get something out of it, but honestly i think that anything you can learn from a group you can learn by yourself so i do not think that it is nessasary to join a group unless you are joining for the friendship and fun of it

I wish I wasn't so jaded -- i would be more likely to explore. Still, with some research, I see no reason why you can't end up witha list of possibilities.

Its all how you wish to see it as. These Houses or Communities are there to attract like minded people to a specific cause. In many cases, yes, their cults, but not all are a brain washing camp.

All in all, I would say just find an online community where its not house or elitess specific and just chat. Granted you don't get some deeper aspect of a specific ideal, but, you get different perspectives that could be much better then that of a house.

- Sin (VII)

yes i agree there is a bunch of wannabees as others say.. i may be one of those who feels that i might be one so i came here to get educated, but i was wondering on the subject (kids?) i believe they are the ones that follow, they to need a place to go . they come here but what about the street.. there really isnt any places that except this kind of culture and when they do find one its an adult club ..

That Maximillion started this thread strikes me as odd, he and I have difference of opinions on MANY things, but I agree with him in this regard, although minors shouldn't be involved with anything like this, they have enough to deal with in this life

I have joined a group (coven) here on VR and I have always had that sense of belonging and being wanted. I have felt welcomed and never been pushed into something I didnt want to be/go.

However if I was on the outside (real world) I feel it would be different. I would be pushed into something I didnt want to go or be just to be a part of this group.

I wouldn't join a proper cult. I've heard too much negitivity about them, plus I very much doubt it's my scene.

intresting thought... i think it would depend on what you are looking for in a group and what you are hoping to get out of being a member of any group

I came to VR out of curiosity. I tried it out as free member and felt that VR was a place I could blend in. I have been a life long solitary and this is the first "community" I have ever felt that I was a part and not apart. That is even more so in the House I am a member. Even there I am a lurker in the shadows only becoming a part when I desire. If this "community" demanded greater socialization beyond my desires I would leave. I do not know to what extent this attitude is found among the membership of VR. It would be hard to quantify.

Yeah, most on the Rave would agree with that sentiment I think. As it is a very large atmosphere even though online, it does have its perks. That is, if you tend to shy away from the immature bickering and are more into the learning, and maturity that resides here.

Soul couldn't have said it better. Thank you for that!! I agree.

a totally fascinating thread.. we all have our own reason for our interest.. but to my knowledge, VR is the only site where this would be discussed in this manner.
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I like that, in itself.

well this is all interesting and I say that everyone should stop and use alittle common sense before doing anything.

in my personal experience i have found that real vampire groups tend to have a more serious atmosphere as aposed to just the online vampire community,i also find that the net vampire groups tend to draw attention to what i call the wannabes and role players and in all honesty if one chooses to join an organized vampire group i recomend befriending some individuals in the group and ask questions before joining just because you think it's cool because simply put once your in"your in" it's not like the internet where when you get bored you can simply delete your account and move elsewheres.

"tread lightly in your words and speak strongly in your actions"

i agree you sould do your homework before joining any group like that, just to be on the safe side of thing for the time being.

I for one look at the people who are part of the community...if for the most they are welcoming, then I feel more at ease...for those who choose to only interact with learned members then I don't see the point of having the register option on their site...any community, online or not can have it's pros and cons...I find that VR is a place of acceptance and where one is welcomed...unlike other places that I shall not name

about the whole kids part from what i understand from my little sister, shes in highschool is that being weird or dark in anyway is now the norm or the popular. So alot of kids who would normaly be popular sunshine loveing people want to be dark because its cool and they join the sits cause they think oh i'm on it its cool. Being dark or considered a vampire is the new trend...and that alone scares me in more ways then i ever thought possible

first, let me say that im my short time being on vr i haven't had any bad experiences with others. as for as joining a vampire cult or clan goes, people shoul always do a little research before hand. i believe that most members on vr are decent people but there will always be some bad ones mixed in the lot.

i got put in a coven here.i never asked to be.im an individuall and dont do the group thing,so i ignore it.

I think the idea of the coven or house is to be around people like yourself if you need help you have someone to turn too and i think its a wonderful idea.

In my observations of others, I would say NOT to join. I have seen to many people lose their identities, and take on the truths of others, instead of finding their own.

I have to agree all should be welcomed

I prefer to be by myself or with a small group of people that i really know . It eliminates alot of crap .

I like being on my own.....I don't play well with others. Most of the time. :)

I would not join a cult because they would just try to run your life and brainwash you to their twisted beliefs

Well to me a cult is like religion these days or actually religion I think is the start of all cults it is the biggest cult of all.

i would have to say it would be your opinion , if you decide to join way the good with the bad as with anything.

I believe everyone should be given an opportunity to join any vampire group they choose, yet they should be subject to a leadership that controls the agenda of all members for the greater good of the Vampire Community.

Join or not. It makes not a difference to me. Most of the time people want to affiliate themselves with people of like thoughts and desires. You can see it in society all around you.

Look at the foot ball fans. They congregate all over the place. Geeks, D&Ders, RPGers, choose your clique and you'll see what I mean. However those of weak will will tend to be swayed and take on personalities of the stronger individuals.

