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I've been having issues when it comes to rating profiles. I've been gone for a while so its difficult to get caught up with everything so I began trying to rate profiles that I either didn't before or are new to me. I rate them to what I deem worthy, in which I don't give everyone a 10. Well, recently, I went as low as 6 (I know, simply horrid) on a profile and received a messege because I rated so low and didn't comment. One, I am not obligated to place a comment, it's no one else's business what I thought of your profile, especially if negative. Secondly, don't put me down because I rated what I thought it was worth. I believe the fact that the Preferred members or whatever they're called are able to see what you vote, distorts the actual rating. I am now tempted to give everyone a higher score just so I don't have to justify myself and go through the hassle. If someone wants to ask why I voted the ranking I did, ask and I will tell. Never criticize someone because they're trying to give an honest opinion. Besides, why should anyone care that much about what I think. Your rating on VR should not be that important in your life. Alright, that's it, thanks for listening, and I apologize if I offended anyone, just had to get it on the table.

I agree totally for the most part. Though I think this is probably best suited for your journal.

- D

I agree. I don't always have time to leave a comment. Usually, it's for obvious reasons anyway. And PM's usually have decent profiles, so I rate them well, anyway. People, If you don't put anything in your profile, you're getting a 5 or 6. That's it.

*high 5*
You rock.
Finally another person who actually honestly rates profiles instead of mindlessly handing out 10's.
You have restored some of my faith in the people on this website.

Well, D, it could develop into a discussion. Albeit a discussion that's already been done before.

I actually agree with you. I think the ratings are kinda fun. Being a premium member I admit I do look, but I don't get bent out of shape and I diffiently don't go out of my way to yell at someone about their rating. One persons idea of an awesome profile might be hum drum to the next. I appreciate the ratings I have received and was surprised when I saw a 2 in the list but then again maybe what I had to offer wasn't this persons cup of tea per say. Anyhoo...got carried away again..... you have every right to rate what you feel it is your opinion after all.

I stopped leaving comments a long time ago...and I had the same thing happen with the pm's when I was but a newbie...some I ignored and others I messaged back...ALOT of pm's are wrapped up in ratings...not all...but alot and I say ignore them..block them if they bother you or leave little nasty messages on your profile...but I can't see much of that happening anymore with the Societies up and running.

Yeah... I got a message from someone too... Someone that had like 8.5 and 415 rates my rating DID NOTHINNG! It's not like it is personal really...I bet they are all great just It shouldn't take a cable connection 5 mins to download a page...

Well I don't know what I think on the matter. I noticed that alot of people take it personal when it comes to ratings. I think, though, that if you do rate someone low and they ask you why it may not be for defensive matters. They may just want to know what you think they did wrong so they can improve on it. I know if I was rated low I would want to know why for that reason. :)

I can understand someone asking once. But they normally don't ask politely, or they just don't come out and ask. If someone would say, "Could you tell me why you rated me...?" I'd be happy to get them the answer. That's just not the way it happens though.

And just to clarify the journal thing, I don't write in a journal that anyone on the internet can read. I made a single post about a rant I wanted immediate response from, where as in my journal, since I don't write in it, is probably never or rarely read.

I rate by intelligence. :D

And sometimes because of content.

I myself have gone back and asked a member why they rated me so low on a few occassions, only to check their profiles and find absolutely nothing of value. Rating is indeed a matter of opinion, but remember that when you rate someone low, you should have a profile that compares. Those who have a profile with no avatar and a simple comment like ask and I will tell are a 1, in my opinion. I know a lot of other people feel the same way that I do. Personally, I've taken a lot of time to put my profile together and feel that that time, in itself is worth something. The creative effort to decide on which background I was going to use and then the amount of energy involved in recoding the damned thing merits something as well. Still, everyone is entitled to their own opinon and ratings are based on those opinions.

mrd and LaMuerte, my Housemates, I agree with you both...this topic has been tried and done. Journals are for bitching, on one hand, but on the other, I understand the frustration of the writer. Look, rate profiles however you want. You never know what you are dealing with here on VR...it's the "unwashed masses" right? (check Chapelles skit of "What if the internet was real?" Some people are cool, other are fools. The ratings of whelps is pretty much insignificant, and that is by clever design of our Prince. Chances are people who are serious about this site thin out. I put a a note on my profile that if I have rated you low due to a "new" profile, and you update just msg. me to take a new look. That's all there is to it really. *shrugs Because like any serious member here, we pay attention to our rating. Not so serious as a member, I don't even sweat it. My two cents.

