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There is another new TV show on claiming they catch EVP's Orbs and "ghost" images.They make the claim they can see sense or see these "ghosts".Do you think they can and or deal with these subjects as reported or is it for ratings and fame?
Also do you believe one can record EVP's on tape or digital recordings.I have my own opinons on these subjects,but I would like to hear others.

Unlike Ghost Hunters ...that debunks alot of "hauntings" Paranormal State says that all investigations are of real and each one none were fabricated.

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I have to say that I believe they can. During a New Years Eve party I hosted, 12 years ago, we caught something on the videotape. It seems to be female.

I think if you have the right equipment you should be able to see anything.

Do you think that if you had a high res digital camera...video camera etc...would you try to capture the fore mentioned images and try to prove they are real??

ive caught voice evps on a recored in my house... they were pretty cool.... so yeah i do know it can be done and its interestting when people try and debunk stuff like that......but as for pharanormal state i dont really like that show much id rather watch ghost hunters they seem more real......

I believe that these things are true. I have seen things that make me believe and I would love to have the equipment to actually record it.

I do love that show though!

Paranormal State's Cast take themselves too serious,thats why I have trouble watching it...they film the show like a documentary...Ghost HUnters is more laid back.If you can capture EVP's on digital Recorders and images on film/digital then I would have to see something for myself to believe it...But Im keeping an open mind.

I guess I would have to agree with you there. You don't have to be quite so serious. I think they do though because of the content of the show and the sceptism associated with it. Ghost hunters is a bit more fun.

Enjoy and hopefully you will have an encounter one day. Is actually exciting when they do happen.

I don't think that they can be caught on tape or film; I also believe that the shows just produce pictures of such for the ratings, and to make it look like they actually caught the paranormal on tape.

I think a lot of things that all t.v. shows are for ratings. They want to draw people in and capture their attention. Although I do enjoy watching 'Ghost Hunters' and shows of that nature, I don't believe any of it. I find it funny when they all of a sudden hear something, or see somthing, and of course we at home cannot hear or see the same thing.

I totally agree. A show on TV means very little it is all make believe. I do believe that it could be done in real life but wat is on tv is all set up to drag us in to watch the show.

the show is just for fame cause you can't really record a ghost it is a shadow from the land of the dead which can't even really be seen at all anyway and if you do see them they are usually trying to kill you for your body so that they can come back to life

I think that they want to see or hear something so bad...they start to "believe" they saw a shadow or heard a voice.The so called "orbs" are just balls of dust flying around...not a spirit manifested by the people around them.

Sounds like a cool show. I believe it's real. I think you can indeed record EVPs on tape.

I have not seen the show yet but some friends of mine have and they believe it is all real.

As far as EVP's they are real Myself and some friends do EVP's all the time and we do get voices to answer us

It doesnt even have to be digital cameras. I had a picture taken from a camera that used film at my uncles wedding. There seemed to be what looked like a relection of an angelic looking being off of a brick wall and I dont believe Brick walls reflect light

I'm normally a bit of sceptic, but I have managed to capture orbs on photo's I've taken before, using a normal digital camera, nothing fancy.

I have watched the show and I am not sure what to think of it yet ... as far as EVP's i know they do work at times ...

I think the show is enhanced reality, what you see has been graphically enhanced. There is an element of a religious quest by the leaders of the team which literally demonizes aspects of paranormal activity. Although I have had encounters with spirits or ghosts myself, I do not believe that electronic devices record the sounds of realm of the spiritual.

I believe they can record EVP's on tape and have seen it...

I never believe what I see on television, however I do believe that voices and images really can be seen or heard. It's just that some guy sitting at his desk thought "we could make up a lot of those and make them into a TV show".

Rev. Ravyn

I haven't seen much of that show but I do believe it's possible to record voices and such on EVPs... I've heard it before. And as for pictures, I do believe that it is possible to capture a physical sort of energy. Cameras have a sort of special thing about them, they can capture things that are not seen to the human eye... just like most animals that can sense when there is a presence...

Like on Ghost Hunters,I think the cast hears and sees alot of things that aren't there,only because they let their minds play tricks on them.Paranormal State irritates me bacause of how the leader does his voice overs...like it will be taken more seriously.Until I hear,see or come across anything paranormal...I disbelieve it...but I will keep an open mind.