The freedom to to be me. Not what others want. Different ideas for me to ponder. Others to ponder with.

myself im not one to join in a group. i perfer to be myself on my own terms. i tend to rebel against those who try to tell me how i should be. but hey thats just me.

I dont like all of those groups that try to take week people and brainwash them about all of this bullshit.

but,not everyone can be strong and have their own beliefs and values.

I would have to agree that groups are great things if they are about socialization and sharing of knowledge.

I have seen and been on many vampire sites prior to making VR my home. The others are very cold and you don't feel welcome at all. Here at VR I have made friends, I have learned a lot and still am learning. People here are friendly, helpful, creative and dark. You can express yourself and not be judged by the outside society standards. However here there are rules to follow like any community and also you have to pay respect to others. If someone asks for your personal information you still have a choice to give it.

just be careful in some cults if you get in them your in for life some have a lot of power and they wont let you go but not all r like that

its always good to be cautious about joining groups. no matter what kind of group or community it is

i believe some communties like some of you have said can be like a cult you just half to be careful who and what they are about and make sure you dont give out any info that is personal . I found vr to be the best thing that ever happen to me i have come to love it here and my covent family very much they have all welcomed me with open arms and i have made alot of good friends on here. i have embraced my true self through here and found myself and have been exsepted as a equal and not a outsider. This is a really good thread and i would just like to close with a thanx to all who have helped me find my true calling here in this place.

Case in point? Even online things can get full of drama .......... as we all know. It's is important to remain cautious always. No matter what you are involved in.

I have seen to much goings on between one Community and another.
Having grown up in New Jersey/New York..I saw the rise aand fall of a few.

Some have there Pros and cons so diverce that it makes them an easy target for younger vampers..while others do a kind of recrutment of there own.

My only advise would be to do your HOMEWORK...
If so is so is saying to join said group.
Find out if they are up to snuff.

But places that want you blood bound befor you hit the door I'd leave untouched.

This is one of many resons why I love VR
You get a chance right from the get go to see how things work and run..and all befor you start to think of a screen name.
This place Rocks..

Well it is easier to find groups of people of like mind on the internet. As for the brainwashing part... I just don't believe everything someone would say to me especially if it sounds far fetched.

I believe to join any group you should have people that at least share your principals.

I would have to say, be very wary of the groups you join and make sure you trust in them.

Join up. If you really need that type of support group go ahead. Just do a little research so you know what you are getting into.

Show me your friends and I'll show you who you are, people need mentors, not all but it helps.

When I join some community, be it Vampire or just spiritual, I show myself as I am, so no false expectations would be after that.
It all goes to that - Like me as I am...ok, don't like it, cope with it.
I haven't been into any other Vampire communities before this, and in some way I am glad, because perhaps I haven't experienced what they had to offer in bad way.
I came here to learn. To find out more about one of my sides.
I believe everyone has it's light and dark side and I have come here with my dark side. with my thoughts and feelings of it.
If about joing some cult or anything, I wouldn't , from the info I have heard they are just a bunch of ppl who do brainwashing. I better reside into places like these.

I am a loner to the depths of my lil black heart ( ask any of my coven mates here they will agree.. if they know me at all lol) so the idea of joining a group that thinks it can tell me how to act or fell ot think.. seems odd to me. I am a grown person and very well able to decide what is proper and what is not all on my own. I do not need a group to help me decide this.

that said.. the flip side is many people like to feel they are part of something and for them this is wonderful. I know quite a few people that are members of vampire groups and adore the belonging and having friends and etc.

For me its usually a case of they seem to have little to offer me other than wishing to control me and .. unless you earn that right... so not happening.

Dark Greeting's,
I have been in a rl Coven/House and in a House and now Coven on line.In rl I am amuseing thats why I was kept around they actually knew 1/2 breeds do exist.No they were not gamers or posers,On here it seems some are not open minded enough to believe we do exist.So both have there flays and perks.Myself I find most on here to be openminded.I am a Elder and Founder of my own rl Clan/Family.We accept all and all of us are misfits.We are The Lost Boys of the Desert Wasteland,and all of us have a say in all things.we do not doubt ones belief in what they are.On line I am fortunate to belong to a Coven that accepts me as am.So yes all in all I would say be careful when deciding if you wish to join a group and be sure you have the same ideas about beliefs.I also believe if any ask for help you should help them how else do you learn,but if the person teaching doesn't believe what you are they should say I can't teach you,not you don't exist.Sorry for rambleing,but thats just me and my opinion.
Dark Blessing's,
KA

i try not to join anything until i research it completely and explore all the options and have an out if need be.

i agree with Maximillion and kids well most are not mature enoudh yet but some are so i guess it depends on the kid

I think it is all based on knowledge and experience. I don't think all groups are posers, but it's really hard to tell which ones are or not.

just like minded friends I know have banded together as a group....no minors, of course.

But the best is finding this site... like the 'real life' group, a place for discussion, learning, teaching, listen to someone who needs to talk about what is going on with them.

plz - But many 'kids' are indeed more mature than many adults, and there are many like that on this site.

Isn't a large group of people who are interested in vampires, coosider themselves vampires, etc on a vampire themed website considered a vampire group? If so, then I guess everyone here would considering we're aall members of VR.

the one that i am a bit leery about are the psy they can drain your energy somtimes even to cause death

I think one should be careful. Much suberfuge in this world.

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