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I don't remember the last time i seen a thread of this, and i came across this and hope to pass it on to those that could use some knowlege from it. It is long, but it is nessesary. I think.

Safety Tips
on blood letting, drinking.

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Remember this: Those you take from are people, men and women, human beings. And so are you, for that matter, despite whatever else you would like to think, or have been told. You are not better than they are, just different. "Humans" are not to be viewed as cattle or to be ruled over by those who are vampires.

Please, if you have no ongoing need to drink blood, I request that you refrain from doing so. It is a very risky, if not downright dangerous, thing to do, especially in these times. It's not something you should do casually, or to impress or shock your friends or family, or to be different.

If you are underage, I ask that you get parental permission to view this page.



Bloodletting and Blood-Drinking




Please do not go off on your own and try to cut yourself; however tempting, drinking your own blood is pointless. I am not here to inspire others "to try this at home" and get hurt or worse; I hope to prevent that, but I cannot babysit, monitor, or control everyone who may come across this, so please do your part by acting responsibly!

It is alright to have these feelings/needs; but I would urge you to not just drink blood "casually", just because it's "cool" or shocking. However, if you do have even a mild desire to do so, I do encourage you to learn how to do it safely, so that if it ever does develop into a full-blown craving, you will know what to do and how to do it.

Safely and Sanely Obtaining Blood
by Sanguinarius

I have some words of advice that you all would be wise to heed if you plan upon engaging in certain activities (which if you are a vampire, you do). Unless you have got a death wish, or you just don't care, you should consider what I have to say. Cover your butt and you'll stay out of all kinds of trouble. Actually, this advice should be heeded by anyone who is planning upon indulging in bloodletting.

Make sure your sources (read: "donors," "prey," "victims," whatever...) are "consenting adults";
Make them get tests done before you do anything, people! Don't ever think "It" can't happen to you;
Have them, not you, do the honors, if at all possible; it is technically an act of assault and battery, I believe. Or have them sign some form of consent; it may not help much if they go rogue on you, but at least you will have something in your defence indicating that you did not attack them;
Be as sanitary as possible;
Study Gray's Anatomy. It's got lots and lots of useful color diagrams of the human anatomy. This way, you won't end up maiming or possibly killing somebody because the veins, arteries, tendons, muscles, etc., weren't quite where you thought they would be;
Do not ever take somebody against his or her will, or if s/he seems even the slightest bit unsure as to whether s/he really wants to go through with it (refer to # 3);
Trust what your intuition is telling you, but don't necessarily rely on it blindly.
If you follow this advice -- trust me, you'll rest easier, remain free, and live a lot longer and healthier existence (which is the point of it all, anyway). Do it!

Here is a List of Preliminary Lab Work that I Would Feel Necessary to Run on Any Potential Donor of My Own
by Sangpoursang, who is a registered nurse

1. cbc (complete blood count)... includes numbers and appearance of: red blood cells, white blood cells, (plus a differential that breaks the white blood cells down into types) platelets, hemoglobin and hematocrit (the oxygen carrying component of red blood cells)

2. chem 20, (also called a SMAC, or chemical profile) ... includes electrolytes, kidney function tests, liver function tests, blood glucose, total cholesterol, etc.

3. vdrl, also know by other names ... blood serum test for sexually transmitted diseases including syphilis, gonorrhea, chlamidia, etc., but excluding HIV

4. HIV, or elisa test, followed by a western blot ... specifically for HIV / AIDS

* * *

The cbc would tell you if the donor were anemic, in which case you run the risk of making them ill by lowering their oxygen carrying blood cells ... also can detect viral and bacterial illness by the deviation of the white blood cells from the norm ... and certain other conditions such as too few, or too many platelets (the clotting cells).

This test is a preliminary that would pick up such conditions as leukemia, also, although that would have to be confirmed through follow-up testing.

The chem 20, or smac, would tell you if the donor had certain other conditions such as diabetes, kidney disease, or liver disease (a very important consideration for blood transfers, as hepatitis is spread widely through the use of blood products).

The vrdl is pretty self explanatory. Most of the sexually transmitted diseases can be spread just as rapidly through blood products.

The elisa, or HIV test, obviously is the main test anyone who is dealing with blood and blood products is concerned about.