On a side note...I did stay a weekend in a "Haunted House"Ten Years ago...never had anything odd happen...even though the residents "best friends family" kept "hearing" things.

I think they can, and have seen some things that have left you wondering and scratching your head. I am normally a pretty logical person so I will look for a logical explanation before I accept that its genuine. And I have seen things on videos, photos and even heard on tapes that shouldn't have occurred or been there.

I find their explorations fascinating, their methods solid and careful, and they do what they do without taking unnecesary chances. I enjoy the show immensely, and find it to be very informative.

I like Ghosthunters because they try to debunk things, but as all tv shows they are edited and we don't get to see all they do or don't. I believe you can get things on evp and video. I wouldn't mind trying to do those things with what I've experienced myself.

I do believe that they can be caught on video or still cameras, or on sound recording devices.

I don't believe most of the shows are real though. I think they're just jumping on the "next big thing," so to speak.

I think for now it seems plausible that they could actually get some results, but I think we ned to wait a little longer to see where it leads and if we will get acurate info or simple hunting soap show.

they need to stop maqkin shows like that they r goin op end up losin alot of money

If it can't be seen does it then become less real?

For instance, just because we can't see atoms composing the structure of molecules which then in turn form solids, liquids, and gases does that mean that atoms do not exist?

If one accepts that some things are seen and some things exist without our ability to see them, then why not believe in the so called 'paranormal'?

I am totally convinced there are other dimensions than ours and we need to accept that alternate realities exist.

More power to the show.

Like I said before...Im keeping an open mind..but the guys on Ghost Hunters tend to le theri minds play tricks on them.If they wouldn't psyche themselves out before going in..they might actually see what their minds make them see.Anyone want to take me to a "haunted site" and prove they are real...Im game.

With the right equipment, and the right frame of mind, you should be able to see and capture these images, love.........the right frame of mind is just as important, if not more so, than the equipment is

I try to keep an open mind on alot of things..until I see it or prove it wrong.

SithPadawan~~you can see atoms by using a molecular telescope.

But I think these shows play up a lot of the scenes. I also believe that some people that claim that they have the gift just want to see it so badly that they actually think they are.

i agree. If you believe in something so bad, you can actually make it real for yourself.

I believe it can be done but I don't think these shows can properly portray that. They sensationalize things too much.

Here is a link I found very informative. You may want to check it out.

www.ghostpix.com/gis/E.V.P.html

I had some speculation especially when it comes to hollywood because they will do anything to create ratings. Than I did some of my own researach and after reading some information on this I found a great article LINK and my first account of speculation is confirmed... I really doubt that they would take the time and money to create a show but you cant discount the deep pockets of some. I think that the majority may not be as acurate as we may want to believe.

I am sure you can record noises on recorders much like EVPs. However, the trick is being able to rule out nonparanormal elements such as a plane overhead, echos, light distortion or refraction, and general sounds from an old residency.

Do any of the shows actually end up proving the exists, or do they usually debunk. I haven't seen any that end up saying yes, this place is haunted.

id like to believe in it but im still a septic.... im still worried that it could turn out to be fake..

On Ghost Hunters...they debunk alot of it as lights...other noises or just nothing.

They debunk but they also agree that some places are haunted. I have had personal experiences of my own with ghosts. We do a lot of ghost hunting ourselves, too.

In addition to numerous great orb shots and some mist, I had an EVP that was cool. It was a very deep voice that I caught while recording. It was scary and way cool. I wish I knew where that tape was.

I'd have to agree, Ghost hunters does disprove some of the so called sightings. It is just at times the show gets overly dramatic.

I agree,I watched a repeat Wednesday,they redid the lighthouse haunt...as they were climbing the stairs...they were like...can you hear that??Supposedly children talking..but all I could hear was them talking.They replayed the recordings later...nothing.

The difference between the 2 shows that I have noticed is that ghosthunters looks into haunted places and paranormal state goes to the most haunted and demonically haunted places. The ones where people are in physical danger of attacks and have had scratches bites and very bad things happen to them in whole.

Ooh .. a two part thread :)

On the first topic ... Paranormal State is similar to Ghosthunters - except they attack from the other point of view.

Ghosthunters goes into a place that is supposedly haunted and tries to debunk or rule out paranormal as normal.

Paranormal State goes into a place that is supposedly haunted with the mind set that "this place is haunted".

