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Is there a more accepted theory concerning time travel? There was a time when flying was simply a theory? I don't think that anything is impossible! I believe that there IS a working theory for time travel!..it's just that it is not known to us at this point. It's just that there has been no mind brilliant enough to form the formula!

Einstein,i believe,only left more questions to the possiblities of what man could achieve! He was a brilliant man! However, he is only the link in a chain..so to speak. So, what are your thoughts on time travel? How close are we to actually achieving it? I realize that there are a thousand variables to consider! (what it would do the human body, for one)




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I highly doubt that we are close to time travelling just yet. Sounds a bit too far fetched at this point in time.



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I think the theory about time travel is just that a theory I dont think it is possible to make it happen just in Hollywood



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It would be kinda nifty to be able to travel through time, but I don't think we're nearly advanced enough yet to even begin to try and do it. It raises ethical questions too, like: what if you went back to prehistoric times and squashed a bug? would it change the evolution of one species?
What if you stopped a particular event happening? would the after effects be good or bad?
What would the effect be on your period of time be, if you went back in time? would you still exist?
So, my point is, at some very distant point in the future, if we do discover how to travel through time, we should make sure there are no negative repercussions of our actions.
Yes, I am rambling. But that's my penny's worth on the subject.


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Time itself reputed to be 'circular', thenit would follow that perhaps this could well be possible, as all that has been or is yet to be exists supposedly in the akashik records, so therefore we could assume time travel has already been mastered, in the as yet unknown Future, but if ever it happens, i would surmise any time travelers would have 'limits' placed upon them, being unable to interfere with History, more 'passive' visitors, so as not to 'alter' anything which has gone before...;)

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I have always been fascinated by time travel. Of course the paradox of what effect your presence have in the past has always been present in all time travel stories,
I think the only solution would be not to travel in time but to see images from the past shown in a screen, that way you see the past, learn from it, see what it really was, but you are still in the present and not able to change anything by mistake.



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time travel has as well been a intrest to me. into the past or into the future. but to know either is a trip into its self. to go back into time is a threat of changeing our present. to see our future would be a unsure thing. for the belief of what should of been. time travel is like worm holes in space. its a werid yet intresting concepts.



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If you can figure out a way arounds newtons third law, then you can get time travel theory working. Until then, its temporal wormholes only as seemingly random occurrences in space time as it exists on one of the 10 dimensions.



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Space and time are a fabric and they do bend under the forces of gravity if memory serves right. So, with a large enough force it would be theoretically possible to manipulate space time. The amount of energy and gravity needed would be unfathomable though.



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I did a small search on newtons third law as mentioned above.

For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

The statement means that in every interaction, there is a pair of forces acting on the two interacting objects. The size of the forces on the first object equals the size of the force on the second object. The direction of the force on the first object is opposite to the direction of the force on the second object. Forces always come in pairs - equal and opposite action-reaction force pairs


So if someone one day figure out how to separate the equal -opposite would be able to find a formula to timetravell??



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I think time travel will happen someday just not in our life time



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Hmm that might not be entirely true ;)

Every time I fly home from LA, I fly 8 hours into the future. Its better then nothing right? .... lmao



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mimiminx i guess u are right but i think that is streching the thing about time travel



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the human race are making amazing and terrifying progress every day with modern technology, but I think we will have to wait a few thousand years before we can do anything so grand as time travelling.



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LMAO BlackHawk I sometimes enjoy taking things literally for my own amusement ... lmao

However, It may be as close as we ever get :)



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LOl that was a good one miniminx, yet back to Time Travel. yes I am sure our government has the theory of it and even working on it. I mean they would be the only ones to get that kind of power generated to even perform such a task.

myself I would be more worried that they may actually put a Tear in the space and time element and create a much worst effect. There are wormholes and so much universe out there to actually pin it down to an exact science.... I am not sure I would want my molecules being zapped from place to place LOL Kinda feel like Scottie and Doc from the old star Trek shows,, be checkin' to make sure all my stuff is there.

Yet I do think it would be great if we could get an exact science on it and use it for emergencies to save people
just my opinion..



