I wanted to express soemthing over a converstaion I have had recently. When I log onto Vampire Rave I assume the body of Marius. A Vampire from the Anne Rice Chronicles. I act like a vampire, I think the way I think a vampire would think. Am I a Vampire? In the mythological sence no, I am not. I like to believe for short periods of time that I am, when I am on this site. When I leave this site, I'm who I am, a human being with an afliction for vampires stronger then any person I know. So members of Vampire Rave (select few), to the ones who say " Your Not Marius" "Your not a real Vampire" "Give your head a shake" Give it a rest. My profile is what I want my life here at VR to be. I don't judge you, dont judge me. I wanna live this life here and expect people to do the same however they want to act here. I am an easy person to get to know....try me, you'de be surprised....
Its completely different for me. When I'm logged on I can express my reality which I can't when I'm logged off. I become me and not what people want me to be. I understand your point we all have moments like even if we don't know we are doing it.
When i log onto this site i assume a personality that is very much hidden from my contemporarys...thats the beauty of internet...anonymous...autonomous...and abstract
I agree with all..you can become what you are, or what you arent...I think the whole point is to learn about vampires and have fun...not to belittle each other.But I agree....Once I come here. a whole nother me comes out lol
Hey, if this is where you want to act out a parralell life, by all means go for it, I won't judge you, in fact I will support you
Well i think u can go on believing what u want ~rolls eyes~ but its kinda hard to be the person u are then get on this site and when i get off!
i do agree. when i log on i take on the personallity of Mykill L. Shade. second birth in 1165. do i think i myself was born then no, i do not. i do go out and play in my band wear clothing that i think Mykill would wear, but that is but because i like wearing that type of clothing. when i am at work i dress like everybody else. you could not pick me out of a crowd if you tried.
VAMPIRA3....roll your eyes all you desire...as stated on this forum many many times, don't come here and raz a post I feel I PERSONALLY needed to say.
Your opinion is yours, if it doesn't support the post....keep your mouth shut for those that don't want to filter through bullshit to get to the posts that matter.
It’s always good to escape from reality every once and a while...it’s good that you found this place to do that Marius
When I come to VR, I am who I am on the inside. That which I cannot or will not express to the vast majority of the public world. I am my true self here, not hiding behind anything, not afraid of what people will say, feel or think of me.
Marius, I applaud you for your honesty, and you as well, Mykill.
Judge not, lest ye be judged.
Marius, You seem like a very nice guy, so some of the "real you" must shine through the persona you become here. I applaud you for that as well.
be who you brother. I my self live this life on and off line I am what I am thats that..
if that is what you feel in your heart do what you please let noone put you down you know who and what you are darkness keep you
Lord Of Noctem Aeternus
I live my way of life here and in real life (to some degree). Here I can discuss matters that would completely shock the average person.
I love this place because I don't have to deal with some types of people which I get to deal with everyday I go to school.
thanx Cancer for making this site, it allows me to express myself without borders.
i am who i am and i believe i have been judged a couple of times havent i?
I'm mainly just myself when I log on, if not less goofy than when I'm not using the comp.....>_>
to each their own...
your still a friend in my book, human or vampire...
it an escape from my so called life cause my life bites i have bible bangers as my friends and i have parents how dont get me so it escape from that all
Very well put Marius. I sympathize. For me it's about the same. Here on VR I take a break from real life and can express myself just the way I want to.
At least Marius you're admitting it I respect you.
It's good to all those of of you that you found this site to escape from reality.
It's not the same for me,cause in here and in reality I am the same person.
What I can't stand is,because I am myself,and said that I don't follow the vampiric life style I was ignored.
i agree it good we express are self but when u lie on stuff then it kinda not the person u really are so im going to try to act my self from now on but it hard
vr has giving me a plce to be myself. while im at work, which has to be my life, i have to be someone im not. vr has givin me me life back. iraq sucks, and if not for vr, then i would have no release, nor a place to feel safe. thank you vr.
Yeah same here,I feel more comfortable here than in any ther place,I am always myself but always have to hide something.
I can't even be 100% myself at home.
hmm..I act the same way in my personality here as I do in all my life.
But I admit to wearing a mask at work and also one with my friends.