I guess what I don't understand is why some memebers care so much. I made my profile for myself. I posts pictures of my daughter because I feel everyone should know how beautiful she is. I don't do anything for the ratings, and there should be an option so that you don't have to get your profile rated if you don't want it to be. I don't want to be critiqued by people I don't know, it happens enough in real life. And it isn't like I'm giving people 1s or 2s, if any effort has been placed into it, I rate at least a 6, which is higher than average. What's so horrible about that?

Profiles can be deeply personal expressions and it's easy to become defensive over them. Messaging someone yelling about a supposed offense is not the best way to handle it, but that is what block is for.

Just for the record, I was giving my opinion, as was clearly stated in my post, so there is no frustration here. Second, I think you have a nice profile Ri. There are way more option allowed when you get a premium membership and there are still quite a few prems who have low ratable profiles. Your profile is your own and some of us are just a little more competetive than others.

I wanted to take a quick moment to address something that I missed earlier. When you mentioned that someone had a high rating, with a lot of people who had already rated them and your rating really didn't matter...... as a matter of fact it does. I had three people give me 9's tonight and my overall rating has not budged because they were 9's. that doesn't mean that I feel everyone should give me 10's, but the higher your level and the lower the level of the person rating you, each rating does carry its own small weight. Just thought I would point that out.

Most of the people just rate so they can get a rating back. They don't even read the profile!... Albeit there are profiles quite long and boring to read!.

I find the whole rating system to be a pain more then and enjoyment like it used to be. I am a fair honest rater, and I will give you what I feel your profile deserves even if you give me a 10. Now a days when people look back and see what I've given them, they decide to come back and give me the same score in return.

I only rate profile's now that catch my intrest and deserve a rating, because I'm fed up with people's immature behavior! *sighs*

just go ahead and give the rating you think it deserves. demanding a -10- is simply pathetic and vain

I agree with pinklust 100%
I only rate those that are worthy....for it isn't worth the hassle of even bothering to rate someone low..even if it is deserved...and then end up in an argument over it.....
and at one point I would have been the one saying to put this in a journal.....
but it has become a recurrent enough complaint with people that I do feel now that it is a public issue....
the rating system became HIGHLY skewed by allowing some members only to see ratings
I figure that one ought to be all or nothing....
so like I said...if it's worth under a 6 now...it's simply not worth the effort of pushing the button at all...

*bows down to Dearmon*

We are not worthy! We are not worthy! :P

rate, rate, rate...

Since I dropped out the top ten, I've cared little for it, especially as I get low rates in response to my actions in moderating the forums.

Oh woe is me, another 5, what to do? Oh look, I have 28 to give back now...

>:)

rate how you see fit. be honest. i like honesty. but i also feel if you don't like something about someone's profile the leave them some constructive feedback. but that's completely up to you.

I personally comment only about half the time I rate. and I rate people based on their overall profile. If its not really filled out they dont get as much as one who has actually put some effort into it.

Sometimes I wish people would tell me why they give me what they give me Im not premium so i dont know who gives me what but its hard to improve if you dont know whats wrong with it. But on the other hand i kinda dont know if I want to because I take pride in the work ive done so far even if there are flashy things on my profile that annoy people >.> lol.

I understand from both sides. But you know, it does bother me when I get a low rating- because I know the time and effort I have given to my profile. I know that when I get a low rating someone is basically saying to me that they are not impressed and could give a shit less about my time. I also understand we all have different tastes, and I understand there are a lot of people who pride themselves in not being impressed easily and hardly giving a 10.