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mimiminx like i said u are right and then when going back from visiting u will travel back in time



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yep we just need a flux capacater and a delorian and we're ready to go (sorry if i didnt say it you know someone was gonna..lmao)



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LOL Exactly and I get to relive those 8 hours all over again ;)



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At this time in our lives I think time travel is impossible, but not out of reach for the future, we are still working with the theorys of this.



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I think that you could travel through time, but only through regression or taking the person into a deep meditative place and then try and help them to see into the future.

There are a lot of people previously who have achieved this so, I do think it's possible.

As for going back or forward in time in a machine, I don't think that will ever be possible.



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I think were way off time traveling, though i would like to direct you to a "Incident"

The american's were running a project called "Opperation Ghost" Aka The Philadelphia Experiment.
Basicly, they claim time traveled happened. Here's a link to Wikipedia. You can find more on google.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia_Experiment

Enjoy your research :)



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I wouldn't say no as we have accomplished things that were considered impossible before. I think it will happen someday just not anytime soon. If we could learn how to harness gravity .........



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hahaha woops. its the fouth law...

The fourth law of thermodynamics:

If a system receives a through-flow of exergy (produce entropy/dissipate energy), (a) the system will utilize this exergy flow to move away from thermodynamic equilibrium, (b) if it has more than one pathway to move away is offered from thermodynamic equilibrium, the one yielding most stored exergy, with the most ordered structure and the longest distance to thermodynamic equilibrium, will have a prospensity to be selected.



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I think it will eventually be possible...100 years ago people probably could not have imagined having a phone that you could carry a phone with you wherever you go, but look at us now...we have cell phones.



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As far as I understand it, and I have read quite a bit about this, is that the possibility of time travel can only include the future.

To go into the past, the ability for time travel would have had to already been invented. In other words, if you had a time machine that sent you into the past, there would have to be a time machine there to send you back. Which there isn't since it hasn't been fully invented yet. With that in mind, if we were to invent one now, we could go into the future because there, a time machine would already exist since it had already been invented.

Not to mention, going into the past (if it were plausible) could, if not would, create a paradox.

So if time traveling is ever possible, the future, as I understand it, would be all that we could see.



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Kip Thorne literally wrote the book on wormholes, which is so far the leading theory in time travel, and gives experimental evidence of wormholes. He's referenced by Stephen Hawking, the world's current "Einstein".

In order to cause the equilibrium Infernal referred to, one would need very strong Casimir Plates (which don't exist....yet). They would have to be made of an exotic material that we just don't have on this planet, or we don't have the technology to create at this point.



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To me time travel is just another myth and really shoull not be possible cause to many things can get screwed up by doing it.



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PantherVamp I don't think it is impossibble either but maybe just that out technology is not up to par to perform such things.



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But if you want to be realisctic about it we already do time travel in our heads about the future and past.



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technically we "time travel" everyday. sleeping pasts the time to quickly, and we progress everyday so....yeah. backwards time travel is not possible at this time though.



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I can't imagine humans traveling at light speed...but particles time traveling...



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i haven't even heard of a mathematical formula sucessfully presented that would logically prove the ability to travel in time, so i honesty feel that we are centuries away from that ability.


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time is just an allusion made by man.. time is mathmatically just distance divided by rate... time has no real value except what humans giv it



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time travel is possible...if you are a quark.



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This is part of an answer I gave a while back, it deals with the Grandfather Paradox. Hopefully it'll answer some questions.

Time travel has long held our fascination and the possibility of "what happens" has been at the centre of debate for a rather long time.

The problem I am going to talk about today is that of the "Grandfather Paradox". If you are unfamiliar with it let me explain it to you.

If you could travel back in time and accidentally killed your Grandfather, before you were born, how could you have traveled back in time to begin with, since you were never born?
In general, questions of a speculative nature are ignored by the Scientific Community simply because there is little way to accurately and definitively answer them.
However, this paradox has not been ignored because it’s answer(s) can help us understand the world around us and even how the Universe began.

For most of the time that this paradox has been known the "safe" answer has been simple, time travel is impossible. Today, however, we understand that time travel may in fact be possible via increased speed/energy and the new sciences of warping space-time.

There are two possibilities that may be both be correct.

The first answer is more logistical than raw physics but it’s simplicity is rather refreshing.