That mask conceals the true nature of my belief in myself and the things I can do, more for their protection than for my own.
When I come online, I am truly me.
This may sound incredulous to those that do not beleive, but I can only express my thoughts and opinions on certain subjects with those online that do not have pre-conceived ideas of who I am.
So, in a way, the mask is self defeating, for, though it sheilds us from the stark realities of truth, it also is a barrier that prevents anyone from 'knowing' me for who I really am.
Perhaps this is deceitful, but it is neccessary.
Very nicely put Marius... calm and nice. I personally am the same here as I am in real life... only in real life my vampiric side tends to come out more in certain situations rather than others... but it's always me... Chasmal!
you would think..logging on to VR...you wouldn't run into ppl that judge you are what you are or how you live.I have met some great ppl on here...weither they are true vampires or live as one....it's not my place to judge them or deam them insane...everyone has been kool to me and I treat them like a real friend
The beauty of VR is in the diversity of the members (at least for me ) so whether it is your fact or fiction that you give....it only enriches the site. I choose to give my fact. I expect people to respect that, and in turn they will recieve my respect. Life is harsh enough without bringing the judgemental crap here.
I think we all wear masks of our own making, just different for everyone. I am myself here, and in the outside world, but I also have other personas to fit my mood...VR has become a welcome distraction, and a place to come and talk to people I consider friends....
I agree with VampyOne's latest post. We all wear a mask of some kind. I am myself on VR and only partially outside of it.
this place is an escape for me too
i can talk about things i wouldnt normally be able to talk about..
vampirism, magick, dragon....the list goes on
its true, most vampires wear a mask to the human world
but im glad to be a part ( however big or small a part ) of VR
its a good place to come to after ive been outside at college or working :)
how much wood does a wood chuck, chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood??? thats wat i wanna know
how much wood does a wood chuck, chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood??? thats wat i wanna know
I agree with STABB-I am forced to wear a mask at work and at home to protect myself, but in turn it also keeps people from knowing the real me as a person-here,I can talk about what is important to me and for the most part I will not be judged and made fun of. It has also opened up the door for a great many friendships that I have learned to treasure both for their mutual interests, and their unwavering devotion and honesty
yeah im the same, im different on here to what i am when im in work, any other place im the same though
i c ur point and ive seen ppls point of view in here aldo for my own expirience damn i wish that was true i basecly let ppl think of me how ever they want if u think of me been a nerd hey ill act like one in front of u if u think im a great friend ill b a great friend aldo i hate hyprocrates but the way i c how ppl live their lifes today damn i c ppl and i c a buch of cokroaches like a disgusting viruz or something so i live my life as i want and who i want for the rest i let ppl judge me and to make it easier for them i act the way they think of me that will not stop me from been who i am with my self
I am also myself on and offline or at least I try to be.
eh if only life would be different..well like many of u out there..i come here..to try and avoid reality in search of something new..to feel a bit better with those who share my same interest , to live even for a few hrs a day without being constantly judged by everyone.. around me..
who is urself, how do u describe urself, how do u no who r u, how do u no ur real? this is so freaking complicated oh well...
lol...yeah daniela tends to write in short all the time:P
*me looks around* and waves at everyone!!! who fancies some absynth??:P
hey come ppl is noyt my fault ....lol damn u ppl r cuttin me deep just now .. :(
umm.. no for me itr's no escape from reality, let's say it's just an enhancment which helps bringing my alter ego out hence Yendor.. but still I'm no different then you would meet me on the street.. of course many time I seem to feel moore at home here then many other places.
sorry guys i`m just hyper... and a bit urgm..bored... so..marius...how r u???
I consider online in general a learning experience... This site however, well it blows my mind away. The pure life thrumming through it is enough to bring me to my knees...
That's the way I think sometimes, so my reality is very unstable anyway. So I guess I would say VR to me, is just another faucet of realty.
its not quite the same for me. i stay pretty much the same
Not all consider this a game.
I am me online as much as in the flesh.
This is the real world
You can play games
But the outcome is
always the same
sooner or later
la mort
Yendor.....you make a great point...I like your way of thinking.
Thank you Marius.. *flattered* I reciprocate your same opinion my friend... :)
*stands up and applauds Marius' osiginall statement in the opening of this thread!!*
"Well put my VR brother,...well put indeed!"