But if this isn't such a big deal and its not 'life' and just a website, then what is the big freakin' deal with handing a good score to someone who's put a lot of time into their page? You are after all not saying they are a 10 on the scale of humanity- but a 10 because they took the options given to them from Vampire Rave and made the most of them. That my friends, is worthy. Or maybe- they used no html but they gave you a few paragraphs of their soul- they brought themselves to you with words, if you will.

I say all this- but I know many will never understand. There are people here that could not be swayed with Pulitzer Prize winning words, because they wouldn't be able to recognize it.

I am very happy to get a 10- I know I always have room for improvement and there is no perfection in me whatsoever~ but for the serious slams I have gotten lately... I exist here a tad bit jaded. I rise and fall with being mad and not caring at all about the ratings. What keeps me here are the people worth knowing and a feeling as if I am a successful member (for lack of a better label). I know that that members that truly count to me and that impress me, I have impressed in some way... some way I have yet to fathom- but appreciate and accept with a smile.

No matter what- the rating is your choice- your option- and what you feel personally. Different people will like different things. I have read comments on other's profiles where people were rated low simply because the rater did not like 'red', the color in the background. I have my own thread in the sandbox of the jewels of reasons I have been given.

if you feel that a new member has potential , then the comment " let me know when you add more and i will re-rate " could be left.........then its up to the new member to get on with it and not sit in the corner snivelling or whimpering..!!

reasonable ?

hell i been rate as low as 1

when you rate a profile high or low, its good to get a comment so that person can improve ther profile, i think the problim is tthe ones that get a low rating cant handle constructive critisizim

good point , Vincent.

profiles on vr always evolve with time ,experiences and new ideas........

I gave two PM's a 7 and got asked why.

In my opinion 7 is high.

One of them gave a 1 cause I gave her a 7.Isn't it stupid?Yes.

Nowadays ratings became a personal issue and a popuklar contest.

It's not a welcome note or a hello anymore.

Anyway threads about rating have been millions.It's something we can't control.

Rating is your option and opinion.

By pretending to get a 10 from everyone is stupid,I can't stand those people.

Therefore I suggest you continue to rate honestly.

If you want to comment what they should to improve is nice as well,better than a comment:Nice Profile 10! Rating:1

:)

I'm sorry but a 5 is too high for someone who has one line in their profile, no pictures, no anything. You don't do anything, you don't get credit for the assignment. If I feel nice, I just won't rate them until they add something.

I must say l have had the same problem with a few members, although l didnt mind going back through there profiles and having another proper read through but l do believe that everyone cant give everyone tens otherwise, we would all be on the high ranking scale.

Batchyld, I agree with you. I feel it is ok to ask someone what they did or didnt like about your profile. Maybe it is too long or full of quizes or simply it is good but could be better. Feedback is good, is what I am trying to say.

Well i will openly admit it pisses me off if i get a low rate...especially when i go and look at the one who rated me low and find they have bugger all on their profiles or maybe a few thousand quizzilas. I worked damn hard on my profile and so did my friends...Yep i actually cared enough to get help on it. I personaly rate on what i think the amount of effort has gone into it. I wont rate anyone a 10 unless that efforts obviously been put in but i wont rate a hardworked on profile a 8 or 9 because i dont like the colours or some such bullshit reply.
I dont actualy mind a low rate if theres been some constructive comment left.
Sometimes i will comment on a profile but really most of them are full of Quizzilla what kind of mushy pea are you type things. Who really cares what kind of flower or Buffy character you are today?
I flipped recently because of the stamp issue. Get the hell over it i paid so i could stamp because half of the profiles arnt commentable on. You dont like it go somewhere where its not allowed and get off my damn back about it. Or write something really interesting that makes me want to comment instead of stamp.

Stand up be counted im am not ashamed to say Rate me and rate me a 10 lol I feel i deserve it so nanananananana

Quite some time ago I gave a person a low rating because there was nothing on their profile & I left the comment for them to let me know when they had finished it. Well, like a month later this person comes back to rate me & gives me a 3. So, I went back & looked at her profile & to see what I had given her & why. Instead of her telling me she had updated she just decided to get even with her rate. I just laughed it off & didn't ask her why. I know my profile is better than a 3. Hell, Batchyld helped me with it. That says alot. Each time I need a good laugh I go look at what she rated me.

