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I read somewhere that the crow is linked to the Vampire and also to death;What do you know of it and do you believe it or do you think that it is yet again hollywood?

Crow is linked to courage and power.

I began looking for a link to a raven...lol

The Crow...you may find this link quite interesting.

https://www.vampirerave.com/post.php

ooops LOL...or even this one..lol

www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20000702crowmythology2.asp

well why not a group of them is a murder lol

Through out history the "Crow" has been linked to magical powers by many different societies and Hollywood has asociated the "Crow" with the occult in more recent years.

i think hollywood might of had some thing to do with it but there could be some thing there

Hmmmn thanks for the info.peace

Its rumored may be wrong a crow holds some unatural powers specially flying over a fresh grave as to steal the soul.

this could be like to do with the crow movie...
or is there actual folklore involved here..?

malky, not every thing you hear in the movies is bullshit.sometimes they actually do put real folk lore in the movies

They are eaters of the dead, scavengers, and thief's, and are intelligent and socially connected as a group, more so than some of the other birds. So it would certainly seem to those unknowing or unlearned that they were birds of evil.

isn't "real folklore" an oxymoron? I mean, the folklore is really folklore, but doesn't folklore mean its only part truth and part myth? or something like that. NEwho, I think most of the hype in modern vampire times (good name for a "dark" newspaper) is mostly hollywood and the perversion of the name of vampire into mindless, unfeeling, inhuman, pale, light-hating, murderous, creepy, unromantic creatures of the dead. Almost none of which are true.

Crows are scavangers. Kinda like vampires and death? So yea I think they're linked in one way or another...

And folklore isn't bullshit?

Depends on how you look at it. In Celtic culture, the Crow is the symbol of the Goddess, Morrigon..or Morrighu` however you wish to spell or pronounce it.. She is the goddess of steel, warfare and often the harbinger of death. But on the other hand she is often seen at times the protector of children and the innocent. Morrigon would often appear to her warriors and Generals in the form of a crow during a war, letting them know she was watching over and protecting them. It is said those she appeared to never fell in battle.

My point is this: I don't see the crow as associated with vampires or anything Hollywood has put out. I think that people are easily led, and believe what they want to believe. I don't exactly believe the folklores and myths about certain animals either. I am a you have to see it to believe it kind of girl. When I see a real vampire, then I will believe it. When I see a God/Goddess or the Devil, then I will believe it. If a crow or any other animal shows that it isnt just an animal. then I will believe it. Same goes for werewolves, demons, gargoyles, dragons, unicorns, leprechauns and other mythical creatures and deities.

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Folklore isn't bullshit. It may be bullshit to you, but it is not to the people who believe and live by it. It is reality for them, just like some things are reality for you that other people find silly.

Thank you for that actually, folklore makes up whole histories handed down through time of a persons beliefs and cultural thinking. It is a history passed down through the generations.

Crows and ravens (same genus - Corvus) have been thought to be associated with death or harbingers of bad events in many cultures. Some Native American tribes associate them with death. With the genus name "Corvus" one also wonders if someone didn't make a leap from that to Corvinus???

Good point you raise there alchymst. Crows have long been protrayed as bringers of death and destruction.

I've never seen the movie "The Crow" so I don't know what you're talking about,sorry.

my grandparents had superstitions that made me wonder how they could ever leave their house, but there was one about a crow being perched on someone's house meant that someone who lived there would die soon...much like their other 100's of similar superstitions that involved doing laundry on new years day and leaving your hat on a bed would result in death

I remember they had some connection with death, but for now I could find that crows are "Carriers of souls from darkness into light".
That is for him being as an animal totem, what I think comes from Native American belief about totem animals.

"The Crow" the movie was based on the Graphic Novel...Hollywood had nothing to do with the storyline."The Crow" the movie became a "Cult Classic"because Brandon Lee died while making the film.

As for crows being linked to "Vampires"
it is believed that crows were controled by them after death..or when villagers buried a "vampire" crows would appear at the grave site.

I wasn't aware of that belief. Interesting thought though.

I read it in a book when I was younger...about Vampire Myths and other oddities...something or other..was awhile ago.

well in some culture it is believe the the crow is what carries the soul form this world to whatever is after what that has to do with vampires i not sure

I don't see an immediate link between crows and vampires.

There isn't really a connection. Crows tend to be ... loud and obnoxious.

not sure if I believe they are linked with the Vampire yet our Amer. Indian heretiage connect them with death and destruction so maybe that is a connection in a sense because people believe that the Vampire represents the same .. who knows, anything can be possible.

lol.......Crow linking to death? yeah ok.

http://www.crowbusters.com/begart15.htm

Quotes from the above listed site:

Crows have been used for the purpose of divination since the time of ancient Rome.

