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Ghosts are "stuck" between this plane of existence and the next, often as a result of some tragedy or trauma. Many ghost hunters and psychics believe that such earth-bound spirits don't know they are dead. Veteran ghost hunter Hans Holzer says, "A ghost is a human being who has passed out of the physical body, usually in a traumatic state and is not aware usually of his true condition. We are all spirits encased in a physical body. At the time of passing, our spirit body continues into the next dimension. A ghost, on the other hand, due to trauma, is stuck in our physical world and needs to be released to go on."

A paragraph i read from a web page that I found on google

My question is what do you believe happends to cause a Ghost to acually get stuck and exisist as a ghost?

Do u believe the above?

How can the person not be aware of his true condition how can they not know they are dead why do they get stuck? why don't they simply pass on?

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i believe that ghost get stuck in between because they have unfinished business that they have to take care of or they just dont realize that they are dead. yes i do believe in ghost and what you posted.



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I believe that a ghost can be the soul of someone who died in a tragic way and is stuck not knowing what is going on. I also however think some ghosts might be souls who choose not to pass on. They turn away from the light so to speak because they do not want to move on. Also it could be there is something in their earthly life that feel they did not complete, so before they cross over they need to fix something.. But that is just opinion...

Good post really enjoyed thinking about this topic



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ya thats true also, there are so many explainations for this topic



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i dont think there is anything such as ghosts



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I believe that ghosts stay here is because alot of them don't want to pass on or that some of them want a loved one to know that they are okay.



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I do believe in ghosts, I think that most of them get stuck here for a number a reasons. One being that they have died a tragic death, or because they feel they need to stay behind to be here in some form for thier loved ones, sometimes I think they just choose to stay. I do think that they know they are dead though. I have a hard time believing that they wouldn't know.



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I think there are many reasons why ghosts are here. Some because of a traumatic event others because they don't want to leave a loved one just yet, still others who want to stay around to protect those that are close to them. Some I do think don't realize they are dead because of the possibility that it is like living in another dimension where we would seem like the ghosts to them. Some ghosts are just here on visitations to be able to come back once in a while to check up on things.



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I don't believe time exists after death, or if it does...it is much slower. I believe ghosts are an echo of the live that was once there. I say this because most ghost tend to do the same things and go the same places that they did in live, over and over again. I see this much like a skipping record. The more violently you are ripped from the mortal coil, the more "noise", thus, the echo is stronger.



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I believe in the existence of realities beyond intellectual understanding...



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wow...that is the exact same post I saw in another thread...I mean...wow...almost word for word....same person, entirely different subject. Hmm.



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Harlequin

LMAO! hey there all thanxs for you in-put all of you seem to say tht u beleive thaat the reason why they stay is because of a traumatic event

and then some of u sadi they choose not to pass on

How can that be so?
I mean between not knowing your dead! and um figuring out the truth How can they choose not to leave? this is simply interesting to see what makes the most sence in the out come thanx again guys!



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In my opinion, there are different aspects of a "ghost" I prefer the term spirit....

1.) I dont think that there has to be trauma for a person to become a ghost... I think that it is possible for the person to pass on and just not realize they have.

2.) I think that when we die if we dont move straight away to our next life we are spirits that remain here.

Im sure I could give more theories, but as I am pressed for time, that is the best I can do now....



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dont think there is anything such as ghosts



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How can anyone really claim to be a ghost expert? or to know what, why and how ghosts came into being? if ghosts are stuck here, where are they going or supposed to be? when that can be answered definitively then the notion of being trapped here as opposed to there starts to have some plausibility....



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Also you're assuming that they're actually trapped. Like someone said above I think the term "spirit" is a better referral. Ghost has such negative connotations. Also, some spirits may elect to remain on or come to this plane in order to perform some sort of function that is important to them. To be a guide for example, or a protector. For those spirits, it is not a question of "moving on", as they have made their decision and are staying here for the meantime - there is no "white light" or whatever for them to go to as their job for now is right here.



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well I am not sure about Ghost yet I feel a persons spitir gets stuck at times because they are not ready to leave, or unfinshed business, even because they want to be near their loved ones and protect them.

There are so many different views on this it would be hard to just pin point one in my opinion.



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well i think when ghost do stay it means they either want something or really dont realize they are dead. in some cases they need u to help them move on or have a message for u and u just arent hearing it.