You build a time machine and try to go back 10 years, but theres a problem, you can’t. Why? Because there is no time machine for you to travel back to. You could build a time machine and wait 10 years, then you could use it to go back 1 year, 5 years or the full 10 but no further. Therefore you could never reach your grandfather before you were born because there is simply no means to get there.

The second can be a little more tricky due to the nature of infinity.

In the 3rd dimension time flows in a rather linear fashion, but with each action you create a negative possibility. In other words for each action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Because we exist in 3d space-time everything that we have done or will do is set and can not be altered but that means that there is now a parallel universe comprised of all the opposite actions we didn’t take in this universe.

Should we be able to travel back in time we may be able to alter events but at the same time those altered events will only occur in a new universe, our universe is set and can not be changed. The reason why we can’t change events in our universe is because they have already happened.

Both of these answers are correct, unless you build a time machine that can go with you then only the second is right. I hope that this brief writing helps and I’m certain I will be getting some questions so please don’t hesitate to ask them :)



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My question is this - what would you have to study to come up with those theories?

It is very far outside anything I would study.

But - I like to think that time travel would be possible but I also know that being human - we would be prone to mess up things. So am not really sure we should ever attempt it.



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The simplest test we've already done. Sending an astronaut into space while his twin is back on earth. They put two identical clocks up, one on the ship and the other here on earth. When he came back from orbit he was several minutes older.

Using Einsteins theories and others, we can use mathematics to help us figure it out. As well as observations of black holes and other super massive objects.



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Hmm, I'm not sure. I think that it is achievable, but whether it'll be achieved, I'm not sure of.
I think there's a higher power, a god, if you must, and I don't think any higher power in their right minds would let us mess with the concept of time. It would mess things up so badly.

I think it would have awful consequences, I bet it would be painful too. It would probably take a painful toll on the human body, or maybe even bring about the end of the world in some way or another, screwing up time... Who knows.



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Here is an interview with Carl Sagan that some might find informative. He briefly discusses the twin paradox, the grandfather paradox, worm holes, and a few other topics. Enjoy.


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Time travel has always fascinated me. The possibilities/what-ifs and all that.
There are alot of variables to consider, which most will realize once they really look into it.
One of the largest thoughts, as posted earlier, is the grandfather paradox.
If you killed your grandfather before you were born, before your own father was born, how did you do so? You obviously never actually existed.
One theory that was touched out in the same previous post is pretty simple, yet brings new questions into light involving time travel.
Every action, anyone ever takes, one way or the other, creates a "new timline:. In each one, things are nearly identical, yet slightly different.
So if you were to kill your grandfather, the world you would now exist in, he was killed/died and you technically don't exist. You basicly came from another universe.

Obviously, just the idea of that creates a whole new aspect of the universe and what could be possible.

So many possibilities with something so simple.



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I thought I saw something on tv about time travel and black holes. Someone was making tiny black holes and then there was something about going back in time. I wish I could remember...



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In "A Brief History of Time" by Stephen Hawking, he talks about the possibility of time travel. In specific, he states that at speeds exceeding the speed of light, time travel would occur. The problem is that we have yet to break that speed limit. While the particle accelerator at CERN can force particles to move at very near the speed of light, it has not yet occurred.

I definitely recommend picking up that book, it's killer.



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We might be closer than we think, since we have been able to reproduce gravitational singularities.



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I've always been interested in time travel too, as a kid. I do believe that it will be possilbe...not in our lifetime, of cousre, but in maybe another 100 years or so. This thread IS fascinating!



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We have been creating micro-singularities for many years, it's really not that hard. The problem is if you don't "feed" a BH(Black Hole) it will evaporate itself away. And these small singularities tend to vanish with in several micro-seconds.

You couldn't use a BH as a direct means of travel. The moment you leaped inside the event horizon is the moment your stuck. While you falling through the horizon you see things movings all around and then you'll die by being ripped to little pieces and transformed into quantum foam, among other things.

If you had a friend standing at the edge watching you fall she would never see you actually disappear because the time differences are so great. She could watch you for thousands of years and only see you drop a few inches.

For physically controlled and predictable time travel using BH's may involved whats know as a gravitational slingshot. Of course all that would do is hurl you through space at millions of miles an hour. To me thats not real time travel.

