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XSilverxMoonxNightX
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Energy and healing
Can psy vamps and those who have the gift to heal really really heal over the internet? a friend of mine told me that spoke to vamps who claim they are able to do so. I want to know what you guys think!




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I really don't see how that is possible. If that were the case, then they would be able to do supress energy from watching television, and I really don't see that being possible either.



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i doubt it. any healing that actually works is done in person. but thats based solely on personal experience.



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Hopefully i understand the question right but i personally do not think that anyone can heal someone over the internet, some people have a hard enough time healing another person while they are around them...



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Well they say the power of prayer does amazing things.. So maybe being able to use your abilities over the internet could be possible...



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06:28:42 Oct 22 2007
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Minor healing is possible, I know because I've done it before. However major healing is almost impossible to do without being in person since it requires so much more.


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Alas, the power of prayer is just a primative form of psi-energy. Only used in moderation. It is not possible over the internet to heal anyone...But if you are thinking of that person while using the internet, than the internet may be the conduit for such action. But you as the energy source, are concentrating on that certain individual just as with the power of prayer. Same concept.

Just as with psychic hotlines or whathaveyou, and with over the phone tarot, reaching the same conclusion...This can and has been done. Just depends on how concentrated such energies are. If the individual is experianced with the energies thaumaturgy, than it can be done. If said individual who claims to be vampire (place type here), then they should have the experiance to do so.



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don't know why a vampire is mentioned for distance healing but anyone with a level two reiki attunement can with ease.



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I'm siding with Catalunah. I have done it online before, with a great bunch of people. The effect was temporary, but it still worked.

I love doing a healing online, I learned the hard way to keep some water near me though.

Once, I reached out my hand as if to touch the persons head, and she felt it.

I'm a believer. It works, but it's not lasting.



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I would have to say it would depend on the healing to be done. Some minor perhaps. But anyhitng major I would not think so as touch seems to be a very important part.



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I would add, that it may have alot to do with the power of suggestion as well. As most would fall victim to suggestive will, if they wish for something to be done badly enough, nothing will stop this psychological power either.



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Sure I think it’s possible. Some people have to hear something to learn it while others have to touch or see it. So maybe with healing some have to touch for it to work, while others visualize or think it.



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I've never heard of psy vamps healing as I was under the impression they took energy not gave it.

Remote healing is possible, the same as remote viewing is. I've done it myself. Not over the internet though. The way I practice it, you need to be uninterrupted, and the internet is the world's greatest disruption!



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Psi's can give and take energy, even though they are ment to survive off of energy, though by the same cause and effect , at the same time they may if they wish give the same energy they consumed. That is, if they feel the need, want or desire. Most are told that you cannot give what you have already consumed, or that psi just means feeding. These points are a bit off beat. Anyone whether psi or not, can give and take energy. Either for healing or otherwise. But it would take an experianced individual nonetheless to harness the knowledge of how to give it rather than to recieve it. Like that of reverse polarity.



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10:47:19 Oct 22 2007
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IsisLadyOfLife , the reason it's possible as energy knows no boundaries in space and or time. It does happen.
it may not happen at one time.. it may have to be repeated and allowed to grow and heal just as the disease did, Dependent upon the situation.




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I beleive it can be possible but as some mention with minor healing, then again, it has happen before with major healing so...honestly..anything is possible in this domain



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I think that would all depend on the abilities of those attempting to do such a thing. I do know of those who can and those who just say they can.



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One does not have to be a vamp to be able to manipulate energy, even energy sent a long distance. There are those who can do such things.



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13:54:10 Oct 22 2007
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I would think you would have to be in the presence of the healer,But some say it can be done long distance,But good luck to ya..



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i am not sure but i think someone did it to me a few weeks ago but not sure who or why so yes i think it is possible to do over the internet.



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wouldn't it depend on the strength of the person administering the healing



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it would depend on the strength of the healer in question and also i think the physical distance as well....i dont think some1 from american with weak psychiac abilities would be able to help some1 in australia....lol its just too far, even with the connect of the internet.



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reiki level II attunement, it focuses on distance healing. anyone attached to another can send energies, but a thorough healing/cleansing is best done in person.



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I don’t think that energy can be transmitted over the internet. I do believe the energy produced by the collective thoughts and prayers of many people can effect a person or situation. Say you sent an email to a million people and got them all to pray for someone or something. They would have to be real prayers or thoughts of good with strong faith backing them. I think that could help someone. I don’t think that one person could heal another by typing into a computer.



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Any healing I have witnessed or partaken in has always been in person. The notion your friend presented, sounds of whimsy and a farce.