I have a new stamp for people like that..and the ones who have to message you to let you know your blocked it says..

If I want any shit from you, I'll squeeze your head.

I darent use it though think imay get told off..Grins cheekily

Good post.
And a little humor, I love it.
I give it a "8" :)

Even I would get bothered to be rated low,even if I hadn't a background for example.

At least I got information,yet I still got low ratings.

But it pisses me off to asked why cause of a 7...

I personally think that is better if we give a two weeks before rating a new profile.... Giving it time to be modified... And sometimes is the fear of repercution from premium members or high ranked members when rating their profile too low... I know I am!

I agree.
There are times when the profile is really lousy or barely nothing to it......def. i rate below a 6......usually a 5.
As far as the comments go. I really don't leave any unless I actually liked something about the profile. Kinda stopped leaving comments for those who didn't have a profile or lacked a profile.

oh and i forgot. That's the whole reason why there is a rating system. Basically u rate what u think the person should be rated as not because he or she thinks they should get a better rating than what you gave them.

Plus the whole comment thing is optional. Out of all the ratings i do every so often i probably leave no more than 5 or so comments a day or when i actually rate profiles.

Waiting two weeks or some time for new members may be a good idea.

As for the fear of rating PM's, please don't be.
As PM's are far more interested in your views than ratings. We know ratings mean 'buckus.'
If your are using a stamp on a PM, please come back and say hi when you get the chance.

Being on VR is one addiction one don't need to fear.

I am totally with you on this one...

Why should you rate someone a 10 if they have shown no interest in working on their profile...

I have rated some people a 5 today and told them I would rate them more if they let me nw when they have updated their profile..

If I was to give them a 10 what would that say to those that have been given a 10 deservingly for the effort they have shown in the work they have done on their profile...

I am sorry if you dont like the Rate that i have given you. If it is a low one in your eyes, but if you wish to get a 10 then at least put some effort into your Profile..

A lot of people here take the time to make their profiles both informative and fun to read..They have taking time and effort to do it.

These people deserve a 10.

People who join VR and do abslolutely jack to thier profile do not and will not get a 10 from me..

It's true I always say wait before you rate a new member.

I got rated one's with comments of:Welcome when I joined.

I haven't even finished the profile and people still were welcoming me with a rating of 1.

Then I see profiles who have been here a year and empty and have been rated 10's....

if I rate someone under a 10 who is new I always leave a message to get them to let me know when they have updated and that I will up rate them on thier effort

Simply put, I have asked people why they rate low when it happens. They will USUALLY re-rate. Some however are profile bombers. One person gave me a F I V E for my WHOLE PROFILE AND PORTFOLIO because in ONE ORIGINAL PAINTING there is a woman sitting on the ground. In the sky is a full moon. On the ground are TWO crosses. Now, it is NOT a "religious" picture. Yet, she TOLD me she hated crosses and thus the LOW RATE.

If I see quizzes, I will start knocking off a quarter point for every one AFTER the first. Premium Member or not. MANY people actually ATTEMPT to WRITE about themselves or select or create art that they feel tells something of them. I applaud them. But to those posting ten quizzes interspersed with "What kind of (insert whatever here) are you?" You are getting no HIGHER than a 5.

No matter, no one REALLY cares.

Lol I got rated both thingies a 1 causet he person said she hated me -_-...and we never met.

I dont mind a few quizes, I even have some myself, but I dont want to see a profile full of them...I recently began moving my quizes to my journal, but I will be leaving a few on the profile as well..As long as the profile has content i dont see what the problem with a few quizes are

In my opinion, ratings shouldnt exist here on vr, wouldnt it be nicer to receive only comments from people that in fact wonna know you?