Do not despair if all this medical testing sounds expensive and hard to decipher ... One of the very best ways to have these tests run at NO cost to you or your donor is to have the donor give blood to the local blood bank, first. all these tests are run on any blood donation. If there is anything out of the ordinary with any of them, the blood bank is very quick to tell you that the donation cannot be used and the reason. They may also ask for a family doctor's name to send the results to, if treatment for any condition is warranted.

Better safe than sorry when it comes to blood and blood products; it is just sane to refuse to take a chance.

And any donor that you are likely to want to keep for any extended period of time is worth the time and effort it takes to find these things out. your peace of mind is worth it.

A Medication Precaution
from anonymous

If you take any kind of medications, please check to see what medications your donor or source may be taking as well. The combination of the medications may have adverse effects. Also, even if you are not taking any medications, please determine if your source is, because s/he might be taking something that could have an adverse effect on you.

Thanks.Hopes this will help a lot of people.

I also like it a lot how you introduced your thread by saying that humans are not vampires' cattles:)

Robin that was a very good post, very imformative, thanks hun.

Well i just never remember from the time i have been here ever seeing a thread on this..... hopefully it will help some out.... and get people at least think of things before drinking some elses blood.... by asking quistions before they do.

Very nice post. Some very good points.

thank you love for posting this..and the warning you put right before..

informtative, but still the risk of bleednig to dead, how we can prevent that?

i think this is a great instruction

Thank you excellent advice, indeed better safe then sorry, and its true that its a way to respect both the donor and us

informtative and good points

pain..... to keep from bleeding to death.... well it is a risk.... your drinking from a donor....... the risk is there... it's just to be very carefull.... and knowing what you are doing is my thought....

Very sound advice Robin3... With so many risks out there it is good that you took the time to outline some great safety measures for sang vamps...

Robin, well thought and worded..... very informative and thorough. Thank you.

This is exceptional and I am glad someone thought to discuss it here. These are really good precautionary measures. Thanks for covering the safety issues.

wishing some one thought of it before.... not sure if any one has. :)
i will add more soon to other things of safety soon.

just some more points to view on blood drinking......

Hypodermic Needles

May I submit some suggestions regarding the use of hypodermic needles for drawing blood. Good to use: 18 gauge butterfly needle. The area where the needle is to be inserted needs to be cleaned with an alcohol prep pad beforehand. Use of antecubital* vein is strongly suggested; this is the space on the other side of your elbow, because the vessels are large there.

The use of a large syringe is not a good idea since drawing the blood causes the vein to possibly collapse due to over pressure. It is best to use a vacutainer device, which is used to collect blood samples. A vacutainer is just a test tube with a rubber stopper on the top. Use an 8.5ml one without any chemical additive, usually called a "red top" tube. Multiple tubes can be used to satisfy the thirst. Withdraw the needle and immediately place a 2" x 2" sterile gauze pad over the puncture and apply pressure for 30 seconds to clot the blood so you don't cause a bruise. The blood is now ready to use by taking off the rubber stopper and putting it into a cup, or drink right out of the tube. Blood can also be refrigerated for use later, but blood will clot up and separate if left in the tube. It is best to decant the blood if not taken immediately.

its good that you put this up because i know theres people on here who partake in blood-letting who do not take safty measures no are they doing it right.
i hope they read this and do change their ways

remember the information i have come across, and thought to share with every one here, knowing alot of you are drinking blood. just want every one to be safe in doing so....

Now after every one reads the above all information, and also more information of help also......
Bloodletting Devices
Lancets

A safe, scarless and almost painless way of bloodletting is lancets. Diabetics use lancets and they
work great for bloodletting. You can buy them at almost any pharmacy. I have found that the side of the finger close to the tip, while it stings a little, give a good amount of blood with enough pressure.

The Best Way to Let Blood


The safest, easiest, most reliable, non-scarring way to get blood is... a blood letter! These are little boxes with three or four razor blades inside. It is spring-loaded, and when you press the button, the blades come down just enough to get about an ounce or two of blood. They are placed on the underside of the forearm, cut about one millimeter (1 mm.) deep, and do not leave scars. Whilst healing, the marks look like a cat has scratched you. They are amazing.