What I do not like about Paranormal State is that it feels very fake and if you pay attention to the show and not get wrapped up in it - you will see this.

It's odd to me that a camera man can point his camera at exactly where a paranormal activity is going to happen ... before it actually happens. That is very suspicious in nature.

I also do not like the fact that they go into haunted places to find out what is going on - and as soon as something happens - they go running for their lives.

The show is also thick with Christian religious tones. I'm sorry - but contrary to popular belief, there are less than a dozen priests in the world who are trained and permitted to perform an exorcisim - and Paranormal State is doing them almost weekly.

I do not want to say the GH is not scripted in any way - but knowing that our senses can play tricks on us, I appreciate their approach to debunking over those that take one's word.

Now ... as for recording EVP on a tape or digital recorder. I'm not sure if your question is clearn - considering the first part. Are you asking if it is possible to capture an EVP on a recording device .. or are you asking if it is possible to fake an EVP on a recording device?

In either case, I would say the answer is yes.

I believe that a sound recorder (either tape or digital) has the ability to capture a sound in the "white noise" that we cannot hear at the time of the recording. It is just a belief since I can think of no scientific reason for that to happen.

I also believe that you can fake an EVP. In the days of tape recordings, it was common that if you re-used a tape, a prior recording could bleed through into a new recording and present as an EVP. Digital is even easier to fake with the amount of technology that is available to most people today.

i love the show .. do i believe its all true ...seems a liitle far fretched to believe one crew could encounter so many diffrent activities and yet many of us can go a life time without encountering one..

as for evp.. ive heard once captured on tape by a friend of mine and although difficult to make out 100% what was said there was def something there.

I believe they can be recorded.i think alot have been even if at times they was so small in size that we really never paid any attention to them..could have though it was just some random noise or something.

I have watched this and I am not sure what they are attempting to do.

First, I lost respect when they named a demon that they were fighting and that it was attempting to possess a man and they claimed they performed an "exorcism".

Secondly, watch their camera man, he tends to know what is going to happen, where. So the camera is there to watch the lights go down or a light trip, yet the camera's they post, don't pick up anything.

Thirdly, these people are chicken shits. If the Ghost Hunter's hear a voice, or get touched, they stay and investigate. Try to debunk, try to find evidence. I remember these folks were sitting in a graveyard and one was touched and they went running. Another time they were in a mining cabin that is supposively haunted. They didn't stay because they heard voices and things.

Sorry but I don't have any respect for someone who claims the lord with protect them and then run away, acting quite unprofessional by running from what the people have asked them to come and investigate. Not very reassuring.

I know what you mean...in one episode of Paranormal State...a "priest" kept saying he felt a chill everytime someone said a "spirit" was in the room..they had a heat sensing camera on him...he was sitting in front of a window that was letting the cold air in...you could see all the blue around the frame of the window.

I don't watch Paranormal state, but I do enjoy Taps. They seem like down to earth people. There in't any of that running about and screaming. and 9 times out of 10 they debunk most of the reports.

I do believe in these things, i've caught strange things on cameras...heard things i shouldn't have. I think it all depends on faith. its unknown. that's why its paranormal.

They take themselves too serious on the show...but I wonder if they actually prove anything they investigate is a true "haunting"...I myself have seen flaws in all the episodes I have seen.

I have been wanting to catch an episode of this show. I did catch clips of it.. do not think it is what i hoped it would be ... but I will give it a try

IF they were able to catch some thing on film it would be purely chance. At best even in well known areas to have heavy energy its very rare to in fact catch a glims of them when actively looking for them.

I think with the right equiptment you can catch things that can not be seen with the naked eye.

I have yet to actually see this show myself but a freind of mine loves it and she told me they seem to be fairly accurate / wether or not this is true remains to be seen

it seems to be

I think its all just fake. And I also believe its not possible to catch such things on tape or photo.

I don't know about evp's I think it is more possible that they are just background noises or crossed radio waves in the air. I have seen things on film though that I can't explain. Most of those shows though I think are more for ratings then showing the real things that can and do happen.

I watch this show and think it is really good. Seems to be alot better than ghost hunters

Well I do believe that people can record EVP's. Some of the t.v shows are fake but then again some of them are real so you never know if they are telling the truth.

