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It is a known fact that at least 2 people have died on the toilet in the house i live in. the toilet has been replaced both times for reasons unknown ...when i been under the influance of certain meds i swear death is walking towards me ...i look at this shadow creature and say iam not ready yet i have to many responsabilitys and i cant go now and i breath relief when i leave the bath room. it seems now that even not on meds i still see this creature lurking near the bathroom only when iam seated on the toilet. could my bathroom be a porthole to death via toilet?

death does not seek the places, it can take teh person even from the temple, so why it is sacred most. well if toilet i strange experience, you must do central focal point practice it will remove all the fear of strange and makes you strong most. but its set of two exercises and preparation require one more exercise for at least 5 days and those five day you msut be doing meditation too in the middle of the room no stranous light and no strenous darkness. and yes you have to keep your guide angel or mother Merium, or Jesus or your own God's stature or photo or embossing just out of the lavatory and youmay keep it inside bathroom and this will keep you out of spiritual fear till you have not passed the 8 month of the set. you must have one medallian in your necklace containing the pendle of your god or guide angels or Jesus Or Mother Mary so that with that you even can relax in the toilet fearless.

i shall try these things you suggest and take seriously the thoughts of no fear ...i have always stood up to it but till it removes its self i have to admit its good thing iam already in the right place to pee my self giggles

I doubt you have a haunted toilet. Many people have died on the toilet, Elvis Presley did! When people are having bad stomach pains they can confuse it with needed to go to the bathroom, and huzzah! kick the big big bucket we call life.

i know what i see and feel ...it makes me wonder if death has certain hunting grounds to take people ...as i know for a fact many have died in this house alone not just the bathroom but most were there are other places people will not approach as they know if you go there you will surely die there is a chair in england that who ever sits in it dies in 3 hours afterwards.. so what about the idea of certain hunting grounds for his victims?

Have you thought about having the room exorcised. If your belief allows for that.

never gave it concideration ...i believe in banishment but not exercism ...i would say they are the same but the methods are a bit differant but i never even thought to do that i just been dealing with it on a daily basis i shall smudge the room and cough up a banishment spell and hope it works i need to do some reading make sure i got all i need so i dont run into any brick walls sage and salts candles and incense and bells with lots of chanting yep that may do the trick

omg wow ummm like an entrance to hell lol the angel of death takes you through the little hole in the toliette Oh my what an imagination we have :] smiles

hallusenagens can do anything to us lol

heart attacks unexplaned deaths that are natural and just so happend to be in your bathroom do u havea fear of dying on your toilett perhaps that is where this is all comming from your jsut thinking too much about it when u go to the bathroom your taking that "didja fall in" phrase a lil too serriously

smiles perhaps you need a priest to bless your bathroom smiles.

THE POWER OF CRIST COMPELLS U..

May I ask, Do you have report documents of some sort to account for the deaths in your house?

I know it's not a terribly popular approach here but before jumping to conclusions regarding the supernatural or paranormal, it's best to take a look at the naturalistic explanations.

I'm not sure if you're saying you actually detect this supposed shadow creature with your eyes or if by "see", you're talking more about sensing a presence.

At any rate, the toilet is not a dignified place to die but it is a rather popular place to die and there are purely naturalistic reasons for this. When the body's systems begin to shut down it goes into panic mode and one of the first things it does is purge all non-vital processes. This is an attempt to save energy and resources to combat whatever condition may be leading toward death. One of the first systems to be shut down is the digestive system and before restricting blood, flow, ceasing the production of digestive enzymes, providing muscular movement to the various organs etc., the body will attempt to purge the digestive system. As you can imagine, most people will take notice of this and if they're able, they head toward a more socially acceptable place to perform this function -- the toilet.

Put slightly less delicately, they feel the body attempting to purge the digestive system and this causes a need to go to the bathroom. So they attempt to take care of the situation as would be expected. But if the body is unable to recover from the condition sending it toward death, they will continue to die and they'll do that wherever they happen to be, even if it's on the toilet.

If you suffer severe trauma and then throw up, you're likely to be in a very serious condition.

(Armstrong - 2009 TdF)

Well I have heard of people dying on the Toilet, yet they died due to cardiac arrest from constipation, the heart muscle can take alot yet it is know to happen when someone is constipated and strain to *Boop* they may and can cause themselves to have a cadiac arrest, and therefore Dying..

I would really check into the cause and reason for the deaths, but hey ya kno wenything is possible .LOL good luck with that one.