I disagree.I like the fact thet we can rate peoples efforts...It is a way of showing how you appreciate their time they have spent to give us some insight into their world etc

You are correct in every way and if it was a big deal to that person, they should ask you why you chose to rate so low in a manner to get information on what they should change or do better to their page. I mean some people have spent hours on their page and they deserve a 10 but others havent dont anything. I rate on content, appearance, and how much time I believe they spent on their page. You are in every way correct for doing what you did. Way to go... Oh and I have rated some people as low as 1 so don't worry bout it..

i like to rate and i love the comments i get .. when i rate i use the rate w/stamp as a marketing if you will and if i personaly rate w/ no stamp then it is what i think of the site at that time.. i leave the stamp first and if there is a update then i leave a personal next.. i dont rate low i think it is a waste.. if you are gonna put stuff in there and i leave a personal right off the bat then it has really caught my eye...

Ratings, suck. But, please give me at least a 9

Psst fangor...Slip us a 20 and its all yours..Grins cheekily

I agree I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD RATE WHAT YOU BELEIVE THEY SHOULD GET ....

Correct! And if you think that some HTML tags or paging layout will help, maybe it will be at use to tell...If you just joined and people give you low grades, after you made some upgrades to your profile it will take a loooot of time and a looooooot of 10`s to make your way into the top.

We can discuss, debate, flame, argue, make up and discuss some more but at the end of the day the giver will rate what they feel is deserved and the receiver will be hurt by what they feel is a low rating. In this "I'm ok, you're ok, we're all right, let's hold hands and sing" world it's a blow to receive any criticism.

Rating is personal and subjective; it's not a perfect system but nothing is.

Very well said! Precise and very objective...

i try to always post with a comment even if it's low. i like to give out some kind of compliment or suggestion. mostly more compliments than suggestions b/c i have this personal philosophy about complimenting people.

I am a premium member, and yes I can see what I am rated. I do not have a problem with a person rating me a lower rating, if that is what they think my profile should be rated. I do however prefer that if someone is going to rate me lower than an 8 they tell me why in a message. The only reason I prefer to have this done is.... There must have been a reason for the lower rating and I would appreciate to know what it is. There is always room for change and if someone notices something I would like the input. I don't want to know just because I think you are being an ass, I just want the input for my own knowledge. Helpful critism given in a tactful kind way is always welcome.

i just want to say that i have put alot of effort in to my page. it may not be flashy or have alot of pictures, but i work on my page whenever i can. i work so i can't be on here all the time. as for quizzes i like the two that i have. they are both on my profile, but that's where my quizzes end. i thought those two were nice and had great pictures but i would never put anymore then those two up because it is annoying when you want to read about a person and all they have are quizzes without a sentence as to who they are and what they are all about.

Now i know that some of you might rate my profile low because of the lack of pictures or the fact that i have a paragraph written about me but i'm not all that great with HTML. i've even read through the articles. i just want people to see that i rate honestly and even though i don't have the flashiest profile i would like people to rate me based on what they thought of it after reading it. it's not that long so it shouldn't take more than a minute of someone's time to get to know a little more about me.

The first thing that annoyed me about this site was: i'd only just joined up, had sod all on my profile as I was doing it in an external editor, and I had comments saying 'great profile! 10'. I thought WTF?? Theres nothing on it! I think i had one line saying 'work in progress, check later' or something. So yeah, it annoyed me getting 10's for not doing anything, so i can't understand why some people think they deserve one just for joining up. I myself have a strict method for rating which i stick to rigidly. Its fairer that way. And no, I don't always leave comments, even when rating high.

i think ratings are your own oppinion on that persons profile, i dont rate people whos profiles i dont like so i only rate the ones i think are between 8 and 10.

I agree and sadly I have had the same thing happen to me...makes you scared to rate a premium member lower than 10 cuz they might bitch and start trouble for you....when I first started I rated nobody a 10 until I got to see a few out there....

I've felt the same way about the ratings. I always try and rate what I truly feel the page deserves, but I have to keep in mind that my own profile/portfolio/etc. leaves a lot....A LOT...to be desired. And many members have been kind enough to grant me 10's. I also think the same way when it comes to the importance of the rating.....as this is only a website, and meant for entertainment purposes, mostly. It's not like it's life or death if you don't rate high enough. Ah well, as it's been said many times already....it's all a matter of personal opinion, and all in how you wanna play the game.