I believe it is possible to pick up images or sounds of things. I am not sure however if they are ghost, spirits, or just left over residual energies. Energy I believe can linger for quite a while after someone has passed. So I am still up in the air about what it is that we catch when we take a snap shot or record something.

I am not really into intentional attempts at recording EVPs. It is much more dramatic when you record "human like" forms, or sounds when you aren't trying to. Like when you take a photo, and something shows up that you didn't notice was there.

I think they are real, and caught accidentally.. I don't put a lot of faith in the TV productions though.. spirits don't generally make casting calls...

i think that ppl can sense ghosts but im not sure if they can capture the noise or wateva. the shows on tv i do believe that they are doin ervrything 4 ratings n ull neva kno until it happens 2 u

given the chance to do evps and put them on tape would be amazing thing and then have it proven by professionals but i have seen and heard thing in my own life that i wish at the time i could have recorded at the time because it would deffinately prove that ppl can see ghosts but as for both show i do like them but they don't spend enough time in an investigation to really find out if they are real the only show is most haunted that due an investigation to the max in my opinion only...

I believe that EVP's can be real. But there are also some that are faked

yes that is true also specially when tv is concerned ...

My original question was...do you think they are too serious on the show and do they really catch what they say...on tape and audio?I don't believe they capture anything nor do they prove themselves as valid hunters.

I like the show, even though the whole aura about it is considerably more grim and serious than others. I do believe that what evidence caught on the show is valid.

I am not so sure that what is caught on the show is real, but I do believe that it is possible to catch it on tape with the right equipment.

It is a good show though.

I thoroughly enjoy both shows.... and take them both with a grain of salt as the saying goes. So much is done for ratings; however, there are things seen and heard on both shows that I do believe.

But then, I do believe in evp.

there will always be skeptics but yes i believe

that show looks so fake

i agree with theunknown

No opinion of your own??

I know from 1st hand experience that e.v.p. can be recorded.

i've never seen this show

I don't believe these "ghost hunters" are actually picking up on anything paranormal most of the time

did everyone get to see last weeks episode i thought it was a real good one but still i think i would like to have more experences on these reality shows and see if it is only camera tricks or if it is real.

I think its a little ridiculous. They have far to many effects the whole way through and they get a bit dramatis at times.

I think a lot of the T.V show like this are usually fake, you can't have results all the time.

Personally I think what they do is fake

I don't think its really fake...I just think they are a little to jumpy and jump to a conclusion a little too quickly.

I don't think it's fake, because I see them react to things, etc. But I do think they take it a bit TOO seriously, as in drama and so intense, like a movie. Yes, it is a subject to take seriously and with maturity, but you know what I mean....They just.....I don't know how they are. haha....It's not the same as Ghost Hunters on Sci-Fi but that is cool. You need different ways of checking the paranormal out. We ghost hunt too and differently. =)

Honestly with this day and age its hard to tell, im guessing there show has more to deal with the more socail call to see more things like this and ratings of course im sure place a huge factor. I cannot say if they have the ability or that they are good at there job but i believe someone who is truley good at there hjob wouldnt be able to concentrate as well with cameras watching there every move and for them to be able to find more sitesing that they find to be paranormal unlike Ghost Hunters who have found some, but admit that some are easily explained. Or maybe they are too good who knows, it sucks that the media has taken something so deep and trashed it, like almost everything else

I believe it is possible to do such things,if one is possessing the right techology for it, and of course, a high education regarding these thing.

The human mind is a powerful tool...if you WANT to hear or see something...your mind can manifest it.

it is possable that it might be true but it sound to much like the other show to be anything more then that.

this thread has been posted on many different counts here on the public forum. However, to answer your question, I think that 50% of them are actually true findings and the rest are just fake. I believe that there are people out there who receive these spirits' calls, but I thiink that there are also people out there who are just trying to make a quick buck...

Ghost Hunters does their work for free...or so they say.

but Paranormal State charges for their work.

I have never seen PS,but I saw GH once.About a lighthouse..it was weird to say the least.I do believe that at one point,someone is going to get something recorded that is undisputable.

A buddy and I have gone to haunted cemeteries and local places that are supposed to be haunted, but we've never been able to record anything on video or tape.

I've watched the show numerous times. I also watch most haunted .. on the travel channel.. I'm just a paranormal junkie. Would love to find a local group and go on a few investigations

paranormal state is ok. very serious. i like ghost hunters better.

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