LOL omg some of the answers giggles like a child

my grandfather was one person who died on the toilet in the house and when my mother rented the house out to someone their mothe came to visit and she died on the toilet all i know is the toilet has been replaced ...yes i do have a fear of dying as i have to fight for every breath i take i have lung disease and i fought off 4 types of cancer iam 41 and no stranger to death i feel like he is lurking for me and he is gonna take me he hovers just by the bathroom door and makes me tense as hell

Is this toilet in Graceland? No but seriously, that is some creepy crap (no pun intended) Could be your house was built on a place of negative power -- I know nothing of such things, but if temples and the like are built on places of power, why not a home? I've watched Poltergeist enough times to believe the possibilities! Hollywood has not steered me wrong yet!

Back to the previous deaths in said bathroom -- both happened on the toilet or in the bathroom? Were they different owners or related to one another? Did they have medical conditions? Was it a homicide? A death toilet is intriguing and funny at the same time, but it's giving me good questions to ask...

okay, so, without trying to sound cheesy or smarmy.


you probably are sensing the spirits in that bathroom of those that have passed on. the room has essences of death in it...get it?


going as far as to say your toilet is a death port-o (potty) is actually and honestly taking it further, than it should be taken, you know?

the toilet was changed after each death yes the 2 people died the same way no they were not related my mother owned the house for the last 50 years sooo ... the condition the people had is referred to as beagel and something happens to the body and all your organs fall out off your arse as i stated b4 one person was my grandfather and i know this to be fact and quite frankley iam afraid

*shivers* First, I suppose chekcing with your doc to make sure you are in good health would be a good way to go... Second, I was wondering if there are any other rooms this presence is felt? Beast gave an excellent explanation.

i believe in banishment but not exercism for say and i think someone already asked that before

Well you know, I have been deathly afraid of port-o-johns all my life... but that's because I was scared it might splash back up on me o_O

Yes I know you have lung disease.

But you can over come it with breathing meditation andcan remove fear with meditation with center focal point.

i meditate and smuge my house reliously i try to stay focused and iam not the type to scare easy

Toilets need replacing periodically. As a wife of a Maintenance Supervisor for a huge company, this is a common discussion. HOWEVER>>>> I am not sure that a toilet can be a portal to anything but the sewer.

Well Well Well i must say i have seem some quite humorous answers on this thread and as far a "deaths toilet" well since the creator of this thread is my best friend i do believe her stories are indeed factual and quite possibly a toilet could be a death portal after all things that usually wind almost always as if something died!

CryingDutchess,

Re: "Beast gave an excellent explanation. "

Thank you. I was beginning to wonder if anyone read any of it before I found your post.

I've spent most of my life in one form of public service or another and that includes working as an ambulance attendant. I've picked up more than my share of people who have died on toilets and it's perfectly natural event with a perfectly natural explanation.

I've seen people die of heart attacks, motor vehicle accidents, gunshot wounds, crushed larynx, airplane crash and a significant mix of other mechanisms. Dying on the toilet is extremely common and there is a well-understood, perfectly natural cause.

(Armstrong - 2009 TdF)

besides the deaths in this house ...why do i feel doom ???when iam sitting there why can i see this shadow ??? and it seems to back off when i address it.

well as Kryptlove and Beastt17 have mentioned there are alot of people whom die in the restroom hell Elvis did even, there usually is an explaination for this one I do not think a toilet could be Haunted or cursed... I mean maybe a room or house etc... yet it is not uncommon for someone to die on a toilet / or on a bathroom.
I know Kryptlove works in the medical field and she had told me like Beastt17 there are alot more deaths in the bathroom and on toilets than some may realize ...

Bearing down, the contraction of your muscles when having a bowel movement, is called the " valsalva maneuver". This stimulates the vagal nerve which causes the heart to slow or skip beats; this then may cause a lethal heartbeat and death, especially in aged persons. Toilets are usually involved, but have never been implicated in the deaths.
With such a history of the bathroom in question, it may be that those who died there on the toilet my be causing the feelings of the originator of the post, frightened with a sense of impending doom. She is being manipulated by her fears, as she is stalked by her own death.
Avoid the afflicted bathroom and use another. Good luck.

If there was something speaking to me or i could see something while I was on the toilet I would either get a new toilet and if that didn't work I would just move...