There are new types, which have a kind of knife in them. They are usually used for diabetic children. They are great, and fully sterile, etc. Look them up by typing in "lancets" on a search engine.A friend came across something called the Tenderlett Lancet (http://www.childrenwithdiabetes.com/d_06_286.htm).

You can buy loads of different styles, which are all different prices, but the cheapest are probably the best to go to buy although they are the ones which hurt a bit. All the really expensive ones do is hurt less, but the cheaper ones are fine; they hurt hardly at all. (Remember that the people who decide whether they hurt or not are really small children). Its recommended that you don't buy them on the net, but go to a pharmacy and buy them, because the pharmacist there will tell you how to get the best results. (You do have to say that your child, little brother, or you (if you are a child) has diabetes, because that's what they are meant to be used for, and the pharmacist will not supply one unless you say that).

So have a hell of a safer life with these; they look like they could be quite a useful and safe tool for sang vampires. Very nifty indeed.

thank you so much. i would like to point out that mutting ones mouth on another persons wound isnt a good idea. infections may occour due to bacteria in the mouth. be careful, all.

wow.. that was very informative..
Yeah, i agree.. putting ur mouth on another's wound does cause severe infection.. a mouth is really nasty. It is best to let the blood drip into a glass.. and then drink it

Good tips, to the point. I like this very much. :)

*bows to all* I do try to share what i learn... :)

very good info..

Just knowing people do drink, and just wanting some safety in the fact of it all.

I am thankful that I am not Sangrin...

I am also thankful that I have no desire to give my blood to someone.

hi robin tnx 4 info, glad someone posted this thread..

what I do when I am in need of blood is that I contact a blodbank.. the deliverytime from GB to Denmark is about 2 weeks.. all you need tosay is that you need if for sience of some kind... It works 4 me, and it is safer tan taking random blood...(negolect to mention that you want to drink it) and you have to be 18 years, and they check..

That is one way to go. And surely safer. :)

Delilah22 that's an excellent suggestion!!! Robin3 you are a very considerate person my dear...Thank you and be well!!!

It is NEVER safe to ingest blood.Not to disrespect anyone here,but no matter how safely you indulge,you are ALWAYS playing Russian Roulette.It is a very good way to contract Hepatitis C ,a deadly liver disease that is more potent in blood products than HIV...It is not always properly screened for either.

about the needle theory -
if you are not using a vacutainer, be very, VERY careful not inject any airbubbles into the vein, as this is generally lethal. Vacutainer have the bonus that because they are, in essence, a mini vacuum, you can't accidently get air inter the vein, but as far as I've found they can be difficult to get if you don't work in a hospital.

Justice- that is always true..... its like safe sex .... the only true way to be safe is no sex..... unless absolty sure the other is safe in all areas of health. the same truely goes here..... but..... there are thrists that one some times can't not help. so safety is the next best thing. :)

darkling-so true. but some times we all know some one who knows some one in the medical field. just a thought.

that is the good thing about puercase it, you have through like a gazillion checkups to be considered a blooddonor, well at least in Dk

to pain, about dieing of massive bloodloss. one of the reasons I warn people about drinking blood, is because most persons are sleeping through theri anatomyclass, if you know where to bite, it is simply no problem..

another thing, if you "need" the blod in you, a finger or something 100% safe works just as well..

Thank you... I have had a few bite me (wink) and they almost made me faint... teehee

thank you for posting this was a great deal of information for a blood drinker like my self

Wow that was great, very informative and worth any blood drinkers time.

bows too all
thanks for comments they are also inforitive.

I am still up for all comments...and quiestions too.

Robin3, i alway have known you know your stuff.

thank you for that
i know a site where it says that i believe or something close to it
i never take from anyone who is not consenting or an adult. i make sure they know what is going to happen and i prefer biting them then shots or anything
they have tests and i only trust 3 people at this time for blood that are clean
thank you

well said Robin
it is a dangerous thing and shouldnt be playe around with
and i am glad that you have warned people on countless occasions to either go back and not do anything risky
very nicely done *applauds*

Great post being nurse it is Highly important to be safety oriented when it comes to Blood its Nice to see This posted! Yes i love the Irony of my Profession! But it makes it all the Better! One must be very careful when it comes to dealling with any type of bodily fliud Now adays! This isnt liek way back when when You do just about anything and not even blink and eye! Please Everyone Id follow these small set of guidelines For Your own safety atleast! I know ive seen alot about rules being made to be broken but this is one set to follow or someone wether it be Yourself or the Donor will pay a price!