Okay...now go rate my profile and give me lots of 10's!!!!!

hehe

I rate people's pro's on what I feel they are worth on a scale of 1 to 10. I have had a few people leave me messages asking me why I have rated them the way that I did and I gave them a responce. I have been chewed out by a few people as well. Its all about the content.. Heck I am still building my site so its not that great and I know it. I do not expect high ratings.

I do take into consideration the time and effort put into sites and the images and text on them as well as the over all content.

It's not easy rating some of these pages.

i agree with you...

i myself dont care whether people comment my profile or not.. as long as they rate it for what they think its worth.. its too hard thanking everyone who comments me..

not all pm's are freaked out about ratings, although theres more to somones ratings then you realise..if they are in a house, they rating does have some impact on the house...so dont think the ratings are just nothing.
i think that if you are going to rate someone low , be ready to tell them why you gave them a low rating.
some want to know so they can fix what it is that you might have had a problem with..after all, alot put lots of time and effort and wish to be graded on how well they have done.
BUT I HAVE A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH PEOPLE WHO RATE UNFAIR RATINGS THAT HAVE NOTHIN TO DO WITH THE PROFILE AT ALL!!!
for goodness sakes people, the ratings are not there to get back at people for doing things you dont approve of or the like..
be adults about how you rate and be ready to back up your reasons because people do like to know why they have been rated if it seems like an unfair rating.

I've learned not to give a crap anymore, so what they downrate me. Being a Sire has it advantages when rating back hehe. >:D

If someone downrates you, and you know you put forth the effort who cares what they think. There are bright intellegent people on this site who can see that you have and will give you the credit you deserve. Some people are just plain stupid, and insecure...

it's**

I hate people who make a whole issue over ratings. Generally, you get what you deserve, and I prefer the low ratings of people who actually read my profile to the high ratings of people who simply stamped something on there and gave me a 10.

It's annoying to say the least.

i think that people should be pleased that others are giving them honest ratings rather than just giving them 1 high one when they don't deserve it. I f oyu dont leave a coment it isnt that important really, you don't have to have a reason for giving that rating and so poeople shouldn't bother about it. I tend to leave a comment so that i dont get botherd like this, but i still rate honestly and say why oi have givin this rating. But i some one doesnt want to leave a rating they don't hve to and its got nothing to do wit any one else.

I don't always leave comments or stamps when I rate a page. It's not always necessary. If the person rated would like an expaination, I feel they are intelligent enough to message me and enquire. Do what feels right to you.. just as long as you're being honest about your opinion, there's nothing to be at fault about, or to feel criticized about.

Rianna dont stop rating the way you feel. I always rate honest, no matter who i rate and if someone wants to know, i can tell them why. If they freak and abuse me, their problem or if the go and rate me low cause of that. Like vampwriter1369, I sometimes ask people why they rate me low and i try to improve if i see their point. what i dont like is when i get a 'lol' back and no explanation.

We don't all have the same taste so not everybody will rate the same, thats what makes it interesting. I sometimes msg people if i think they could do better and explain without them asking me why i gave them a low rating. which is not always welcome lol, but i wont change the way i rate cause of that.

Ok, first off I'll admit I didn't read all of the thread. I got the basic jist on both sides ;)

I too, received a msg from someone for rating them 'low'. Instead of asking me what this person could do to improve it so I'd enjoy it better.. this person referred straight to the 'rating' which ticked me off. Needless to say, I did not respond.
My opinion on whether I like your profile or not, dosen't make much difference, since theres such a wide audience all with different tastes. It'd be almost impossible to please everyone and I highly doubt you'd go and change your profile based on just my opinion alone.
I have never, and probably will never.. rate anyone lower then 5. I'm only still a newbie to VR but it was very encouraging to receive higher then 5 points to do something with my profile. I'm a simple person and probably won't go so in depth like a lot of you do with my profile..If you find my profile, plain or boring.. rate it what you will. I'm not out to impress you, just to express to you in however much detail.. who I am.

