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what is more power powerful- a spell you have created, a covens spell, or a spell you have had passed down in the family? why do you find this more powerful?



i find the spells i make my self are more powerful, they are made for me, and have what i need to make them work..

A group working in unison can gather more energy and send it out to do greater magick. This is the concept behind 'the Cone of Power".

when it my own spell is strong but in a group of people it stronger

groups spell work strong .. lone spells work as well just not as strong.

Spells passed down in a family have more power in my opinion because they have the combined energies of all that have used it. It's just a matter of tapping into those energies. Inheritence spells are not as strong for those not within the family, but they still work quite well.

I find that belief and harmony in yourself or others helps increase the power. The spell (for me) is just a focus and doesnt always gaurantee a stronger result. But that is just me, everyone is different

Maybe the older spells are more powerfull?

I'm thinking that those spells which are passed down and used by a group would be the most powerful.

I say power in numbers. When we unite there is no stopping us, that is how humans survive.

I am going to have to agree with most of the other posts and say that spells from a group.

good question! although i do believe in strength in numbers i would like to believe that a handed down from generation might pack a mighty wallop as well. also i do believe that if the spell is used for good it will work better.

Well I do not carry spell,

But carry Rituals and offering to the God Shiva and the Goddess Shakti (Mother Kali/ Mother Kundalini).


In that we do the ritual Jyot (Holy Flame) in this we do soem offerings too and believe that Mother Shakti (Mother Power) Receive the offerngs in the form of flames.



The Above pic is myself and my family performed the ritual. In this the person alone doing rituals is as powerful as teh group performing.


After taking this picture I decided not to take photos of holy rituals next time. this taken from my cell. and ext time I wont take the snap again coz doing holy rituals I must not aim materialisticly.

I'd have to say coven spells, there are more people hints more energy

When spells are written and preformed by the person who has wrote it it's powerful because it has their energy in it and behind it but I do believe that a Coven doing a spell could be more powerful because a group would have more energy to put into it.

Personally I have found the spells that I have made myself and the spells that are passed down from generation to generation to be more powerful. Ones that I have made myself seem to be more powerful because it is something that comes from deep within. The spells that are passed down from one generation to the next are powerful because its a tradition within the family and carries a lot of weight when being performed. Its almost like calling the elders when doing a family spell.

hmm, my grandmother was a witch but had nothing to pass on, i have made it on my own with what i have made and learnt, so i have nothing to really hold it up against

IMHO, group spells work stronger, isn't that one the purposes of a coven? Strength in numbers?

every one is different and different speels, there are the ones for groups or ones you do yourself, not all witches join a coven you have solitary witches to laith :D

You are right Nortist (Sp). Things are more powerful with numbers. Whether it be spells or anything else.

I would have to say that it depends on the situation.

Yes if its me then a spell I created is more powerful, because it works for me, or possibly to protect someone in my absence.

If its for a group purpose then I must say a Coven spell, because all that energy makes the spell stronger. I must say Covens have an edge if its against one person.

I think that a spell passed down especially if its for protection is extremely powerful, because you have the energies of your ancestors to protect or help you fight.


Each different type of spell has different uses, I think it mostly depends on the situation, as well as the user.

To me that's a bit like asking which is more dangerous, a scalpel or a bowie knife? Both are dangerous and capable of inflicting damage in their own way.

In a group it is possible to produce a great deal more energy, but that energy does not mesh perfectly and it is easier to screw it up. When you create your own spell, it is tailored for you alone and the way you think/practice.

So which is better: force or precision?

Personally, I'd choose precision though there are certainly times where force is needed.

Group spells work better due to the energy of those involved in the casting, however I feel that spells that have been handed down through generations are also powerful as they have been practiced and honed till they work as best as they can with optimum results.

Group spell work really strongly.. Family spell that has been passed down generation to generation are very strong.

I'd agree with group. The more vibes you have working towards a common goal is bound to reveal the best results.

I also agree with group work. The more the merrier...er, stronger that is, lol...

In my opinion from experience, the most powerful is done by you, if you are born with the gift, or have become aware of it within you, we are very powerful beings, more than we know, but we are afraid of our true power, as are many afraid of another having that power... its stronger to use your own simply because its true to you and your belief in it is stronger than using someone elses and have doubt if it will really work as it is someone elses work...

I would deffinately say that spells passed down have more power due to the increasing spirits behind the spell. I understand that a goup spell is powerful, but is this not a group spell if handed down through the family.

i would have to say coven spells were more powerful as the collective energy would reinforce the spell

The spell you write yourself is more powerful, because you can always call upon powers to aid you in your spellcasting to make it as strong as you wish it to be.As far as spells handed down that would all depend on your belief in the spell!!

As far as with group spells it is sometimes very hard to get everyone on one mindset for a length of time and keep the energies rising and connected!!That is why I believe that the spell you write is more powerful and easier used and easier to manifest the effects of said spell!!

i have to say group spells are more powerful. sure the lone spell is strong, but if you have more people it'll be stronger.