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I dont think that psy vamps are that strong, to be able to heal someone mover the internet. I find to be very impossable. I think you have to generally be close to another like in the same town for psy vamps to heal, course this is just my opinion.



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Carvall
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Humans.....up to and including vamps have the ability to heal.....I have taken part in one session online, and it certainly seemed possible.



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Minor healing yes, but it would require a lot of energy from the healer. In person major healing can be done. but I do not think that a major healing online can be done. But anything is possible.



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Carvall
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jagee7

I think that would depend on how the healer works.

People are generally not using their own energy.



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While that is true Carvall, they do have to use at least some of their personal energy, and with the concentration and "pushing" of the energy, they will use an amount of their own.

Distance they need to "push" and how much healing is needed will account for their personal loss.



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Carvall
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jagee7

That's an interesting point. The people I was with allowed the energy to flow, rather than trying to push.....distance is no barrier.



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Carvall

That is something that I have not heard or thought of. Letting it flow would remove the need for the personal drain.

Thank you for another way to look at it.



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It MAY be possible, but how? wouldnt you have to be near to the person to get the correct energies?



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CelestiaNocturne

That is a good point, which is why I would think that it would take a good deal of the healers energy.
But it could be a generalized healing energy, because you would know the person you are healing, at least enough to connect with them. I always thought that you needed to connect with the person to heal them.

Maybe someone can give a better explanation.



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Carvall
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Absent healing has been going on for a very long time.....try it yourself, experiment.



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Carvall

There needs to be a connection between the healer and the one needing the healing. Am I correct in that thought?

And if I am correct, could a connection be made through meditation?



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Carvall
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jagee7

A connection can be simply a name, a photograph etc.

I am no expert on what is called meditation, the best way I can explain it is , I relax, tune in and let it flow.

I have spoken too many people who practice many forms of healing, my own personal opinion is....it's as hard or simple as you care to make it.



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Thanks Carvall

I am going to give it a try and see how it goes.



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I am really not sure but I have heard of it happening. I really have never tried to do it myself because I really do not believe that is a way that it can be done.

You can call me closed minded on it but how can I be expected to believe in it when I have yet to try or see it actually work?



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what i meant by i dont think so is i think that you actually have to touch the person you need to heal



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you can "send" energy....over distances, but it's not like you just click on "send"....:P



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Carvall
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Cobalt

No, I would not call you or anyone else who does not believe as I do any kind of name.

All I say is.....try it if your drawn to it....if not, leave it alone....see, simple lol



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i experienced it before in my time.. my mom can do it but i can .. i can draw in but not give out..



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reading someone is possible over long distances depending on how strong your psychic ability is but healing someone online I don't think that can be done



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i would think there would have to be some kind of physical contact for any kind of healing to work..other wise they could just heal anyone anywhere wheither they can feel them or not.



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wow.. i dont only think but i believe that you can not get healed over the internet
im pretty sure that youd have to be in the presence of the healer



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Carvall
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SMiTTeNKiTTeN

If you believe a psychic link can be made over distance.....it follows that 'link' can also be used for healing.



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Through distance, sure they can. I don't see why the Internet could be any different, I think it would be the same with phones or hell, lack of any electronics. I think it probably depends on the power of the psy vamp and maybe amount of distance.



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In large groups and with mass amounts of energy it can be done...... I know of a few people and ....... familiars that would say so...



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It would take immense concentration and skill, but I can see how that could be accomplished. It'd be very difficult though.



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Carvall
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I don't want to be a thread hog...but just this last thing.

I believe that the giving and receiving of healing in any one of many forms is one of the easiest and basic of things.

What you are doing in effect is giving your time....to stop thinking, doing, and being totally involved in the madness of this material world, to think about somone else.......for no other reward than the joy of it.



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thank you Carvall for your wise words please by all means share your thoughts with us all u seem to be very wise!



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yes, i think it can be done. The power of thought and well wishing isn't just confined to in person interactions. Do you need to be in physical contact with everyone you think about?



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To heal via the internet?

Well, if the "wound" is entirely psychological and not physical/pathological, then yes, I believe that one could be able of "healing" anyone suffering, even via the internet.
It would not be nessessary, though, for the "healer" to be a (Psychic) Vampire...



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When I first met my now boyfriend it was over the internet and he could do something odd with my enrgy. It wasn't so much a transfer, but a stirring. I was skeptical at first, but after enough times one becomes a believer.



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I highly doubt..that healing energy can travel from a healer though the Internet , come out your computer and heal anyone..



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i think it is only possable to do that type of healing in person and it couldnt be done from over the internet. it is just imposasble for me to see something like that go on over the interenet.