Safe tip about blood drinking: don`t do it!!! Simple and true.

well if you must drink then just plain and simple...... be carefull

I agree with robin3... and by the way, this is for all the youngsters - blooddrinking is not something fancy, or something you should do because you want to show of.... LEAVE IT ALONE!!!!! until you can both see the beuty and the risks...

maybe a bit harsh, sorry, but I feel it needs to be said..

not sure if this has been mentioned in comments, but one thing to keep in mind is that the "cushion" of time for most stds and/or BB diseases is 6 months. because of my "questionable" past, my current boyfriend and i waited until it had been over 6 months with no sexual/blood contact before we both got tested for everything known to man.

it seems this practice would make sense here as well.

Informative and well presented. Thank You !

wow, that took a long time to read. but it was worth reading. awesome article

some times things are not as fancy as first glance.... but glad there is a need for this.... and the good that this is bringing.

Thank you for posting this coven master. I will say i agree with the fact that safety should alwys be in practice.

I read through your post I must say it was excelent. I'm not sure if you touched on this. But like anything do it in moderation. Don't put the doners life in danger to much blood loss as we all know can and will kill. Thank you robin for posting this.

Thanks good Info.

Very informative post robin. I knew some of this stuff but not all. Must check int alot of this stuff.~NFA

Thanks. I hope this will help a lot of people.

robin3:
Thanks for the post. Your words are exactly right. I am a retired Registered Nurse. And for the health of humanity you said it all. Thats why we have food to nuture us and your right we are not cattle to be prod and speak your thread. I have yet seen anything about this until now, and im very impressed :)

*bows to you SwtEternity* glad it was to honor your life work in your field.

wow i pretty much have the same thing written my journal





understand the impulses that might lead a living vampire to cut him or herself just to feel and see blood. I'm very familiar with the total fascination, the sense of getting high, the momentary easing of hunger that completely makes you forget that you're hurting yourself. When I was a teenager, cutting myself was just one of the dubious things I did to experience my own blood--and when my parents found out, there were consequences that didn't make me very happy. Now I realize clearly what a pointless and harmful exercise shedding your own blood is for a living vampire.

First: when you cut or hurt yourself to get blood, you're only ending up with a net loss. Not only are you stealing blood, nourishment and pranic energy from your own body, but you're placing stress on your body, as well. Physical pain causes stress, and your body's healing mechanisms are put into full gear to stop the bleeding, fight the introduction of microorganisms into your system, and repair the wound. You're only draining yourself of energy and life, and the "high" or satisfaction you're getting from the blood is a complete illusion. Drinking your own blood is like trying to stave off starvation by eating your own fingers. What would you gain? You only make the hunger worse.

Second: you're in danger of seriously hurting yourself, no matter how careful you think you are. Even if you're using stainless steel surgical tools (are you?), sterilizing them with every use (are you?) and sterilizing your skin before you cut (are you?), there is still a significant chance of infection. Your immune system might be lower than usual; there might be disease organisms in the environment. Even hospitals can't prevent infections in their patients, so how can you? And infections can have very serious consequences, including loss of a limb by amputation, and death. This is especially true if you don't get medical attention because you're afraid of having to explain how you got cut. In addition to this, accidents happen. Have you studied anatomy? Can you be sure that you won't sever a tendon or an artery? Veins and arteries under your skin will move around due to scar tissue forming, if you cut in the same place more than once. Every individual has a unique body structure, and you might perfectly well have an artery where one "isn't supposed" to be. Cut an artery, and the next question is, how fast can you dial 911, and how close is the ambulance driver? If you sever a tendon, you may lose the use of a finger or hand permanently. When there are sharp blades involved, nothing is predictable. Pets jump on you, phones ring unexpectedly, hands slip or jerk without warning. You never believe it would happen until it happens to you, or unless you read some of the collections of accidents and "strange deaths" compiled and published by Forteans. Trust me--NO accident is impossible.