The notion of BH and WH providing transportation is nothing more than pop culture myth. Sure you can go into a BH but IF you got out you'd prolly end up inside the nearest star or vacuum of space.

If you found a WH and tried to go in it, it would collapse around you and you'd die.

The popular ideas of time travel are nothing more than comic book characters of possibilities.



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I would believe more in a WH than a BH, some scientists are speculating the Bermuda Triangle is a WH. Perhaps it is, not enough evidence either way right now. :)



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I hate to break it to you but we have well documented black holes :) WH are still in theory. In fact if you looked out at the night sky you could "see" about 3 BH.



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To clarify, when I said believe in WH and not BHs, I was referring to a means of time travel. I believe in BHs, but don't believe they can be used for time travel. :)



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I dont think we are even close to being able to time travel. I do however believe over the years as we get more and more techo someone will be able to make it happen.



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true, it takes me 30 minutes to get to work. If i drive to the nearest city it takes me 2-3 hrs if I catch a plane it takes me about 30 minutes so guess if you look at it that way we do time travel.



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i wont close the door on this just yet lol


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The answer is no. Unequivocal no. Not in this universe anyway (which is the caveat of the prior statement of an absolute). Particularly for what you are 'really' asking - whether we could move our bodies, at will, from one point in time to another. Our molecular structures wont even stay intact through the current linear 'time travel' we are all currently graced with. The energy of the universe around us will rip each of us apart in less than 120 years as it is. However, superluminal (faster than light) communication "might" be possible. Hopefully we will know something more once we start getting data from the LHC.

There are plenty of theories on time travel. Most of the "working theories" involve gravitational space-time distortions equivalent of several (if not several thousand) solar masses.

The nature of gravity is the big mystery. Discovering the Higgs boson may be the key to understanding that. When we truly understand gravity, we will better understand space-time distortions, holes, and curvatures.

With all due respect however- anything that violates the laws of physics IS truly impossible. The beautiful part about science is... we dont know all the laws yet! :-)

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Ibelieve time travel is possible through hypnosis



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yes time travel is possible

ever hear of day light savings time

at midnight or 1 am we turn the clocks back an hour reliving midnight again. thus going back in time XD.



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i think its possible but i think the answer lies in worm holes not some contraption some scientist will make



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We scientists have to make the contraption to keep the worm hole open, lest you be made go *poof* :) WH are very unstable and most are thinner than a hair.


Time travel doesn't violate the laws of physics, it simply goes around them. With enough energy and technological know how time travel is more than possible.

Whats impossible is altering the past or present of this universe. You can try but the only thing that will be changed is a parallel universe.



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i don't think time travel is possible i don't think we have technology that is advanced enough for that right now, maybe some day in the future but just not now



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nothing is impossible just unknown. in order to travel thru time you have to fold space onto itself and time as well, this requires a TON of energy, something we can not even comprehend. the amount of energy needed is more used by all the planet in a ten year time. . . so its not imposable just improbable



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the debate on if time travel is possible will go on forever untill proven, the better question is ...what would you do if you could?



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atyourwindow- That just the point. Even if time travel were possible we couldn't do anything but observe.

Think of 3 universes A B C

We are in universe A which flows AaaaBbbbCccc a very orderly and govern by laws.
Our current universe is set and cannot be changed but we can alter the nature of these parallel universe (x,b,c,x,x,y,y)


x x yy
b c
US

Because we are forever bound to this Universe we can only explore. If we try to change something here the reaction will manifest itself in another U.

Every moment trillions of universe are being created and destroyed. Some lasting a few pica seconds to several days.These universes are the creation of a yes/no question.
Depending on how many No's or 0 they get, the faster that universe will puff out.
Those parallel universe with Yes' or 1 can in fact go to create an entirely new universe. Granted it wouldn't last very long (a few hours/days). Changes can only be made to another universe..which will carry on the process.

No matter what you attempt to alter ( the present, past etc) it will only effect a parallel world. Remember our time line is set and can not be changed. The reason why it can't be changed is because our time line past, present and future have all ready happened.

**Again I have grando lack of sleep so forgive me if there are some questions**



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So how does one "simply" 'go around' the laws of physics?



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I don't see it happening anytime in the near future. But, thats not to say that it won't happen sometime in the future. Maybe after we are all gone & can't enjoy it.