Way to go Marius!
You are who you want to be and that is great! Good for you my dear!
Marius, a jewel of a thread. Quality from you always.
Anyone that has viewed my profile will know how much I agree with you. This place is a sanctuary for me. "homesafe" if you will. I can access so many wonderful people on this site, exchange ideas, be inspired....
That is why I am so intense when people add to a thread in a negative way.
I raise my glass to you for saying your piece on "saving your negativity" for private time.
That is right be yourself..Not what other people want you to be..I thank you for your words of wisdom..You are a very brave soul...
I agree with FangMeBaby 100%, I come to Vampire Rave to get away from the part I play in the land of offline. I joined this site so I could be myself and share my life experiences as a vampire with others who understand where Im coming from. The outside world is where I play a part that isnt allowed to discuss such taboo things as vampirism.
It would seem that there is a vast number of us that feel the same way. We are what we are..and it's hard to be what you are in "the real world". Due to ridicule, physical threats, etc, it is hard for anyone or anything different to thrive. That is why I am glad that I found this site. On here, I can be me. The real me. The me that very few actually know, other than my friends and companions I've made on here.
Sadly enough, I am the real me here. I am the flirty, smart ass, friendly, bitch that I was before I had a leash around my neck. Now granted I love the one who holds the leash but ever since I got with him, I feel like I'm restricted from being who i was before I met him. I was the quiet child who sat in the middle in the back so everyone knew where to find her. I was the one putting blown up condums on my friends locker. I was the one who was willing to be helpful.
When i get on VR, I have my few close friends, just like in school, I have the people that compliment and ask for help or opinions that I talk to.
When i'm on VR, I revert back to the person I was and not the watered-down, boring child I am now.
looks like this is an alternative reality for a lot of us.
Thanks Marius for posting this. Kinda helped me realized what I AM doing here.
At first, I signed up because I liked the idea. It has now become an addiction - because in here, I feel I can escape and freely express myself when I would otherwise have been unable to. This is my place of serenity and freedom, an abode of released emotions. I can pretend to be anyone I want, as far as vampirism goes (though I have yet to dapple into that - I'm still trying to get a hang of things around here). Bottom line is, I am here because this is my new home, my castle of possibilities and freedom.
the darkness hides a multitude of sins.
people feel free to be them selfs or not as they see fit online. i some times wonder if that is because we know that we probably will never on another, and if any of us did the people involved would wouldn't know it
Hello marius, nice thread and good idea to put.
First, i'm not consider myself like a Vampire, i'm normal person who is interresting in Vampire
and other stuff since a long time.
Since i'm here, i act the same way in my personality here as I do in my life.
when i'm here i'm authentic at 100% and in my life it s the same.
we can see Vampire Rave like a entierely component of my personallity
I respect all and i can understand someone of you on Vampire Rave consider themself like Vampire it's funky yay.
and
When people tell before it's always nice to find a place for escape from reality every once and a while.
i see Vampire Rave like a secret garden of my Mind
When I am not on VR, I am Debbie. When I log onto VR, I am Debbie with an alias.
No difference.
If you find happinness that way Marius, then thats fine... but I give people ample oppertunity to get to know me through my rfile, portfolio, and general conversation.
In return however, I like to know who I am tlaking to as well, whether it be a RP'er, someone assuming a different personailty etc. I can usually tell, but I do appreciate honesty.
I am happy that u are who u are. I like it here on this site. U can become a vampire. I like your idea about this site. But u don't have to be fake or real to me. Because it doesn't matter if u are real actualy Marius are not just be whoever u wish to be.
for, it is not that i am myself on the rave. i am always myself, but it means, for me, that i dont have to explain as much, or slide past as much. it is an escape, but not an alternate....whatever you would call it.
I get what you mean... I give people the option of finding otu mroe about me, but I dont go into it the rest of the time.
Yes I think you are right about this. Everyone here is escaping reality or is young and nieve...Most of the postings and things talked about or related to are about movies or cartoons.....