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i believe that ghost can be trapped in this relm for many reasons, may it be tragic death or unfinished business, also i believe that some are waiting for their placement in the next life.



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How does anybody know if a ghost is truely stuck or not, i mean a ghost might want to be where it is, just because people say ghosts are stuck in a different realm does not mean that they are...



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I think they are left behind because something that wasnt finished in their lives wasnt finished and they turn into a ghost form until someone else can come around and finish their job for them.



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I know ghosts or spirts are real as i've seen them as for why we can occasionaly see them. it could be for nay number of reasons, the person doing the seeing is a sensitive/medium, the spirts has unfinished business and wants to make sure it's completed, perhaps revenge if he/she was murdered and they want justice etc There are a lot more but i'm too tired to re-count them all!!



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I 100% believe in ghosts i believe that they are stuck here for unfinished bussiness and that there are ties that keep them here



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i dont think that all ghostz dont no that they r dead some may not realize it yea but i think alot know and i think that maybe the reason they are still earthbound iz becuz maybe they have unfinished business or maybe they coulent bare leavin earth without someone or somethin and eventually jus never leave idk but thatz wat i think



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01:08:02 Oct 27 2007
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i agree with faith



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Like I said.. I believe in the existence of realities beyond apprehension... Im not convinced we are to understand them...



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Ghosts are basically Lost Souls or those who have not/do not wish to move on. There are also several different types. Personally I believe that most become stuck because of something that happened during their life, be it traumatic or loving.



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I believe that they do not move on because they have unfinished business. They feel they need to right a wrong, or want to let a loved on know they are ok, etc



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in my eyes, a ghost can be of a persons soul, or an animals soul being released to the otherside



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i believe in demons not ghosts and people will say what's the dif but i suppose its a matter of opinion



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A ghost is defined as the apparition of a deceased person, frequently similar in appearance to that person, and usually encountered in places she or he frequented, or in association with the person's former belongings. The word "ghost" may also refer to the spirit or soul of a deceased person, or to any spirit or demon.[1][2] Ghosts are often associated with hauntings, which is, according to the Parapsychological Association, "the more or less regular occurrence of paranormal phenomena associated with a particular locality (especially a building) and usually attributed to the activities of a discarnate entity; the phenomena may include apparitions, poltergeist disturbances, cold drafts, sounds of footsteps and voices, and various odours."[1]



I believe that ghosts perhaps are stuck in our world but they might not know it.



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If there is such a thing a ghost stuck,than it gotta be that this stucker has somin he never fulfilled, so strong is the wish, that it is keeping him on this world, paining wheeping, echoing....

He gunna be there as long it takes to fullfill what ever is the tough nut, paining echoing...

Pooor thing...


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i believe it depends on the situat
ion of how, when and why they passed away.
The stories of mbr's of a family passing away
and being seen by other mbr's of the family doing what they were doing has been
passed down through history.
As to how well that will al
ways be unknown til we become more accustomed and believe in the after life I
guess. But to help explain it in some way there has also been stories of
people who have lost a limb and have been able to do something with that m
issing limb (straight after the event of loosing it). I have heard of ppl in vehicle accidents getting away when lost
both legs or arms, ppl in war been able to run for miles with a missing leg,
and when asked how they have no idea they just did it. This could be
the same thing with ghost, they just dont know how and the missing limb is their life
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I very recently studied on this in my druid class hence would like to take back my response above. lol..

There are three types of entities....

Spirit, Ghost, and Soul....

Each of these three are actually something different....

A spirit follows... they try to get out attention... and they are the ones that are stuck here... They are usually the ones that need our help the most, it can be for many reasons... one of which being that they just do not know how to get to the other realm.....

A Ghost is best described as of time and place...... they do not realize they are dead..... so they keep living life just as it was to them.... hence why if they are in a house.... and someone moves in they get upset because its trespassing to them....

A soul is someone that is not dead.... it could be someone in a coma or even in astral travels....

I hope that helps a little....



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A ghost stuck in this plane is usually here because they have unfinished business or (as you said) are confused about their physical status.



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Ghosts, from what I can tell, get stuck here by something that holds them back. Unfinished business or something they sense coming up that could possibly deal with them.



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I believe like many of the others do that they can get stuck between planes , eiter due to tragic death or they feel they have unfinished bussiness..but then again I feel that they are stuck between planes due to not knowing they are dead.