Yes well if I happen to come by a toilet of death or see things when ever I happen to sit on it. I think I will just go to the convenient store and use their convenient toilet that doesn't kill me. I don't plan on going like Elvis...

maybe its an angry spirit because i see no reason for death to be lurking in toliets...

maybe you should look into the history of the house or grounds maybe it could answer any questions

it is true many have died on a toilet yet I am not sure if it has anything to do with ghost or spirits or a haunting

I know if I thought it did I would have the whole bathroom redone or blessed or something. Yet as I said and as the humorous posting show it can be caused by straining too hard and cause a cardiac arrest in some. unfortunately...

oh damn a deadly toilet. Stay away from the chili.

Just my cracked up sense of humor.

as far as the haunting perhaps its not the toilet but the bathroom many people find peace in a bathroom and there for do ceremonies there. perhaps something in the past has done that.

You say that the other two people who died on thetoilet died of a disease.... maybe since you keep seeing this shadow thing and you feel like it is death just waiting to get you it could be a warning. Do you think it's possible that this thing you see is more like a sign that you have that illness?(In which case you should get checked.)

and just to be safe I'd try leaving some holy water in the bathroom for a few days.... (unless u don't believe in that kind of thing.)

princesskayd1 might actually be on the right track. maybe you see the shadowy figure because "he" is trying to warn you. Or, it could be your Grandfather trying to warn you. Perhaps thats why it backs away when you speak to it. Did you try the smudging yet? Did it have any affect?

And despite every ones joking about it, I do think it could be a portal of sorts. We do not know everything there is to know about death. The house may have been built on an old Indian burial ground or even a grave of a traveler back in the days when people were traveling west . Oh, you know what I mean. Anyway, anything is possible. Good luck with this phenomenon.

perhaps it has to do with the energys suronding the area more than the item...

by the way in australia since 2000, 8 ppl have died on the toilet.

I don't know, I might be that they just happened to die on a toilet, not a very nice way to die, i wouldn't want to die on a toilet, but i think that it's just were they happen to be when the kick the bucket

yeah i agree with kikei

the 2 deaths are just a coinsidence!

but you yourself my be open the the spirit world and are getting visits from past lives it just happens to be all coinsidental

MistressOfShadows,

Re: "by the way in australia since 2000, 8 ppl have died on the toilet."

Do you have a resource for that number? I'm not doubting you, I'm sure at least eight people have died on toilets in Australia in the past 8-years. But I'm fairly certain the number is far, far higher than that. It's a very common place to die and for purely natural and understood reasons already presented and discussed.

"Anything is possible"? Perhaps it's a catchy phrase, though that would be an opinion contrary to mine, but it has no basis in reality. Many things are not possible.

Exceed the speed of light.

For some reason (?) my earlier post was deleted - not sure why, as I wasn't making a joke. In any case, some here have suggested a cleansing - I suggested feng shui, which is somewhat similar.
(Feng shui is a lot more than just interior decorating)...

If the toilet was replaced after each death, the toilet itself can't be a portal of death ... that really only leaves the pipes.

I think all the sewage pipes are joined together house-to-house, so any portal will be shared by all the houses. I don't think that this is reason why so many people die in or on the toilet though

People have to die somewhere, when people feel ill they head for the bathroom and (even in normal use) they put lots of different parts of their bodies under strain.

I'm not sure if people the world over will know what an airing cupboard is (very small room containing the house hot water tank, with shelves so clothes can aired by the heat that escapes the insulated tank) ... I am sure that very few people ever die in there - but it doesn't follow that, by living in the airing cupboard, you escape death or it becomes a portal to prolonged life.

I am fairly sure its just a statistical thing and any creature is to do with something else

Well, from my standpoint, a person that has panic attacks, I believe that some of that is from anxiety over your health and fear of what could happen. I have this shit too. You know, our minds and bodies go nuts when we are in anxious mode. And it's not always when something is happening. It strikes us even when we are just lounging.

I know about the body wanting to relieve itself when it's running on adreneline. I have lived it much of my life.

The ghostly aspect could be that you are feeling the energy of what has happened. But I do not believe death lurks like the show, Dead Like Me. You may feel that way because of your grandfather and the woman. I am fearful of passing away and so I understand. I don't see it as a death port hole though or a haunted toilet.

There have been studied regarding when you die, there is a detectable release of energy. Some believe that to be the soul, but also, some of that energy stays in the room. With enough deaths in one room, I believe that there would be enough of that overflow of energy to cause some "vibes" in the living.

I think spirits get stuck in certain places. maybe they had died there themselves and is mad people keep going inthere.

burn sage!

Okay ivorybliss could be right...look into that...but as for a portal...I dont believe so

maybe do a little history check... maybe smuge the room with sage and say a few times u do not want who ever is here to be here anymore and to please go away..