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anything type of things like this for over the internet naaah dont think its going to happen



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it can be done i have done it before my self for friends. The person on the other end just needs to have the proper mind set and believe.



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I think it's more so just a distance thing....if they concentrate on that one person hard enough....I think it's possible



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ok, first ..... when one sends it is not using the net or the phone line .
it is thru the healer straight to the person.
second...It is not normally a drain upon the one sending dependent upon the modality.
third ... evergy does not recognize time or distance.

While hands on allows for more , distance is effective. Networking is even more so.

The manipulation of energy and the ability to change the vibration and thus the effect is possible.

There is a big difference in getting "healing" and being "healed". Nothing is a quick fix expect it to take time. It is not like popping a pill.



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well I feel the power of the MIND is a powerful thing and so is the power of SUGGESTION... there fore if someone actually Believes that it will heal or help them then it will.... Now however as it to actually heal or help what it is they want or need done that also is with in their own mind. I feel this is why the power of prayer as they say is so strong because it is something that you BELIEVE so Strongly in that it is working. Just my opinion



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I believe that it can happen...by doing that it I have felt it happen a long time ago by someone that was strong enough to send heat and direct it to where the pain was...So I believe that it can happen if all parties want it to happen...the power of suggestion as well as I guess the person being able to direct such power is what has to occur in order for it to work...



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our minds and souls are without limitations...the interaction we all enjoy in and through the vr is a exchange of energy... it changes our moods, emotions, desires, and need... we all are feeding each other... we can heal via the net...



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My honest opinion is I don't think that they can do that over the internet because I would think that the person has to be with the other to do anything.



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In my reiki studies, one of the things we learn is distance healing. I don't know how well it works (since I havn't gotten to that level yet), but to me it seems as though it is possible on some level at least.



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Distance healing is possible. The medium of the Internet is just something that you use as a means to an end. It's not healing over the internet per se, but distance healing while you're connected on the internet.



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i went looking for psi vamps and energy and this what i came up with so far.. i havent read any thing about long distance energy thou but here is the site i found if anyone is interested..

Vampires & Psi Matters



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01:54:21 Nov 19 2007
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I do not see how it would be possible to do that , i feel you have to be in person to be able to heal or feed. For me to be able to heal someone i have to be with that person.



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I am a Reiki master, and while it is easier in a sense to heal when one is close to the person. I never, say never. I have had folks tell they have been healed over long distances and I have had sucess myself with some people. The mind and the will are very powerful things, never rule them out.Simply because it does not sound logical in today's "norm"



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I think it is possible to do no matter the distance. If you can send healing energy and love to the other side of the world to help heal after a major disaster then anything is possible.



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04:33:18 Nov 19 2007
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you know i asked around with people i know who can heal and they said you can heal over the comp of phone by minipulating the energy in the power of the comp and sending it to the person you wish to heal.



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I do not believe it has anything to do with the computer. I believe if someone claims they can heal others over the internet, they might think that is the case but what I think it is, is just knowing of the person. I know it is possible to 'heal' someone who is not next to you by knowing of the person and knowing enough about them to be able to... I guess enough to pick them out of a very crowded room without trying.

But no, over the internet, like using the internet as a way to, is not possible.



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not saying that u can channel it through the internet just wondering if it is accually possible to share/exchange energy to heal others while over the internet with a great deal of concentration can one channel another person while they chat over the internet can they still reach them? and here is another question can it be done over the phone?



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22:54:02 Nov 19 2007
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what i mean as NOT USING THE INTERNET AS A TOOL! like for instance u use the moons energy No just wondering if u can channel someones energy throught the interweb! but not using the interweb to do so! just on ur own not sure if that helps lol IS THAT CONFUSING TO U GUYS?

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well hugs love ya hope i didnt twist anyones brains w/ that last ?! ^_~



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23:54:42 Nov 19 2007
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I beleive that if a person concentrates they could take the power of there comp for all it is, is another form of energy and back feed it to another computer alowing them to heal the person at the other end useing to comp or the phone as a tool seems very possible to me.



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Perhaps your right HollowXangel..It can be the power of suggestion that heals...If you believe many things are possible..



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i ahte to be the pesimist here, but its only because of my experiance. psychic vamps general dont heal from what i've encountered the take energy rather than give... but healing over the a distance is possible christians have reported doing so with prayer. pagans have done it in this way too and with spells. but healing is mosteffective when a person is right there next to you.... that way the energy is more focusedand more direct



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I agree with Stabb fundamentally. The internet allows people to connect with one another personally and forge bonds, but just as one might send energy to someone who is separated from them by great distance because of a pre-realized connection (love, family, friendship,) the conveyance of the energy would not necessitate an internet connection.