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I feel there are several reasons for someone whom has passed is still here as a ghost/or spirit
they may not realize they are even dead, they may have unfinished business here on heart and it has them earth bound as it were. Even just wanting to be close to their loved ones is a possiblity also

I do not thimk we will ever really understand until we ourselves is in that position as it were . Just thoughts here.



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The ghosts that people say are stuck here may have unfinished buisness, or maybe the ghost is reviewing ist life before it is reincarnated, but i do not think that ghost are places that they do not want to be at...



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i believe ghosts know they have passed away, yet are unaware of how to pass to the next level. For example: building our profiles, if you do not know how to achieve updates to your profile you are trapped until you can learn.



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Ghosts are cool.... ive seen one.... how they get trpped between this world and the next.. i have no clue... and how do they not know there deat



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Your question makes me think of the movie "Casper". Bill Pullman's character says a ghost has unfinished business, that is why it doesn't move on to the next level. I tend to believe that theory more than any other.



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Lesava I agree I really think many have unfinished things they left behind.. In order to see the light they need to have closure.



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I kind of see being earth-bound as a sort of punishment for any wrong doings in life....or that perhaps that the soul was unwilling to leave our world for whatever reasons, such as the popular "unfinished business" belief or that the soul simply wished to remain and not leave, or perhaps not shown the way to the next world and need help.



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I think ghost that get stuck get stuck because they are needed....yes some dont know they are dead but they eventually pass to the other side whenever everything is ok
some ghosts who are still here because of a tramatic existance are here until there soul can be at rest when there death is discovered by the living



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I believe that energy is around us at all times, having said that I also beleive that this energy can and does initiate things to happen. One reason a ghost or rather a spirit manifestaion occurs is due to some unfinished business or as you stated a violent wrongful death. I bellieve that there are many types of manifestations and not all are ghostly, but someimes pictures of the energy stuck in a loop. This sounds nuts I know but it is difficult to explain I guess. Having said that I believe ghosts do exist. the reasons they don't know they are dead has to be attributable to an untimely ending.



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How can the person not be aware of his true condition how can they not know they are dead why do they get stuck? why don't they simply pass on?


People are stubborn. Or they're the type of person who doesn't believe anything they don't want to believe in. We all know someone like that. They won't realise things until they're slammed into their faces repeatedly. I doubt very much that this changes when you're dead, it's a personality trait not a physical trait.


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I actually believe the article, Thats what I have always heard. So its what I tend to believe.



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I would say that many of them know they are stuck, hence all the reports of ghosts seeking help to do things like catch their killers.

I would say that it was such things as the severity of the trauma during death, feelings of extremely strong love for another, or felings of obligation that might be holding some here.

Remember, emotions like love, and extreme terror or pain, and even feelings of obligation can be quite strong for some. I know if I passed before my wife that I would strive to hang around to make sure She's safe. It's a very basic instinct, and thereby possibly stronger.

Guilt could be another culprit. The need to make restitution for some crime, whether real or imagined, committed by the deceased.

My only hope is that they are eventually able to find Their way Home.



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My personal belief is that ghosts are not just caused my tramatic experiances. Sometimes it can be a person who has passed away, but they do not feel they can move on. Sometimes they have the need to watchover their loved ones, or to say good bye. Some just have unfinished business and can't cross over until it is completed.



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Ghosts generally hang on to the physical world because of unfinished business or because their death was surprise. Most people are aware on some level that death is coming - so it rarely a surprise when it happens...but some people never get the message and when death does happen it is a shock and they don't accept it....hence the result is haunting.



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i think the get "lost" between planes, not STUCK. though ghosts havent finished what they have done on this plane, they can still partially influence events. but only if when they talk to us we listen, most people see ghosts and think WHOA.. im outta here. ive seen many a ghost and have communicated with a few. ghosts arent really scary, they are just misunderstood(like teenagers) and just need someone to "talk" to sometime just so that other people may know what they havent done in our world and help this spirit pass into the next plane of existence.



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I agree with a lot of the following post . Yes some are stuck because they have unfinished business but also some don't realize that they are gone and need to be talked into going to the light . Some also just like it here and they could get attached to a person , place , or object and just don't want to move on , I have come across a lot of these kind of Spirits they just want to stay in our world .
Then you have your angry Spirits who just want to stay because they don't like the fact that they are dead cause they died before their time . These are the ones I hate coming across.