Noirtist,

"when you die, there is a detectable release of energy."

I'm curious, do you have any kind of references, links or support for this?

I wish I did, it was on one of those documentaries about the paranormal, but I don't remember what it was called.

you could be seeing those that did die there you maybe more able to communicate with them. I don't think there is a death portal in your bathroom and I am sure it is just related to the two people who already died there

does anyone else find it funny?


anyway why dont you try hanging a cross above your bathroom door and whereever you saw the shadow have that place blessed

i think it merely a fluke that two people died on the toliet... and the creature you are seeing... is all in your mind... meds or not... you know people have died there.. and by fear you believe you will end the same

jamie i think you may have hit it on the nose along with some others yes iam very afraid of dying and my health is about as crappy as one can get at the nice age of 19 i started with my first round of cancer and sence then 3 more leading to lung disease and a scarred shut valve to my heart causen me much grief ...the bathroom just seems to be this place in the house where i know fact that 2 people have died and yes i may have a bit of a over active imagination but i also have some senceativety to psychic nature may be the two are over lapping but it is a bad deal when you got to ask someone in the house to walk you to the bathroom or hold your hand and beg the entitys not to take you yet ....yes i smudge on a regular basis and ring bells it works in all rooms except the dreaded bathroom i refuse to take a bath in the tub with out my trusty seasalts ....for pitty sake it a natural body function and we all got to go sometime i just dont want to be another statistic to this house

Maybe the bathroom is haunted by bad spirits. Just a thought. But I have never heard of this before. Do you get a bad "feeling" like, "I don't want to go near the bathroom" even when you have to go?

The strenght you give such things is the presence you feel, your house is yours, it is a place of comfort for you. Live in this world, and get out of Limbo, such focus leaves you in limbo, carrying luggage that is not your own. Create something, invite a friend over, don't tell them about what you feel about your house. You are alive, the people you refer to are dead, don't slump in the static.. death stalks you.. is that what you feel? You are given entropy the advantage not only over your body, but your mind as well. I light a candle for you, a beacon from Limbos Portal, please do not dwell there.

Something disturbs you, does it have to be something as grand as death, or spirits? What else disturbs you? Those little things add up to feel like something much larger.

That is very strange. Have you tried getting your toilet/bathroom blessed etc. You may be seeing the people that have already died in the place. If not I would be getting out of there.

You state when you are under the influence of meds. This is stacked against you, stacked by you. please for your health, live. Air out your house, change the furniture around. Stretch out your body.. dwell upon such things, and the imagination will play along, you will tense up, and the anxiety will haunt you more then any "ghost' or "entity" can.

I don't know him personaly.....but I doubt the Grim Reaper hangs out in bathrooms, seems like a series of events and circumatances dancing in your head.

it is OK actually to let people know you are depressed, I tried to blame my depression after my break down on everything but my frazzled nerves. I know you have gone through some harsh times, and you made it, celebrate your recovery.

well quit the meds!!! no,, jokes aside ,, try to purificate your bathroom with (sauge ) look it up in english you burn it and let the smoke into the bathroom anciant civilisation tought that this plant was good to keep demons or spirits away !!!

you said the toilet has been replaced each time, its more the room is haunted than the toilet, not that would help much lol sorry

evidence that even the Grim Reaper has to take a dump every now and then?? ...

and that it might be a good idea NOT to be sitting there when he DOES need to?

Its your loo, tell them to get out, try some sage, as someone else stated, you give the power to whatever is around. Fear feeds on more fear.

I have to agree with Ahava - fear does feed on fear...
Remember the line from Dune - "Fear is the mind killer".
So, do not feed the fear. Cast salt in the corners of the room. If you want you may smudge, Sage and Cedar. The Native Americans believed that where Sage and Cedar dwell that nothing evil can. This is why their dwellings do not have corners.

i can say ive never heard of anything like this before ahve you thought of placeing salt or sage in the corners of the room?

maybe death is still waiting for someone who lived there before you and he's not smart enough to understand there gone.

I forgot to mention before there are charms spells and hexes that you can do to protect yourself from that damn toilet! Find a witch both well hearsed in white and black magic.