Third: If you're a minor (and even if not), things like cutting yourself tend to be misunderstood by others if you are discovered. You will probably be assumed to be attempting suicide, and at the very least, your psychological stability will be questioned. Chances are high that you'll be placed in an institution for evaluation and possibly medicated. No one (but another living vampire) will understand or believe why you did what you did. A little blood isn't worth losing your freedom and the trust of those around you.

IF you are an over-21, consenting adult who is careful, informed and knowledgable, and you choose to engage in certain activities with other careful, informed, knowledgable adults in a setting where you are not alone and help can be quickly called if needed--that's one thing. I am not judging the choices of informed, consenting adults. But if you are a minor... or if you are of any age, but are cutting yourself alone, secretly, just to have contact with blood...

Please stop. You're hurting yourself, not helping. There are better and safer ways to meet your needs as a living vampire than by harming yourself or any unconsenting living thing.

Bloodletting is also a medical procedure to help people with a disease called *polycytemia vera* or *thrombocythosis* (i am not sure about the spelling); donating blood in order to help others is also a good gesture...cutting yourself just to see how your blood looks like it is not quite right...

Very interesting, thank you for posting this :)

Excellent post/article. For myself, I have one that I feed from and I know he is clean, and precautions are taken. I agree w/Robin3 so much. In today's society no one can take the chance. Everyone be safe.

Robin,

Though this is indeed a very informative and interesting thread, it is also common sense. Anyone who embarks on a journey to discover the darkness of vampirism and acts without guideance and or common sense is a ridiculous fool.I think there are probably many amongst the masses who do exactly that, drink blood and act the role of the vampire, or vampyre if some prefer, because it makes them look cool to others.

I think that those who do that, are those who believe in Hollywood vampires and that nothing can happen to them or that they are immune to diseases and so on...It is a lot of fantasy involved!

May I ask why? And have you ever discussed this problem with a doctor? And more important, who is your source of blood?

I completely agree with you vampwriter1369, but unfortunatly there are one to many ignorant fools who thinks Hollywoodinterpretation is the only truth.. So yes people should use their common scense, but I do not think they are able to when it comes to the blooddrinking part..

Thanks for the tips, very informative indeed.

thanks, again, just felt it was needed for the ones that may not know of these things :)

Many thanks for posting this information. Not many people know how to let and consume blood. I've seen many people get hurt from doing the wrong way.

Drazeus that is true. i heard too many the same thing, storys of how things went wrong. and so many younger ones here all they mostly know is the holliwood style and that can get ugly....lol and surpriseing like why i haven't seen a thread like this before. :/ i went blond i guess....lol

thanks robin3 for that advice it will help

exactly how much blood can be ingested before one becomes ill anyways?

well being a goth model i have had blood on my lips,body and tasted it some and that's about it for me.

good info thou *****

Sangurians are fascinating forms of Vamyrism.

However, I only enjoy being bitten if its not too hard. THe second they try to break the skin I freak out because it hurts so bad.

Doesnt it hurt you if you go about in biting instead of cutting or drawing it out with a needle?

Thank you for the advice my lady

VampireSiren for the sake of this thread. needles and so on is safeest. bitting may be less painfull but that would undermind this thread. simply the mouth is the most germy place to be. and well, one would get the point. hugs ya my dear.

Harleqin: you cannot ingest much blood at the same time... a litre of blood can last ca a month, and then you will not feel ill.. But still it is individual, start very small and then slowly increase dose.. your body will let you know when enough is enough...

One litre of blood can kill you! If it coagulates in your stomach, you are in serious trouble! If you have even the smallest ulceration in your stomach (not talking about the rest of the digestive system) you are in lot of trouble!
And yes, bitting it is dangerous for both the bitten and the biter!

well that is why you have to ingest it VERY small doses... as I said.. a litre can last a month.. I missed to put "at least"

and do not forget, the body will let you know when it is to much... if you get too much it will simpley return sortly after.

Okay I was just curious about the biting.

ill keep that in mind

Ingesting it little by little or big dosage...no matter! It is still dangerous, useless (better 250 ml of blood intravenous than 20 ml ingested) and so on...
Not mentioning, once more, the infection possibilities of the biting!

biting yes.. pucasing no...

like said before you have to go through a gazillion tests before you can even be considered a bloddonor...