Not everyoneis escaping reality here. I am always the same person and don't enjoy role playing. For those of you that do, I don't judge. But when we are discussing an idea or issue and someone claims to be 5000 years old it is hard to take them serious. When I first joined this site I thought it a site for vampire info not role playing. Since November of last year I have learned to navigate between the two.
The VR is good to be what we want to be, that's right... and I'm ok with Marius' opinion, cause NO ONE COULD JUGE NO ONE !!! For me, I'm just dreaming to be realy bite by a real vampire one day, but I'm not a vamp. But I'm a little sorcery practice, and I don't play a game here, or just a little to have fun !!! ;)
Marius : don't think about the "juges" peoples, just do all that you want, for me you're a great Anne Rice's hero, and who says you "oh, you're not...." maybe are just some fucking big immatures shits ! :) Kiss you so, and thank you for your always interestings subjetcs. "smacks" !
vampire rave is a good cause people feel more relaxed to eb themselves here so hey whatever floats your boat...
Well said Marcus though, I don't really do that I know I am not a vampire it just really interets me and truth be told I feel much more at home and like I can be me then in the real world.
i agree with you it's nice too see someone using the internet sites for what they are meant too be used for
you know I've been thinking about this thread for a while now, can't get it out of my mind.. and this is what I've come up with..
I think that everyone is their real selves in here, but maybe not the face they show to the rest of the world. Sometimes you just can't show the world the real you, because it'll cause you more grief and possibly physical discomfort...
So online, it's a little safer, so you can be more of what you want to be, and less of what you are... that came out wrong, ... :-(
Well said Marius!
To many people seem to jugde to quickly.
It is nice to hear someone put this out there like you have. Be what you will and more power to it.
When i got an account on VR I felt a part of me i had always known but had hidden deep inside of me come out for it finally wants to be know i now hear myself speak to people the way i talk on here....people wonder if i have changed for the truth to be told i have not changed i have only let people know a me that i like and that i am comfortable with if people have a problem with that i have 3 words for them
GO FUCK YOURSELF
excuse my language but that is how i feel.........
Thank you Marius for posting this thread...
When I first joined,I was very shy and to myself alot,I still kinda am in the real world,outside of VR...but in here,I feel powerful,beautiful...immortial...
I'm not a real vampire,I just like to fantasize,go into another realm...excape to a new demention...
I HATE to be judged,but it seems...me for instance...I've never gotten into any arguments or disagreements on here,everyone that I've ever met was very nice, polite and respectful towards me. I really appreciate that.
I really liked what Chasmal posted !
**Why does Maruius have to defend himself on his own thread,that's just childish...*rolls eyes*...come on now,that really made me angry...and with everything,Marius just replied in a calm nature...You're a better person Marius,be whomever you choose to be on this site,people should not judge,I kinda like the fact that you assume a different roll on here**...man..I just keep talking and talking...okay,I'm going to just stop here...sorry people for taking up so much space...hehe
I agree with you marius 100% and I am here cause it is feeling like home to me. I do not feel like a outcast here like I have at other places as well as real life. I have not hidden who I am therefore alot of people judges me and is very critical. Here it is different! I am feeling much acceptance and this is why I have called this place my home away from home as of late.
I am here to have fun. I just get razzed when I hear people state they are truebloods and actual true vampires...other than that...yes...this is my reality away from dealing a 4 cats,1 dog, 2 scorpions, a beta, bills, a 5 tr old and all thge Bs mankind has to offer. As long as people realize...this is an escape....not reality. And please no-one say "well...maybe my life is a vampires life"...cause you sound retarded and the mentally ill would be offended.
I think the VR is something different for everyone. I also think that you are right for telling people off for what they have said to you about your profile.
For me, the Rave is a place to come, express myself, and hopefully not be judged.
I have found everyone to be very friendly and helpful, and best of all...nonjudgemental. An escape from reality for me is a good RPG session with good friends.
But I can fully understand how you feel, I was the same when AOL first came around. All I can say is, be happy and enjoy yourself.
In the end, thats all that matters.
i find myself coming here...not knowing why most of the time..but i just feel that i can share my emotions..and talk to strangers...without having the fear of being judged.. and i must also say that there are really nice and caring persons in here..thanks to all of those whom i made friends in these last days!!* hug you all*
that was very well put marius, i'm sure lots of ppl are the same way on this site..
reality is what u preciecve..lol yah..i was thinkning the same thing. it really is and excape from realtiy. i love it.