I am sorry. I did not explain well enough. The salt is for casting into the corners. The Sage and Cedar - are for smudging. Native Americans did not have corners in their dwellings as they believed evil spirits could find hiding spots there.
The energy could simply be congested there also. Clap you hands - if it sounds muffled, than it is congested. If when you clap it sounds crisp or sharp - then it is clear. This is one way of deciding if indeed there is something to be delt with.
I hope you find this helpful. - Bright blessings

I have never experienced such things myself, but my daughter was very troubled, frightened by a "dark presence" in our old house.. neighbors confirmed the house was haunted. So I called a preacher from a local church.. he blessed the house then he spoke to her, very literally about how to banish "bad spirits" ..He said the thing to do when the presence if felt is to say aloud something like "In the name of Jesus Christ, I command you to leave here!" and the evil spirits had no choice but to leave. It worked!

Well perhaps someone that had died on the toilet is haunting the last place they lived. But your right you are in the right place to be scared lol.

I cant help but to get the feeling that fear is playing a trick on your mind. Sorry I dont want to step on your toes here by saying that.

Well Thou Must not get dubbed into fear of any evil...

its karma will not act on you...

you just do banishing...

have statue of mother mary and jesus in front of you and just behind it sound ly write on wall may be on portrait "Oh Great God Come God Come...

below that


Aha God came, God is with us...


now light good light candle and nice perfumed buds in front of statues kept on table...

Now feel total sphere and universe as god and you are in that universe in the heart place...

you make offerings to the God before start of the prayer... God you must visualise three way, one as total universe (this way total universe by the grace of God will forward its forces to help you) second type of visualisation is as light... this will eneble the finest light fill in your whole house invisibly. third way as the space (space within everything in wall in sphere in materials in plates in glasses in beings everything have space and visualise each space is filled by the God as finest light. in the hwole universe.
ask the God with its helping power of whole universe come and stay in whole house and extend the shield to the house....

same way visualise mother mary as feminine and jesus as person and call them in the house to clean and shield the house...

Now third turn ou recall your all helping powers of the universe to come and stay to clean the house and bless the whole house... and if possible, the building...

now stand firmly in attention in front of the altar ( or you may do this in sitting position too...)


put offerings on the coal to all your side good forces of the universe (offerings must be pure vegan ) including the God, Mother Mary and all other helping forces...

AND DURING THIS OFFERNGS OF LEAST 60 MINUTES

thou must make prayers in the row to all these forces to clean the house and building and toilet and make it free and clean forever from any evil and future and forces...

during this whole process at least three more good family persons or friends be with you and they must be praying or keeping mum on the matter and mrally must help you.

This will definitely work...

coz during the 60 minutes the powerful prayers and if you wish more powerful, then oh god bless me oh jesus bless me oh mother mery bless me this you speak 108 times or 201 times here few peepal do rhyme the god as Om Namah Bhagwate Vasudevayah 1008 times...

A cluttered house with bad circulation, can seem to be oppressive to the inhabitant, opening the congestion, perhaps even changing the furniture around a bit will lift some of the stagnant pockets through out a domicile.

Ever since I was a little girl I've been scared of the shower drain. We got it replaced, eventually though. To the day we replaced it I still HATED being in the bathroom alone, because I kept expecting something to come out of the drain. It was irrational, and I felt silly for being scared...but once we replaced it, the fear totally went away.
I don't know what was up with that, but your story kind of reminded me of that.

Maybe, since multiple people have died in your bathroom in that exact same spot...maybe the presence of death has just lingered there. I don't think that necessarily means you'll die.

me personaly i beleave that the people who dies in the bathroom some how new they were going to die so they
sat on the toilet because when people die they have there last bowl movement and they wanted to spare there family the berdene of having to clean the mess up.

maybe its not the toilet
it is commen for people to sit on the toilet in there lol
but maybe its just that room...

I doubt it's death portal. I myself think it's probably extremely coincidental that it's happened.

I know that sounds really weird but i think its only a cociendence or however you spell it.

i beleive it might just be the room
maybe have a clensing done

id change the toilet...and cleanse the bathroom really good and say a little chant/prayer

maybe the toilet is seeping gas through and that might be the reason you seem to see such things,i dont think it is possible a toilet can bring death but as someone with a open mind..i do believe anything is possible.

It seems extraordinarily strange..... but I suppose it could happen. If there is another toilet in the house, I'd suggest using that one out of preference, but if there isn't, I don't think you have a serious problem.... unless you make the toilet mad.

I'd hate to think what someone would have to do to piss off a crapper...

I see many, many repeat answers about cleansing, chanting, sage, salt, and purification rituals... that and of course "it's all just a coincidence." This discussion has run its course, and I'm RIPing it to reduce further duplicate answers.