Finding a dead crow on the road is good luck.

Crows in a church yard are bad luck.

A single crow over a house meant bad news, and often foretold a death within. "A crow on the thatch, soon death lifts the latch."

It was unlucky in Wales to have a crow cross your path. However, if two crows crossed your path, the luck was reversed. "Two crows I see, good luck to me" .

In New England, however, to see two crows flying together from the left was bad luck.

When crows were quiet during their midsummer's molt, some European peasants believed that it was because they were preparing to go to the Devil to pay tribute with their black feathers.

Often, two crows would be released together during a wedding celebration. If the two flew away together, the couple could look forward to a long life together. If the pair separated, the couple might expect to be soon parted.

In Somerset (West Country of England) locals used to carry an onion with them for protection from magpies or crows.

The French had a saying that evil priests became crows, and bad nuns became magpies.

The Greeks said "Go to the Crows" the same way we would say "Go to Hell."

The Romans used the expression "To pierce a Crow's eye" in relation to something that was almost impossible to do.

An Irish expression, "You'll follow the Crows for it" meant that a person would miss something after it was gone.

The expression, "I have a bone to pick with you" used to be " I have a crow to pick with you".

As stated in an earlier post

a group of Crows is called a Murder of Crows.

no crows are not linked or even associated with vampires

The crow has nothing to do with vampires

blame hollywood

I know that ravens and crows have been looked at as bringers of sorrow and death , however , in the viking culture they had a slightly different belife . Odin had 2 ravens memory and sorrow ( may have mis named the second one ) they scouted and saw things for him .

One for sorrow, two for mirth, three for a wedding, for for a birth
I have noticed that crows alert you when some one is coming. The wind will also pick up alittle, and the trees will rustle. check it out some time.
I love crows. I don,t notice as many here where i live any more. Could be westnile virus, or ust less trees.

Crows have also been known as messengers. I too love crows, I see and hear them on a daily basis and have had this happen for about 4 months now.

I have heard that crows are messengers but I think them being related to death and the occult is a Hollywood thing. I loved the movies though lol. I just think that part is hollywood, but I could be wrong.

Not all folklore is false some may be false, some may be partly false and some may be true. I have not heard folklore linking crows and vampires until some listed in this thread. I would not presume though to say there isn't any since I know that there is a lot of folklore in the world and I know for a fact that I have not heard all of the folklore in the world.

The crow... Scavengers over a newly pasted soul... Messengers...

I've never heard of the crow being linked to vampires.

it is related to it ....but holly wood has made it go that much farther

it is related to it ....but holly wood has made it go that much farther

I have two crow feathers that were blessed by Elders in Taos NM. They're hanging in my healing room. Definitely not about death.

By the old tales my Grandmother always used to tell me, the crow is in charge of taking the souls of the dead in to the underworld.

I understand this might vary from tale to tale.

see now I thought that was the Raven.......I could be wrong, I need to swat up on my mythology...
It was a crow or a raven that was sent into hell because of his brave but stupid attitude to find out/or bring back something (I so can't remember the story). But it was said that since then they are less likely to fly off when 'man' is around.
another great link...
www.ravenfamily.org/nascakiyetl/obs/rav1.html

That is the first time I had heard the crow linked to vampires. If this were a cow lovers site, maybe it would be linked to them too. :P

Jamie!!! haven't you heard of 'Daisey' the vampiric cow.


I think the mistake is easily made as both crow and raven are of the same family and similar in appearance --- it's all about size..lol

i have always felt a connection with the raven and death.

I don't know about linking to the vampyre.I beleive that the crow has a special sense of death, since it is a scavenger it feeds of death and has a keen sense about where death is.

anythng is possible and who is to say it couldnt happen ?

sachamoon "THE CROW" movies are great .. I remember there are to movies of the crow..

funny everyone seems to leave out that they are also a familiar.

I think Hollywood has blown everything out of proportion a little bit.

Depending on your culture they have different meanings. Because of their dark plumage, and nerve racking calls, and the fact they eat carrion, they are linked to be the harbingers of death and doom.

Some religions believe the crow or raven to be the symbolic event of death. The transition into the afterlife.

Crows are also believed to have some psychic ability, due to them being black, since the color black is associated with "the abyss". (Wikipedia)

As to a crow being linked to a vampire, I have never read that anywhere. But I have heard it a lot.

i also think hollywood might of had some thing to do with it but there could be some thing there.

I have always associated Crows with Witches who practice the dark arts. It was thought that the Witch could see through the eyes of the Crow. Of course,the Crow wasn't the only one that the Witch may have used.

i wouldnt think there to be a link between vampires and crows.i could beleive that maybe crows are related to death

I just can't see the link between crows and vamps.