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My theory is and it does sound stupid,

You need something fast enough to go backwards. So something like the speed of light maybe faster, then youll be able to go backwards, it sound stupid but is right. if you go fast enough you will end up going backwards.



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I think time travel will be a theory for a long while yet. Who knows what some scientist or back yard enthusiast is working on now.

I think if the future had time travel I think we would have evidence of it in the present. Well I think anyway.

As for time travel. I think it would be an interesting thing if you can look back at a time in history, like looking through a window where you can observe but not get involved. That I think would be an awesome thing. Think about it... going back in time to see heards of woolly mammoths or watch the egyptians build a pyramid.. watch the sinking of the titanic... It would be awesome.



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It would be cool to watch, but you couldnt do anythng or change anything because you would jepodise the future, future being the time now.



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Xzavier if I may ask Although we have the means to probably create time-travel I would strongly go against because what if it got into the wrong hands and all so something like that would be worth a lot of money too.



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Eienstien (sp) had the theory along with the study of quantim physics. But all still jus theory. Some things should probably be left alone.



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I believe the school of physics that states one can't travel in time to before the time machine itself was created. It would cause a paradox. There are a few theories involving quantum foam, and the "bubbles" between atoms. Supposedly, they're like little wormholes, and theoretically (VERY theoretically), if we could suspend and enlarge these, we could have personal wormholes in spacetime. The next speculative theory involves the properties of time and relativity. Einstein said that time moves more slowly for someone traveling at speed, so supposedly if one end of this wormhole was sent through a particle accelerator for, oh, say ten years, the result would be, quite literally, a portal to the past. Ten years to be exact.



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Can we come up with some websites for this post it would help.



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This book/site is what I was referring to in my post, if that helps.


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Because Space and Time are one continuous fabric, we might consider that our position within it as non-linear. As a result of that, I don't buy into the theory that if there is no machine in the past, then it would be impossible to travel to the past. That's assuming that we're not actually travelling with the machine, rather using it to propel us into the past.

Everyone keeps referring to Einstein and his theories, but he once said that this idea of a past, present, and future is an illusion. This is further supported by Hawking's "consistent histories approach" which somewhat validates Xzavier in saying that just because you can travel to the past doesn't necessarily mean you can change the future.

Hawking's statement basically says that you can't travel to the past unless it has already been determined that this has already occured. So, anything that occurs now or in the past can not be changed by a time traveler. If anything, it would require a time traveler to go back in time to ensure that his/her interaction with the past initiated the events necessary to create him/her as well as the appropriate events leading to the invention of said time machine.



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Well, let's see:

First, I don't see what Newtons third law should have to do with the impossibility of time travel. Just to make it clear, Newton stated that To Every Action There Is An Equal And Opposite Reaction. Sorry, no time in it ... So if you want to show off, first check your facts ...

Second, almost the same when quoting Einstein. Anybody here read any of his works?



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That reminds me of a paradox that my friend used to use a lot: You can't travel to the future and steal someone's invention and bring it back to the past. If you did, your stolen invention is bound to fail. After all, if you were successful with said stolen invention, then you would have stolen it from yourself in the future, thus eliminating the creation of said invention in the first place. Time is written and unalterable, or at least that's the theory I agree with. You can't change the future by traveling to the past, because your visit would already have happened. Rather than changing the future, you'd be taking part in the creation of the present that exists already. Thank you for the last post. I'd forgotten about all this stuff I just rambled on about.



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Blah, I should say thank you for the post by wolfsbahne(sp?)...



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SarraS- I see time all over that. You may still belong to the old ways of physics but every physicist I have spoken with fully agrees with my statements or have said the same thing in their own words.

Time is an illusion, on Planck's scale time, present and future are all connected and happen at the same "time". The reason why we have a functional universe is because of the time differential from that size to our ability to observe change.

Since I was 15 I have been working on the inflationary issues of the universe (Einstein couldn't answer it) and it's through that I have found one of the properties of time. (Time-Scale Differential)

At the moment we can't travel through time in any meaningful way but it won't take long before we can. There are even experiments using lasers to create a region of disassociated space where time acts differently in it.



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Actually, Sarras, yes I have read some of his work.... well, one work actually.

It was a bit difficult, and since I'm not a math person (or a physicist) I had a very hard time getting through the General Theory.