I will not rate you high if I can't read your profile. It amazes me how people expect you to read 50 paragraphs in a light/dark text on a light/dark or fussy background. I also won't comment since you are responsible for your profile. If you think people can read it then that's your problem. You were lucky enough to get a rate at all! (One of my few pet peeves but probably the one that dosen't rate well, in my books)

If you're going to be anal about your score.. then go about it in different means instead of attacking the person that gave you the rate. This generally suggests you're only interested in the rate you get instead of suggesting you're interested in showing them who you really are as a person.

I have gotten my comments back..saying why so low...and I have answered back...many of them msg me back and so please come re-rate me..I dont hink it is a persoanl affront to give and honest opion..and if so one does not lke your profile...well that is thier own perspective..I dont beleive in.."here is a10 to start off.." That is my opinion.

What a giant bitch session about nothing. This topic has been brought up before and was as long as this thread. It's very simple....Who cares?

Did you come here to be rated or enjoy the site?

This site wroks on many levels and one is the rating system, its one of the things that has to be done if you want to level up in rankings.

Any low scores I had when I first came here I have revisited, left a comments stating I have upgraded and if they come back and rerate good if not ce la vie.

I will rate according to the work put into the profile, not necessarily on personal taste, if someone has done some work they deserve more than one who just puts a few lines.

If I am rated honestly it is an affirmation of the work I have done, if someone drops a low score for whatever reason then thats up to them.

Cancer has set this place up to work in a certain way so I go with that, as to how those here work it they have to judge that for themselves.

Competition is a good thing but people tend to get hit in the leg with a pipe so that they can not compete for the gold. (Olympic Moment)

I've only been a part of this site for two weeks, and have worked on my profile, but still needs so much more...the ratings I got when I first put it up were just, and some said, let me know when you've updated it...just like they should! I welcome feedback and creative criticism and harbor no ill will to those who rated me a 6. I rate on the time, work and effort on profiles...I get a wee bit tired of all the quizes, but if those are important to that person, then so be it.

I would dearly love to add html to mine and make a stamp (why the heck not) and zorch the profile up, but just feel awkward in asking for help.

I agree with you.

I can totally see all sides to this. But, people's opinions are just that...OPINIONS. no right or wrong, but I do not feel that what ever you rate,reply,ask for re-rate...etc, rudeness should not be part of it. We must admit, somethings are just more aesthetically pleasing to us than others and all have our own ideas of what my catch our attention/interest. I don't take it personal and just look forward to the cool people I can meet.

I am new to this as you can see by my rank and i have to say that if you cant rate honestly then why rate as what you rate will be meaningless

i agree poeple always think their profile is the best and when one person doesn't five them a ten they get mad

Again, people are getting caught up about the ratings! This is maybe the 2nd or 3rd response I've made to a forum post about rating ppl's profiles. It seems like this post was made because you gave ONE person a rating of 6, they complained, and aggrevated you. Yes, I understand it's a pain when people whine and moan and whatever. But, if you really want to complain about it, wait until you get like 10 complains or something. Don't let one apple ruin the whole bunch!

I guess we all need to remember why we're here. Are we here to show off your html/coding skills or are we here to meet new people, share thoughts and express who we are as people.
I love what a lot of people do to their profiles but that isn't who they are (not in total) The information you supply about yourself should and most importantly be.. what we base our rates on. And in any case..if someone still then rates you low.. then perhaps they didn't like it as much as you might have thought. Different strokes for different folks people. Enjoy yourselves while your here.. Meh.

So...are we here to see how high of a rating we can get on our profiles or are we here for other reasons? That's my question... I guess a high rated profile
is irrelevent to me. Yeah they're nice but
I came here to meet new people and learn new things. Not worry about how high or low someone rated my profile.
Besides if one wants a higher rating they need to put a little more effort into their
profile. And I'm sorry but it is ridiculoius to whine over a rating.

Seriously, if you are taking the time to rate some ones profile, rate it high. And if you rate below a ten, atleast give a reason. It's starkly rude to give some one a six then say "Too bad, it's my opinion."

Honestly. If you don't want to deal with the hassle of typing out a few words or response, don't rate them at all.