I would not label it as an "escape" but a "refuge" from reality... The persona I take on when I go online is a part of me that I can never be in public here in our county.. It is the time I can be my dark self and express my thoughts freely without fear of ridicule or being cast out since many people here have similar interests.
It's not that I'm being a different person when I'm on the Rave.. it's just that I become that person that has long been imprisoned by the shackles of judgment in the public eye.. it is here in VR that she can say what she wants to say and do what she wants to do.
well..i keep on coming here..to escape reality...to seek my own answers..butt ill..now i can`t figure out..what`s happening around me..
Marius, be yourself and don't hide anything. to hell with what others think or critize about us. we are just us and either they accept us or they don't and if they don't then it is their LOSS not ours. Live life how you wish with no regrets!!! We only have to answer to ourselfs.
For me, it is a escape from the mundaen t0o the underworld that I love...I can be whom it want to be....
when i log in i stay the same old person i am when i wake up. i think you can do whatever you want when you log in here, its your profile, your account.......have a ball with it. who cares what anyone else thinks.
You really shouldn't care what others think. It is you that has to be happy with what you do and who you are. So if you do this, then you have a great mind and I would like to chat with you sometime. I find myself just being me. I am the type of person who will be nice until pushed beyond limits. So I wouldn't worry so much about what people think. Everyone has opinions and opinions are like a**holes, everybody has one and most of them stink.
I am pretty much the same here as I am in person. Well, with a select few. I am open and honest about my love for vampires, being wiccan, my point of view so on and so forth. I have never really been into the whole role playing scene. And let me clearify something before I get told off. I do not consider coming onto the site, thinking, feeling, communicating, in a more "vampire way" a role play.
I consider role play to be someone that acts as though they have super humans strength, I got out and kill at night,I was born a million years ago, my teeth grow, so on and so forth. To be role playing. That just bugs me.
I like who I am. I don't like to pretend to be someone else. I am more open and honest on VR about certain things. Especially my point of view. Some like me some don't. Much like real life.. lol.
I think which ever way of thinking makes you most comfortable at VR is quite alright. In my opinion I see people use it as a comfort to express things that "average society" is not aware of or do not accept.
Be who you are.. but, just be you :)
To be the other voice to say, it is good that you express yourself the way you want to instead of morphing yourself into what everbody expects.
I have come here just out of the blue. I was researching Vampirism and I found the link. So, I clicked it and here I am am now. Posting to a forum that all eyes can read.
When I log onto this site, everything in perspective is an open door. Marius, kudos to you and to everyone else this applies to, for being who you are.
I came to this site under a friend she showed it to me cuz she knows I love vampires IMAO so here I am (gee leave it up to moi to give a short answer when everyone's else's is long as heck) LOL :P
i am who iam and as i said in my profile i dont judge just enjoy ... i think its great you can be whoever you want to be ... on hear or off of hear ...some people can just be mean its sad..
props to all those who can be true to themselves no matter how awkward it may be in others eyes.
Like many, I am myself here, and everywhere. Can't say I don't use masks. I tend to hide a bit who I really am, but I never close the door for people to get to know me. I am in this site by accident, and that accident led me to a source of knowledge.
Marius, friend. I see your point. It is kind of sad to see people claiming to be discriminated because their goth/vampire lifestyle, come to a goth/vampire site to discriminate against anybody that doesn't fit their idea of goth/vampirism. I think Marius said something too many people are afraid to face.
I am what I am because I truly believe that life is as big and good as you want it to be. I am the one in charge of my boat's rudder.
May I thank you Marius for telling us what draws you to the Rave.
I, myself, venture here to espress what I must keep hidden in life, for the most part. At least I do a relatively good job of playing the "good girl".
i am who i am...and i do what i feel like... i don't go online and pretend. but if you want to that's okay, do whatever you want... and if people say shit about it, ignore them... or just tell them to kiss your fucking ass.
.... in vampire rave i just assume myself i'm me here, authentic when i'm in the life of all day i don't play a game ....
I like the way Vampiress put it,a refuge not an escape.Here am not afraid to show my opinions about certain subjects and say what I like and dislike so yeah a refuge rathert han an escape.