Well , ys power in numbers is always agrteat way to go, but spells past down from oe generation to another have that added flare f the energies used from each generation

Seems to me that a coven as a group would be more powerful of a source.

I no longer believe spells work, or have power. I believe that all is about the energy and intent you put into things.

I believe that in any situation, a group "focusing" on the same goal is stronger than any individual.

Ha, I liked that, "focusing". And really, that's all "spells" are. They are trying to take control over a situation that we feel powerless about. Energy is always helping, whether you call it energy or meditation or prayer, or spells.

i think a spell in your family.

A spell thats been passed down through the family...blood is thicker than water...plus you never mess with the family...and that goes with it's spells as well.

i beleave the spells we make is more powerful because it comes from our hearts and minds and sperits.

Not that I know a lot about spells but from what I believe isn't a spell in a coven or made with other witched more powerful?

I am not wiccan but have studied it a little bit. I do see where each one can have power in it's own right.

A spell that is created by you for what you are focusing on is more direct and has less influences involved in it.

A spell by a coven has more energies flowing into it.

A spell passed down would also have more energies to it and have the personal ties to it as well.

The single initial thought of the spell is what makes or breaks it.If the family member who made it was not strong,then neither the spell will be.If you made it,and your thought was not strong,then your spell will be as weak as your thought was.No matter if you perform alone perform it or 100 witches.

I would belive it to be spells passed down from the family
Because it is more personal and more fitting

More fitting? for what Velvet? How would personal or fitting make a spell powerful?And please,dont think Im being sarcastic..Im not.

Maybe what VelvetPassion is trying to say here that it would have more focus due to the personal ties to a family spell. More directed energies perhaps.

Ok,yes,maybe..
But think about this..a spell is written to supposedly aid in the manifestation of a thought.The spell derived from that thought can only be as strong as the thought itself.I has naught to do with family ties or personal feelings.This is why so many Mages will re write a spell..even ones that have been passed down.Because whether a 1000 witches or one..family or no. A spell is only as strong as the thought which created it.The energy and force is captured right then and there,forever to remain in that paticular saying or writing...or drawing.

I agree with you on that one Oceanne. I believe it is only as good as the person's energy focusing on the task at hand.

Where the more is better comes in is when you consider the celing.Lets say someones grandmother writes a spell and she happens to have been very strong in her creation of it.If the grandchild is not as strong,then the grandchild cannot bring out the full potential of the spell.But,if she gets a few of her coven mates to help,then their combined strength could not only activate the spell,but also possibly activate the spells full potential.But,even so,they can never surpasse the spells celing strength.. they would need to create their own or rework it in order to do that.Then it all goes back to the one who reworks it to determine its degree of strength.

those passed through the family, if said right, can be made into a spell of your own.

Woud you explain that to me please?

i would say that a group workin in unison is stronger

As they say, there is power in numbers. So a Coven spell would be the strongest.

ok ummm usually a coven acts as a family and those spells came from some where they had to have been passed down to someone but I think ultimatley the spells w/ in your blood lline and made by those who careied your name b4 you hold the most amount of power it's something that hasn't changed and has stayed the same spells find you you don't find them something else (a higher power) will already know your every need and want b4 they come and will have these spells that willl come to you either they will be given to you or you will make one with the power of inspiration given to you by the goddess at least thats what I think :] thats how I look at it.

ok ummm usually a coven acts as a family and those spells came from some where they had to have been passed down to someone but I think ultimatley the spells w/ in your blood lline and made by those who careied your name b4 you hold the most amount of power it's something that hasn't changed and has stayed the same spells find you you don't find them something else (a higher power) will already know your every need and want b4 they come and will have these spells that willl come to you either they will be given to you or you will make one with the power of inspiration given to you by the goddess at least thats what I think :] thats how I look at it.

Depends on the spell.
Coven has power as a group, yet pointless in a sigil for personal gain.

I have to agree with everyone. If a whole Coven is working on the spell then it would be more powerfull then any other spell. If it is an individual spell I would have to say one that you have created yourself.

I understand everyone's point,but if the mechanics of the spell arent much to begin with,then how would ....could more make it any stronger without restructuring it?
Simply because it was passed down does not automatically make it strong .

..Well, you have to base this on three things.

The ability, knowledge and faith of the caster all vary.

In a group it depends on everyones strengths.

The spell is only as strong as the person who is casting it. Some spells are designed for only those who are powerful enough to harness all components of them.

on you make yourself are the most powerful because you put a peice of yourself into it

True.But even so,you take a spell that is weak to begin with,how can even a strong caster make it stronger without re working it.I mean a racecardriver can be awesome,but if his car doesnt have what it takes,he can only get so far using great manuvers.

That is true but if you re work a spell it is no longer the same spell which means you made it your own making it stroner at least with my personal experince.

i believe anytime u have a groip of people send out a spell it will be much more powerful than an individual will be

K..Thank you for your explaination,and I understand,but what Im saying is if the one who writes it in the first place,if the will is weak,then how could the spell possibly be strong ? I mean just because one writes a spell doesnt mean it will be strong.If the mechanics(intent,will) are not there, it can not have any kindof strength and no amount of gathering or strong caster can make it such.
Doesnt that stand to reason?