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The energy that's being discussed here, does not fall into the realms of conventional or scientific energy such as kinetic or potential - so is energy the correct word?



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i think that a person can heal a person from great distance if there leave there body to go to that person. they do not have to show themself to keep that part of them a secret. anything is posable if you put your mind to it.



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21:10:00 Nov 23 2007
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The INTERNET is a tool, used to connect . Healing through modalities that use energy such as Reiki, is done through time & space. Also one can infuse healing energy in a note/letter and then sent through the Net. When the intended person opens and reads it, they will recieve this energy. Same can be done with a picture too.



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21:52:24 Nov 23 2007
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To literally heal over the internet?

That's very odd, I highly doubt that is possible.
It's often hard to get across what you mean in writing, with the lack of tone of voice or facial expression.
How does one pass mental power of the internet?

nah



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07:00:31 Nov 24 2007
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As far as healing by using your own energy. I would not think so. What I could see happening is the power in your words to help the person bring out something within them to heal themselves.



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08:14:56 Nov 24 2007
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I believe it's possible. After all, usually all that is required is some kind of tie to the recipient, and the internet is no different than any other type of tie. That's just my opinion :D.



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Energy is best transmitted when in close proximity to the person, whether touching or by directing energy outwards through the hands a few inches from the subject. Psy vamps can absorb energy with less limitations on proximity, but the unusual act of giving energy takes far more concentration and proximity. Healing over the internet may work if the healer is directing external energy, such as through song and having the subject meditate. This influences the subject--by redirecting the subject's own energy purposefully. Here, it is a matter of expertise at control rather than ability to transmit energy.



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As a Psy no we cannot feed over the internet at least I can't and I was born a psy...as for the healing I'm sure that can be done not real sure not a healer



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I'm not sure about it, I have heard of people giving healing long distance and I also believe in the power of mass prey.



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I personally think that anything is possible. However healing someone else through the internet does not sound very realistic. You would have to be a very strong willed individual with extreme amounts of energy built up in order to accomplish something such as healing a person over the net.



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I believe it is possible, as in sending out healing energies to a person and lighting a candle for them that has their name carved into it or annointed with the appropriate oil.



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well i feel the mind is very powerful and so you could do alot with belief.



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BLOODLIFE, if you are interested in classifying psychic energy then consider definitions of kinetic and potential energy as acting energy and stored energy. Like electrical energy it can be both. It is a form of energy that has not been recognized by "Science" but it is as real as a lightning bolt.



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Psychic energy has been know to heal or be drained locally or at a distance. The Internet, phone line, or cell phones can act as a carrier for its conduction. It is not fully known how distance healing occurs but it does. I have sent energy to others in need to help them recover.



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I believe that it can work over the internet. It's all about the power of suggestion. Mind over matter. If you can make the person on the other end of the computer believe that your healing them then it is ore likely to work.



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You can certainly heal over the net, especially if you have an affinity for technology. I have an affinity for electricity, and so some of my wards on my home are created within the building's wiring system.

I visualize it as my hands close to the keyboard, the energy flowing out of my hands and being directed by the IP routing backbone to their computer, flowing up into their hands, and thence to the rest of their body. It's not a long-term solution, but it can and will hold people together temporarily (a couple of days at most) so that their own body has the space to work on the long-term healing or so that they can get to someone who can do in-person healing work on them.



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10:14:34 Nov 29 2007
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It really shouldn't matter where the other person is located, if there is enough info on them, such as picture, voice or possibly even a name. Some Healers can locate their patient regardless of distanc if they can tune in to any one or more of these things.

A true name gives the recipient much power over another where either Healing or Magic is concerned. The vibrations of your name will resonate with a part of that which makes you.......you, in my opinion.



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ok-----i think we should heal me over the internet---to put an end to this question.
any takers?



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Well, I had been talking to a friend of mine and she was extreamly ill. I just thought of her and sent her healing energies, and she wrote me saying that all of a sudden she felt better. I told her that was awesome and she knew I sent the energy to her. She of course thanked me for the help.



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Bloodlife, I think that "psychic" energy does fall into the realm of kinetic and potential energy. There was a question somewhere else about the possibility of thought not being energy, to which I answered that energy is basically nothing more than cause and effect.

It requires three things - two objects and one focrum. Object A connects with Object B at the focrum, but in order for Object A to get to the focrum it will require a push (or force) from yet another object. So we look at it like this. The stimulus sends a message to the brain which generates a thought. This thought sends a reaction either back to the original stimulus or to another object. One of Newton's laws regarding action/reaction.



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