And still.. no matter what.. I advice causion.... in all aspects of blooddrinking and letting.

I think it was very wise for you to post this.

Thank you for your info. and concern. It is well appreciated

Thankyou for posting this it was very informative.

Good post.... Helps a lot.. Just one question what is your opinion on how often one should be tested... ?

It's good to know there are thoughtful people out there looking out for us, Thanks robin3 for all your help.

even tho i dont drink blood, its always nice to know about this stuff!!

very informative.. thanks!

cool useful stuff

that certainly does help, tho few will go through all that...

Thank you my...... Coven Matser thingy...I appreceate the tips and the fact you quoted from my favorite source.

glad it was helpfull...

Very knolegable on the subject, kudos

It is good to be tested once every 4 months...For those who you trust and give you blood on regular basis...For others...once a month should be the medium testing rate.

this was a very good thread and very interesting

Thank you for your very useful information. I had some hesitations but I wasn't sure of what I should do to make sure not to harm myself or others, who were very willing to be doners...so after I read your post I felt enlightened with all of your precautionary steps to help protect myself plus my innocent and willing doners...but if worst comes to worst then going without will suffice for the time being. Thank you and I hope that others will read this and make good and smart use of this.

As a last piece of advice: find willing donors, test them, take the blood only if you need it(in some cases a supplementary diet of vitamins and aminoacid-complex is enough) and, for the better use of it, don`t drink the blood! Use it in intravenous perfusion... and test yourself after a short period...just to be sure everything is ok.

that was a very good post, very informative..

but it should be common knowledge to all with that kind of "lust" .
but me knowledge to people general, im shocked over how little they really now about it, before they try.
so again, a really good post:)

I thank you for the post there are a bunch of younger members who should take notice of this if they are thinking of bloodletting. Bravo my dear.

hey, very good, very good info ;)

I thankyou for the information. I can guarantee that you've kept out of a lot of future trouble.

On a site like this there should be a link to a dedicated article available, so at least if people want to they know how to stay safe.

very helpful article...this will be very useful in the future

An exellent article,.. a MUST read for anyone curious aboput blood drinking!!

i prefer an HIV negative
notification IN FIRST then
!!!!!

I am happy this thread is much needed... And happy to say it is in full in member articles now for future read. Thanks every one.

Very good tips but i must add something: i dont like the vacuumed blood... i dont like transfusion-type neither. The best method if your donner is willing is to use a razor blade sterilized in medical grade alcohol and drink from the source. But let the donner to make the cut...

Thoes are some great points,thank you for sharring!!!

definatly worth reading

Safety should always be important, and no offense to anyone, but don't trust the word of mouth. When in doubt. Don't

Very informative!

Very informative! Not only for the drinker but also for the donor. Absurd as this may sound it had never occured to me that a person with anemia shouldn't give blood. ( I have it.) I think this will also help people, such as myself, recognize risks involved when you are on the donor side of things.
~Simonis~

Your right it was long but very informative and I'm sure it will help someone. Very good information.

Well written and to the point, which is good for those people who can get bore with a long drawn out post because they are more likely to finish it the only read it part.

robin3 - Great Article again. Very informative and you did justice to those who need to know about these things :)

Excellent and Informative thread, I was suprised to find it so far away from the main page!

Escelent post..... great information for those who want to drink blood and doesn't know how to.....

there used to be this small time club in providence. you had to be a member to go in, they have thier own little id cards and eveyrthing. well they did, the place got shut down about two years ago.

but anyway, it was a place for people to drink each other's blood. it wasn't for vampires persay, so much as for those with a blood fetish...

anyway, what they did is they tested their members reguarlary.... at least once a month. you have to pay dues and such, to cover the blood work tests and as soon as they find out you have any kinda disease your out.

Excellent....Very important a must for all to know.....

That would be a very interesting type of club, especially in the more populated areas where there'd be more oppurtunity for those who needed it to come together to do it safely. I won't make the cut specifically because of my lack of physiological understanding of the human body. The other problem is then finding a good donor, I've got one coming to me in a few years, but still. A vampire's utmost concern should be devoted to his or her donor source, it's too important not to be.

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