I believe, as he does, that the past present and future all exist simultaneously.



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Honestly, even if it was possible, I'm not sure it is something that should be tampered with. Think of The Butterfly Effect--everytime he went back to try and change something, something else happened and offset the balance that he was trying to make. Let bygones be bygones.



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"...according to Ronald Mallett, theoretical physicist and professor at the University of Connecticut, recent experiments slowing light's speed may make time-travel feasible. Mallet thinks he can harness slow-light energy and turn the future into the past."

I think thats an interesting concept.

taken from http://www.wonderquest.com/TimeTravel.htm



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I don't think anyone's ever going to invent anything like a time machine, for what is 'time' itself? That's a very philosophical question. Anyway, time 'travel', if you could call it that, is possible... different times can be glimpsed and there have been records of strange occurances where people seem to have leapt through time for a few moments without realising it, but no one has yet grasped how to do it on command.



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If I ever figure out how, I'm moving to the eighteenth century.



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I heard a story on TV about a man who skipped 30 years of his life when he went to go cut fire wood for his wife. i don't wanna rattle on about it tho



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I believe time travel is very possible. In 1993 IBM scientists proved that quantum teleportation is possible. Even Nikola Tesla experimented with the theory. There's alot of information, disinformation, misinformation out there that they are not telling us. It is up to us to research and find this information out.



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i dont think time travel will ever be possible not because we wouldent have the technology but because of the repercussions. If anyone went back in time i could alter so many things. so even if it was possible i dont think anyone would allow it just for the simple reason that no one could be trusted enought to have that kind of technology.



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time is always running and we are always moving, so we are fact traveling in time or time traveling



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we are always making new pasts, changing the present to the past, and leaving the present for the future, and turning the future into our present



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this is a topic that has kept me awake for days screaming like a mad woman now hear me out first off donnie darko is a real mind bender not nessasarly true but it makes you think .... now if time is liner fine but it is said that merlyn the magican lived backwards so


death rebirth
( ) now if we watch
birth death the butterfly effect
we see that one
mistake ultars the
future ....and if we
watch time cops we also discover people will go back to history to change events ....i said that would be great to stop the titanic from sinking but what if a mass murderer was aboard and he died and could no carry out his deed...time travel is a double edge sword with pros and cons and somewhere i belive we can jump back in the middle of that line and be reborn and that is where we learn our past life regresstions



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WwwwowwwW!
Time Travel!

Who wont like it...
I love it...
But I can't do its projection except one sample test of forevision...

It is possible...

We all do it many time in our life in dream which we remember and normally much more than that we do in not remembered dream...

Some do it in astral projestion too...



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Planar possibilities and alternate universes are created from what I have read. That each 'possible' outcome creates an alternate universe. If you 'time travelled' back to change something the butterfly effect would most likely happen and any time wave form would alter all of those possible universes and thus destroy time as we know it. There is probably a hole there somewhere but that is what I came up with in the five minutes I thought about this.



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hmmm the past present and future already determined?......kind of discredits itself if the time line can be changed assuming time travel was possible, ok now i have a headache lol....but ill admit this thread is my favorite at the moment, many different opinions on the subject.....just for the record i dont believe in a static universe.



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The parodox of time travel...which many here call the grandfather paradox is simple to explain...

Much like the remake of The Time Machine...his girlfriend had to die or he never would have invented the machine to go back and try to stop her death.
The Butterfly Effect is somewhat different in theory...there is a paradox there as well...if you change something in the past...it will change the future but I doubt you would realize it and try to change it again.

Think about it this way...something happened to you as a child that you wish you could change..thinking your life would be better then it is.Ok...bam time travel is now possible and you travel back to that point in your time and change it.At that instant...the future you would vanish.Why...because that you never existed because you changed that event in your life that the future you never liked....thats the paradox...If that one event never happened then you had no reason to go back in time to change it...but if it never happened...you had no reason to go back...and if you never went back...how could you change it.Going back to The Time Machine..his girlfriend gets shot and he mourns her loss by discovering time travel and then continues to go back and prevent her death...but she dies anyhow.If he had stopped her death...he would never had discovered time travel and been able to go back and stop her death....that is the paradox of time travel.