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i agree with DarkGypsey. I had my grandma tell me see has seen a ghost and had one living in her house. i aslo had one in my house growing up. we believed it was my moms mom looking over us.



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I don't believe the spirits or souls of people linger on after death.



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I think it occurs because of a couple diffrent reasons:
1. The soul still believes it is alive or has the ability to enter back into its previous physical form.
2. The soul has something holding it back from moving on, whether it be a realization or act that must occur.
3. The soul has stayed to protect something that it feels is more important than moving on.

I cant say for sure that these are 100% true but its my opinion on the matter.



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I believe that all beings become ghosts. When someone dies their soul is release from the physical body and until the soul returns to another state of existance, it wanders as a ghost...



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i dont see how ghosts can get stuck...
whether ghosts would be considered reincarnation....... maybe they have a reason to be around after they die, maybe we all will be a ghost at one time or another, i dont know if there is one ghost that would be a ghost forever or if it is just for a certain time only



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Some spirits do get "stuck" so to speak. A trauma leading to death can confuse them.. imagine your alive riding in your car one moment and the next your in your spirit form... for people that were expecting death to be the end.. this can be very confusing I would think.

They can also elect to remain here for what ever reason they wish.. fear of the next stop for them.. watching over family.. unfinished business etc.

But the spirits I know or should say have delt with most are not stuck at all.. they freely move from here to their next word or stop on the journey.



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I do believ in ghost. I believe that some ghost where not able to finish what they were born to do and are stuck on earth till they find a way to compleat their task. Other times I believe that the ghost does not know they are dead. And than there are some who whatch over friends and family do to dramatic experiance of what is going on. So it realy depends.



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aother theory is that ghosts are signatures of imprinted energies, not the actualy soul but just a recorded image that plays back over and over, doing seemingly nonsensical tasks



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i believe ghosts are either here due to a sudden unexpected death or to protect love ones



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ok i do see to a point about ghosts being trapped, why dont they really let us see them to a point of us not being so curious of them or if we know forsure that its a real ghost ? i mean some people see ghosts and know when they see it, some see it well think they see it i just dont understand why they dont make them selves more viewable and react differently



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well not everyone is going to believe in ghost. but i had felt my grandmas spirit in the house i grew up in. she had made the radio turn on and woke us all up in the house and started to bang the pots and pans we had hanging.. but like i said not everyone believes in ghost.



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i believe in ghosts big time for sure
some just has to see it to believe it i believed it befor i seen it and i am glad maybe thats what helped me to have been able to communicate as i have had



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My only thinking here is maybe they just don't know that they are stuck. Kinda like the sixth sense. I personally do not believe in ghosts, but I am not discounting them as evidence I recently have been dealing with in my home...lol. Startgint to think that perhaps there is more to the story that at first appears.



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i think that if a person dies prematurely or violently then they do not pass on... there are just too many unresolved issues...



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It is easy enough to be unaware of your true condition.
I meet people who are confused about reality everyday.



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Sometimes when people pass on they are not ready to leave this earthly plane...be it because they were taken by violence or that the person does not want to leave...or worries about...loved ones...such as children, parents, siblings etc...these strong emotional ties keep them anchored here...

So explained to me by an Elder in my community...



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I personally have never experienced anything with ghosts. I have never seen a ghost nor have I seen indisputable proof of ghosts. I think it would be hard to come up with anything other than just pure speculation to answer your questions. Since there is no real proof that ghosts even exist how would we know why they are here. A veteran ghost hunter could say that it is because of a trauma a the time of death. Someone else could say it was because the person never learned how to swim as a child. The fact is nobody knows the answers to your questions.



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well we will never know until we die. let it be that way.



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I believe that ghosts stick around for two reasons either they have had something very traumatic happen or they have unfinished business but as to why they don't know they're dead who knows



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Perhaps the reason they don't know they're dead is because after the body dies and the spirit dissipates into its surroundings, there is no way to maintain our ego - our idea of self. They don't know who or what they are let alone know their body is dead.



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ghosts are goods generators.......they are like supernatural energizer batteries for spell craft...nothing is allowed on this plane that is not in a physical form of some kind or another.