My first escape in reality was anime watching an ideal world and also making a dimension of my own in my mind to escape my troubles in life. In VR I also noticed I can escape from reality since I can get away from the problems of mortality and look at my life in a wider perspective... a higher thinking I was trying to reach God's reasoning after all... but there was a minor set back again I am still a mortal.
Nice thread Marius! :)
I have to say that I'm here because I love vampires and their world and this is the right place to be.
I am a little shy here because of the language (mmm... I don't speak very well english)..... In my real life I'm not. Excepting this I'm the same authentic here as in my real life.
I have no problem if some ppl want to escape from their real life and play a role here....I just have to say to them.... "It's very nice that you have found a way to do it. Bravo!!" :)
for my profile i just write who i am. very little or none is about who or wat i would like to be
Dearest Marius..I always enjoy your threads..I do believe that VR is a way to escape..if even for a little..from the problems and turmoil of everyday life..I am pretty much the same here as I am outside..just a bit more out going here...I do have my alternate personality here until I get to know someone... but my profile says up front what I am...I like your train of thought...You make me think...Great thread!
Marius, you are who you are on or off VR and i like who you are. i do not judge anyone..
Yes it is. It is a good place to have fun and just be different. It is like an alternate reality that you can go to just to get out of reality and be something else for just a little while. I will not judge who I don't know.
this site is a good place to learn and have friends that have the same interest i am just real about everything that i can be i hate to fake it so if i feel like venturing into the dark side then this gives me the options since i once upon a time my oldest and dearest friend called me the denmother of the gangrel clan and i hold that true to heart in the real world and here but i can express more here
I bet if you asked a pyschologist/psychiatrist they'd probably say that more than a few people at VR are no better than druggies on the street doin drugs to escape reality with the exception that their escape is most likely more healthy. I mean if you really think about it you're all saying you come here to escape reality which then indicates you are all weak of mind and spirit. Think of the homeless people, those in third world countries, kids from broken homes who don't resort to the level of straight out refusing to deal with their surroundings that it seems some members of VR do. Can anyone really say they have it as bad as them to resort to creating a defense mechanism of pertending you are someone better without the insignificant problems you really have. I'm sorry, but I got lots of problems in my life and there is no vampire or wanna be that could ever stand up to me. Its nice to pretend sometimes, but there is no persona I could ever create that could ever be better than the real me.
Since most of us we create a nick name and an alter-ego in this site, I suppose that we play a role, other roles are very different and other are little different from our real lives!
The conclusion is that all we play a role, so I don't have any problem with Marius acting like the real Marius or with anyone else's acting in this site, as far as they don't insult me!
Be who you are Marius!
When I log it's like stepping into a whole new world. I can actually be who I am without being looked down on.
I feel that when i log onto the Rave, it is a mere extension of myself.. I allow myself to be the true me, and i do not fear being judged... Kudos to you Marius.. you deserve a break to do whatever you wish without judgement...after all this is what the rave is for is it not? I simply act as I would in real life.. but i can openly discuss things that only people here would understand and that is a tremendous release.
I'm more open on the rave. Not like I am off the net. Im really shy
im a bit like goblet, very open on then net but very anitsocial off the net...i cant quite figure out why but ill work it out one day
To Fritz:For me is more of refuge than reality.
Here I don't pretend am someoneelse,but am me 100%.
Just because you found a site where you find you are more confortable to show yourself tat doesn't mean you're pretending.
Why shouls not anyway?
Well I myself come here because I love to discuss things which unfortunately in real life I don't get too much of, also Im myself both here and offline - I may sometimes play around and be in pretend mood - but then the people who I am with will be doing that same thing - and we'd be simply put - playing - But otherwise then that I am always finally myself, no other act. Still I admire Marius for being for open about it, that he knows what he's doing and that he does it conciuosly.
Yes I like the discussing thing too.You know where we live we don't have much people who are open enough about certain subjects.
when I'm here I'm me- not the facade I have to show other people to get along in the "real"world. I am free to use my imagination, my intelligence, and my skills such as they are, and there are people who respect and enjoy what I have to say-so I believe that coming here is my vent, where I can release the toxins from the day's play acting