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DarkWolfman
Your post was very very interesting and it really got me to thinking. Everything maybe happen with a reason and to go back to that later in life to change it would change whole life. Good writed.



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atyourwindow - A static universe taken at face value would assume that the universe doesn't move, which we know that isn't true. It is expanding at an exponential rate. When I said that I believed as Einstein - that past, present, and future are all happening at the same time - I neglected to address the idea of a static universe.

If we observe the universe from outside of it (something impossible to do if we think that the universe consumes all) we might be able to view it as a globule, constantly folding in on itself. This would suggest a linear timeline, but it really isn't.

Knowing that the fabric of space is not just space but also time, then any point within that globule is also a point in time. So, consider the center of the globule as the past; the meat of it, the present; the outer most layer, the future. If it's constantly folding in on itself then we have all three states of time occuring at the same time and no longer a static object.



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i myself don't think that in our lifetime any of us will ever see it. if it can be done at all.



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Um I beileve somewhere in quantum physics it states time travel is potentoinally possible, but dangerous. I do beleive it even describes how a portal could be created in space to make it work, I will have to see if I can find the documantation again, it was interesting reading.



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donnie darko a good movie for time travel and a mind blower to say the least



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GRANDFATHER PARADOX--What it is, is it real or not..?I've already answered that a few posts up(sorry for the caps) :)

As tempting as time travel may be, to alter the current time line, is all but impossible. The only thing that could change are the alternate universes.

Someone mentioned that a butterfly effect would end space and time as we know it. That is incorrect, the vast majority of parallel universes die out after a few micro-seconds. The ones that do last are of course another universes which means they are NOT connected to this one. So when we traveled through time the universe effected by our actions would be the one we just made by time travel.

As for the time line already being established and unalterable it is because time is linear (in this universe) if some how you could manipulate the 4th dim. then perhaps you could unset the time-line. Honestly the numbers and nature of it all is so incredibly complicated, to the way we think, it's little more than fun to speculate and do simple experiments.



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well said wolfsbohne, the event horizon of a black hole once past that point and going into it is thought for time to slow down however no one has proven this its also thought that information is recieved and kept in a manner of speaking inside....if this is true then it may very well be possible but not for a human to pass through it but to send and recieve info at the subatomic level that is , hawking radiation the residule given off a black holes event horizen one atom at a time was just a few years ago theory but now is a proven fact....and yes stephen hawkings coined it....brian greene has a few thoughts on the subject and is not at all convinced its out of the question, a direct relationship between gravity and light is the key to unlocking the mystery...now im on about 2 hours sleep so forgive the way i put all this but i think with further study it may yeild results in the future.



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you will always run paradox going forward or back



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I think Healer made a pretty good point. Technically we are always time traveling, just not in the way that this topic is referring to.



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Here is a good concept that gave me an "aha" moment after reading an interview with Carl Sagan.

People always use the term "flow of time."

What does time really flow past though? Past event and occurances? If thats the case, then aren't you essentially using time to define time in a way? Isn't that logic flawed to a certain extent?

I'm sorry if that came off as confusing but the entire concept is confusing as a whole because we don't know enough black and white facts about it in my opinion.



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I think time travel is far from becoming a reality right now. We haven't even discovered how to travel long distances in outerspace yet. But I believe one day in the distant future we could accomplish time travel.



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My Uncle convinced me time travel was possible, I jumped on the back of his moving truck at a gas station, he told me" I will Knock YOUR Ass into last week if you ever try that again."



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One thing I did hear is that one could never travel forward due to it has not taken place yet, but I have heard that going back is possible under the right circumstances.



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I remebering there being a show on Discovery Channel I think it was about time traveling. Not there yet but know scientists in the process of working on it. It would be pretty cool to time travel. But then again there that whole don't change anything or might change the entire future thing.



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Well our celestial body (astral bosy / spirit) is free of time bondage it can travel any way. I have dreamt many a time to colonies of 250-300 years old in my dreams. those inbetween planes makes passage to our spirits to desired or undesired directions may it be past or future or present. its all sensational. and quantum theory still a hypothecated and not the real as teh universed said round globe is hypothecation. yes its hypothecation. I challange you which scientist so say its not hypothecation. Its stil hypothecation in the world scientist meet. and all these are taken from spiritual science. even third law of newton is taken from spiritual sciene and many laws such as relativity etc are taken from spiritual science afterall its all science. and spiritual science says time travel is reality and possible.