A group's energy is raised much faster. The energy is raised so high that one must eat afterwards to avoid a headache. A spell of words that ryhme with is your own is or can be powerful also. It is the power that you raise within yourself.

i am the most powerful spell for i am V

Yes,I remember you saying that once in a conversation MW. About the headache.Im wondering .I know high energy doesnt affect me in that manner,but it does make me feel good and crave vinegar,salt and oil after..I swear!But it is certainly something to think about.I have been around a group before but have never participated and they were supposed to be strong together,but it didnt feel that way to me at all.It felt like discourse.
And also,in light of what you said,does that mean that when a poet or rapper or whoever makes a ryme is essentially writing a spell?Because they put feeling into what they write too.

I do most of my magic by myself, but i love to chant with my coven its just such a lovely atmosphere. we have no spells passed down to us, we have each other, and thats all we need

I feel it is the intent of the spell that makes it work. I think it will work just the same wether its one person or a coven. if the will and intent is there the spell will work.

It is a known fact that the more people behind something the better it works.

i agree with temorary2 a groups conjured would seem more powerful

If everyone in the Coven used the spell it would be more powerfull. However if it was a Coven spell used by one person I believe that your own spell would be more powerfull.

Oceanne, you do have a very good point. If the original writer of the spell doesn't not give it the full intent then to me that spell would not work for others. However there are times when spells are rewritten by someone who do es that intent on it being stronger, I feel that this would work.

Shadowdraven- I have heard of a few coven that are like this maybe sometime you could explain your coven a little more in detail.

I personally believe that all three are powerful in their own rights. Usually, from stories I've heard and my own experience, spells you create on your own have more power. But like I said, one of the three can be more powerful than the other at any given time for any given reason. It just depends on your intentions for the spell and the level of concentration that you are putting into it that feeds the power.

I would think it really depends on how hard you focus your energy

Personally I think they are all equal to an extent. The reason being, it's all in how they were created. If a spell is created with a group in mind then it will work the best with a group setting. Vice versa for the others.

I believe thet knowgle and Mother Earth are most powerful.

Well I think either would be strong, as long as you are putting a peice of you into the work. Nothing will work if it doesnt respond with your energy in a positive way.

Ryver said it best...power or being presice.

one I do myself...

one it is not nessisarly more powerful than another... it depends on who is doing the spell casting, what their true intentions are, and if the spell is for any type of personal gain at all. there is a famous quote, "any spell or prayer that is not fully good is theft"

That is kinds sad to not believe in magic.. I guess for me i believe in magic cuz it makes the world seem more interesting and lovely.

I think it depends on the spell. I can see the points of everybody but...I think that a spell passed down through the family would be the most powerful...kind of an ancient power.

i have found out that group spells work beter then spells
that people do alone

i would have to say group spells
as many has said you have more energy

A group spell would be more powerful.

Power in numbers and all that.

Being a practicing solitary wiccan, I believe that spells I have created for myself are more powerful. Only I can determine what my NEED is and I can look at that need from all possible angles to determine the varied circumstances from casting such a spell. One must be careful to mind the law of three.

I can also see where a group spell could be powerful, as long as all members involved feel the same way about the spell they are casting in the first place.

BB, ~*V

hmm well there has been a lot of talk about personal spells being more powerfull, and then power in numbers, has any one made a spell that was crafted by a whole coven? where all have put there wen words and skill into the spell?

group spells more energy

id think working spells with more then urself would be considered to have more power... but then again working with yourself can also be strong too

i find that all 3 kinds of spells mentioned can be equally powerful as long as you believe in them and have the right amount of focus and concentration when performing them.

I would have to agree with the majority here. There's strength in numbers.

A spells strength comes from it's intent.

A covens spell leaves too much ambiguity and differences in interpretation of the intent.

Family spells are too rigid, and leaves you focusing on the spell itself rather than the intended outcome.

In this way a lone spell is the best way to go. It allows you to focus a lot better.

Spells you write on your own work very well, Because you put all you have in them. Covens spells? Well I do not belong to a coven,because it is nothing but who is better then the other and a BIG power trip..
Spells passed down from generation..Well they are as good as your own. You can also add to them and make it your own.

I dont think its the spell but the potency of the caster who is using it.Someone with more knowledge and ability can cast the same spell with a greater success then someone just learning

I totally agree RR.At least from my experience..only no spells.

Coven spells, because of the union....but all can be effective and powerfull

Coven spells. Diverse energy, yet like-minded holds the most power. When you throw your curse it will do more damage and more effectively.

I do believe that spells cast by a coven hold more power, but individual spells can also hold as much power

It depends on how much focus and energy is put into it.

I am going to have to agree with previous posts in that the more people you have the stronger and more affective the spells will be

I would think that if it was your own spell, it would be strong, because it's tailor made for you, by you.. but wouldn't you have more power in a group?

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