Ghosts being once human and or alive have the ability to when the periods of time occur that the worlds slide closer together their actions become visible to us on this plane. We may be the ghosts to them, even though they are dead. Those interactions between this world and the other worlds inhabitants rarely interact they are what they are, good to use for other things if you have the opertunity to slave them to your purposes then do it. They lost the right to have purpose if they are a ghost, lost between times so they might as well be put to use.



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their ties to this world are to strong, or they don't realise there dead or they have unfinished buisness



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For me I believe they are still tied to out world because they have unfinished business to care for before they can completely cross to the next.



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I also believe that ghosts are those that have failed to cross over to the other side. It may be because they have unfinished business, or they died in a sudden, tragic way. I have also heard that ghosts may stay on this earthly realm to console mourning relatives. The pain that their relatives feel from the loss may keep them earthbound.



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i was just curious if anyone has ever heared of ghost reincarnation or if it can be true



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Yes, I have heard of ghost reincarnation, to an extent. I have heard that some ghosts choose certain people, for whatever reason, as possible parents to be born through them. Some cultures refer to these ghosts as "muertos." I believe Haitians use this term to describe ghosts who do this.



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Ghosts is a huge topic... My beliefs are very similar to the googled site's. I'll answer one question quickly though.

A sudden car accident, a penny falls from a 70 story building, and a tragic accident where someone little dies in a unexpectedly in a train accident, these are all examples of what may cause an unexpected death.



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alot of spirits stay around to because of what they have done in the past when they were alive .



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I don't know if they are actually getting stuck I think they are choosing not to pass on they were not ready to go and maybe once they are they don't know how to let go



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ive experienced first hand some ghost activity from a freinds who past who was close to me and people with unfinished buisness i think it that attachment they haveto this workld that keeps them here



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they have unfinished busy or they dont know there dead



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i believe.
ghost are just lost spirts that get stuck between world because they have undone wishes, or some sort.
to be ghosts are just as real as anyother people.



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I will have to agree with what has already been said. Ghosts are trapped on this plane whether ecause of an expected death or because there was things that needed to do or undo. BUt that is just my opinion



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I have felt someone hold my hand , but , no one is seen



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I agree with most of the posts here about unfinished business and protecting a loved one. But i also agree that we will never know until it is our time to go



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04:04:33 Dec 21 2007
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I don't know if ghosts and guardians are the same, but the spirits I see are like men who are 'out of body' traveling. Still, I get the feeling they know they don't have earthly bodies and really don't care much about it.



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i believe that a ghost is the imprint of a person who did not want to leave the maternal plane and therefore is stuck here as a ghost.



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I believe in everything until proven fake



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NICE! yeah I know what u mean, but u don't wanna be to gullible for ur own good do ya?



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i feel there are so many different reasons why ghosts get stuck..

i believe in ghosts alot, how ever we will not know untill our time comes,



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Two good possibilities,other possibilities :those they loved won't let them pass.
Those that despised them keep them from passing.

Spirits "unenlightened"or with taint and corruption.

Then there is the possibility of "Time/Dimensional Travelers" being mistook for ghost.When they are an apparition of a different variation.The dreamers strong enough to fade-in.
I have been spotted outside myself by a friends cat.
and once by her roommate.To pass on I think has a lot to do with the "attachments that they cannot let go of (mostly superficial.) I feel people in deep comas can cross to life upon surreal tears in the fabric/veil.
How many they think of in true memories would perhaps create a draw and appearance .if not visible
at least in dreams.The trick I feel is to elimanate distraction static and be still to hear/feel/see/smell/touch there maybe a connection in the remince of an item.



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I have always believed that ghosts were just the spirits of people that have passed on and can not move on because they are either angry or have unfinished business, but I guess the trauma makes more sense.



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I believe ghosts are here for a reason or they stay because they want to see their family that exist , Especially around halloween and christmas time. Ghosts have unfinished business to finish and believe that they are trapped to their unfinished business is taking care of.



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LuckDragon
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i agree with faith



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My personal thoughts on this is ones of simlpicity....
1) They are either trapped by a loved one not ready to let them pass over or they are not ready to leave their loved ones wishing to remain to protect and watch over them
2) They are too attached to possessions they owned while they were alive
3) They passed on so quickly they do not realize they are no longer among the living



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they have things they feel were undone on earth and are trying to get them done



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If a death come suddenly, or unforseen.. It could lead the person to not know that that have since become deceased. Its possible. Then ther are other who just refuse to let go when it is there time.



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