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If we could make a airplane that traveled the speed of light, it may get very interesting indeed!



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Well, for it to be possible there would have to be a curve, so to speak, in the lining of the universe as it were. But it's said that through a worm hole it's possible.



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Using something I came up with afew years ago to explain time travel to my stupid (literally)brother.

You are sitting in the cab of a truck....driving on a highway....you look into the rearview mirror and that is the past...the cab of the truck is the present...the road ahead is the future.

He still didn't get it...but yes technically you are traveling forward in time...every milisecond.



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I don't believe it would be possible. I think what is past is past. We are always moving into the future, and aiming for a better source of info, but I highly doubt time travel will ever be figured out. Once time has turned you can not go back.



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Hello coven mate Panter!!!!!

I can believe it. There's SO many things the government is hiding from us.

I saw a thing on the Discovery channel about Einstein's theory and the book "The Time Machine".

And a time machine HAS BEEN created, but it can only go back 1 minute. This guy took a bite of an apple and put it in the machine and the chunk that was missing reappeared and then disappeared after a minute.

I couldn't follow all of what they were saying, but it also had to do with the speed of light ...........and light years. If you can find the episode. Power to ya!!!! My mom has it recorded, so I'll have to watch it again.

Same thing with nano technology. They are going to create contact lenses w/ televisions in them (bad idea! Couples already have trouble w/ communicating, and we have to many car wrecks as it is!)

Nano-paint. You paint a spot on the wall w/ it and voila!!!! You have a television. The ultra flatscreen!!!

They already inject people w/ nano-bots to eat away at tumors and repair blood cells. They inject them w/ a suringe.



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quantum machinics explains the theory that we are in a few places at the same time so why not?
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It would be nice to travel back and tell ones self don’t make this mistake, but time travel if possible is also very dangerous, I mean yikes you could run into yourself and return later to find the meeting made you Looney.



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I would have to say no. Only because what has happened has come and gone. Its not like we are all running on someone Hard drive on their computer and that data is saved.

I think the closest we would get is residue energy left in a place from a past event.

Something that I think would be possible and is sort of like what your asking would be different dimensions or alternate reality's if you will. They maybe in the same time phase or developmental phase that we are or maybe they could be 1000's of years more advanced or behind our own.



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Possible? Sure, in my opinion, anythings possible. Time travel theories tend to give me a head ach though. Lol. According to Steven Hawking, it is very possible. We (humans as a whole) are not advanced enough yet to come up with the tech needed for such a thing, also, one must also ask the question of whether or not we SHOULD go back or forward in time.



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I don't think that there is an actual way to travel thru time as in a time machine, but that is my opinion. I do beleive that thru meditation you can go back in a regression though.



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I do believe it's possible to travel into time..
But not with a machine or anything..
It's all in our brain, we just need to learn to use it..



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Time travel, like all things, is possible. Harshly complex and complicated, however. One would have to take GREAT VIGILANCE to not interfere; no matter WHAT they saw. You could prevent one terror yes, but another will ALWAYS take its place.

The prospect that the future being so terribly horrifying, i.e. the "end of the world" or "apocalypse" might be too much to bear.



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I dont think it is ok for example the thought that time would break and the galaxy would implode upon it self theory you break a cup go in the time machine to stop yourself from breaking the cup and succeed would that X out the need to go in the first place ???? if you stop it from happening then there wont be a need to go back ....



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everything happens for a reason, there is no need for time travel, because someone would fuck it up. everything happens for a reason if i wasnt like this then i think time travel would be redily availible.



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I do not know if time travel is real or ever will be but if it was in my time I would love to go back to s few different times to change things like my oldest daughter dieing or visit my grand parents more or visit my husband grandmother who was a wiccan shaman and keep her things in a food pantry and when she died her sister burned all her things to hide who she was . i would tell her this and ask her to teach me all she knew.



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The theory of relativity proves, in a way, that time travel is possible (the twins paradox); but can we actually travel in time as in the sci-fi movies? I believe that in a way, we can... Scientists believe that the black holes are an answer to this... But what good can come from time-travel?



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