There is a legend that a crow will not go near the tomb of some Yugoslavian Vampires.If I remember right.

I have heard that the crow is a lost spirit or soul...

The crow isn't linked to death at all. Its about as linked to it as a fluffy pink unicorn.

I dont really think they are linked. It more because they are so black and death has always been linked with black. It the same as a Grandfather clock if it beats 13 times someone dies in your family. Could happen but more of a folk law.

The crow is definately a powerful and strong creature. Linking it "only" with death would be very short-sighted.

The crow has been linked to the Otherworld for quite some time....the semi-recent linking to vampires may be mostly Hollywood there.

Hollyweird at it's finest.... The Crow was pretty good show though.

The crow is suppose to be the spirit of the dead that is waiting to move on. Or a lost soul .

I'm not sure about all that but I have heard all my life that it is very bad luck to kill one and if you do the bad luck or bad karma will follow you forever.

I think that a Crow is linked to Death because of superstitions... Other than that and what others have stated I'm not so sure. I've just read that crows are associated with bad luck.

The crow, like the raven, is associated with the protector, Mahakala, so I think it would be just a Hollywood thing.

this would be a case of the movies again the crow and beinv vampire have nothing to do with each other

I have never heard of the crow being linked to the vampire...If you've heard this somewhere I would advise you to consider the source. A lot of concepts make for good movie plots heh.

blood life that artical was great i really liked it and i guess you are right ...want to know more thought dig deeper...

I posted this in the post about ravens...I think they're just birds, lol.
However, both crows and ravens appearances might mean something when seen in dreams? Maybe something vampire related?

I hadn't heard of them being linked to vampires, interesting thought though.

I have heard of the crows escorting souls to the other side.. or back to this side as in the movie kinda thing.

But the first thing I remember being taught Crows stood for was they are the keepers of Sacred Law. The ones the teach us to walk our talk so to speak. And like the raven they deal with change as well.

I read alot and so far never have seen it connected ,, something for me to look into .

If we want to go all Hollywood, then sure the crow is linked to the dead. But in none of the movies was it related to vampires.

If we look at literature and perhaps zoology, we see a creature that eats prey- and what easier prey is there than the almost or newly deceased.

It doesn't mean that there is any spiritual connection necessarily. Nor does the crow indicate the likelihood of a grave opening up to a vampire clawing its way out.

I've always been told that the crow was linked to souls and death, but never the devil.

I was told that a crow is the person's spirit put into the body of a crow until they find peace in order to move on.

I think crows are assosiated with death because they are scavengers

I think Hollywood exaggerates on a lot of things. They do this for entertainment purposes.

I really don't think the crow is linked to anything in particular, but everyone is going to have their own opinions obviously.

I think its just because they are scavengers, they'll eat anything like vultures. Also the fact that a group of them is called a "murder", why that is I have no clue lol

in my oppinion crows are only just one of the smartest urban birds alive.i think that hollywood has just glorified them

Smart how?

I have heard of crows and other birds carry the souls of the dead to the other side. That's just one way of getting over I guess. But I have not heard anything about crows and vampires.

Sounds odd.. o.O

I think that's just HollyWood talking

I believe the 'talk' has been around longer than Hollywood.

"Talk" might have been around for ages, but that cannot confirm a supernatural connection between the crow or a ravyn with death. We love to infuse nature with a mystique that rarely is founded in anything other than speculation.

although not all crows are known for this, there are many crows such as the Common Raven, Australian Raven and Carrion Crow have all been known to kill weak lambs as well as eating freshly dead corpses. So this may be one of the reasons that people associate crows/ravens with the dead. But this is not true for all crows... some crows each strictly grain and other substance as well.

That ... is creepy. =P

Indeed Nocnamora... it is very creepy and quite disgusting actually lol. but hey, without these creatures to do this dirty job, then how else would it get cleaned up? :P

A fat guy that needs exercise and a broom. ;-]

LOL yeah but where would it all go?? :P anyway this is kinda getting off topic hehe :) anyway the point I was trying to make was that there is a reason that crows/ravens are associated with death. I think that may be a partial reason and also that they are useful creatures in this world :) :P

Into skinny peoples tummies. ;-D


But that is an interesting theory. =P

Ahh thank you but Ewww! sorry I'm not into eating dead carcasses... lol I'll save that for the birds ;)

Lmao, or too feed Animals then. =P

Just because it feeds off of weak or dead creatures though does not make it linked to death. The wild is full or creatures that attack "weaker" animals to maintain their livelihood. We do not necessarily relate flies to death even though the swarm cacuses, nor do we think anything of a lion that attacks a zebra. It is the food chain at work and not a symbolic supernatural connection.

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