Just go back to the basic rules you were taught as a child. "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all." And I still go by that. Just apply it to rating. If you can't rate nice, don't rate at all.

I totally agree with that. Personally I rate what I think is fit. I dont sit there and let the "premium" members bully me around. I do what I think is right, and if they want to know why then ask. Good thing to point out.

I had two people belittle me because I did not give them a 10. Well... I rate it as I see it deserves. I'm sorry if they do not like me giving my honest opinion. I am not here for the ratings but to meet people and learn what i can.

Woah..DarkVixen...that's horrible.
I hope you told whoever it was
to go choke on a d**K....

What the hell is wrong with some people?

Come on...it's a rating for a profile...
Looks to me like some people need to grow the F- up. Sheesh.

I have only ever given out 10s to those I feel earn it. But I have noticed that there are some people who bitch and whine that they didn't get a 10, and they have nothing at all in thier profile to begin with...

I have written two people to inquire about the 1's & comments that were left on my profile. It wasn't the 1 the bugged me, but the comments that stated "Great job! Interesting read!".
I did put a fair amount of time on my profile and I update it regularly. I do get curious at a 1. And the response I got with both of them?" I really didn't even read it. It was too big." ok. Then tell me that.

It's certainly understandable why you'd question your rating with comments like that. Before I got pm that had happened to me..after getting pm however it was much to my surprise to see what they rated! lol But nontheless.. I wasn't curious nor am I interested in making it an issue. However a comment like that with a rating as low as that is definately questionable.

My main concern are those that think a 5-9 are too low. What the...? Do you honestly think your profiles suits eveyrones interests that they're worth a 10 each and every single time? And if you're going to rant to me in a message about the hard work you put in.. then don't contradict yourself when you decide to vote for us lower, or if at all.

Personally, I think it's disgusting that the focus has gone to ratings. I'm not here for the BS that's associated with it just because we didn't vote accordingly!

In my opinion the ratings are kinda stupid on vr...its not about scores its about kool ppl...but noooooo..they even send u msgs to complain...

I think people get way out of their prams when it comes to profile points. The whole point of a profile should be that people get to know a bit about you. If you look at my profile you can see i'm lazy rofl.

If people don't like you thats tough. obviously their are idiots that will try and sabotage you. If it really hurts your feelings when you find out a stranger hiding behind a p.c dislikes you and you are bothered by it you need help.

wow I'm nor interest in rate...
If you want rate me ok..If you rate me 1 ok... if you rate me 10 ok...

1 or 10 is the same..be important (for me) a comment to better yourself page...

I think & say: " Do what you like"...

Some people just rather bother others for sexual advances or to make others feel uncomfortable. Others feel bringing others down will make them a better person.

Honestly I couldn't give 2s and an f about ratings anymore.

Here is a place to mingle, find information and help others.

Rianna, after encountering a few people here I have come to a conclusion. Some of them are just whiney and it does get annoying. If you wanna rate a profile a 1 go ahead...me I personally wouldn't care, it's your opinion if my profile sucks. It's a good way for them to learn to improve it. So I suggest you ignore those who compain about that crap, you know you have better things to do with your time then listen to them whine.

I disagree with anyone who rates someone new who has nothingo n their profile a 10.

For me it's not a welcome,for me you're encouraging them to leave the profile empty.Cause practically it is:Empty or not you're profile will still get rated a 10.

More rants:Getting rated then afterwards get asked questions already answered in my profile.When someone who doesn't have nice pics or not pics at all gets low rated.

My only problem is I don't see why any one would take the time to rate a profile just to rate it poorly. It's so rude and inconsiderate.

OKIY, it as come to my attention that it's mainly the new persons on vr tha get higher rating levels.
What i mean by this is, every profile i go on that is a new member (whelp) nearly all of the people that rate them give them a 10 even if they have no information at all on them like in the box about me where they are supposed to write about them selves so others on vr can get to no a bit about the person and be friends instead the just write "cant be botherd" or "i am female/ male" well ppl rate that as a 10 im not saying that you should rate the higher leveled vr members with higher ratings im just sayin, if people only have a bit of information or none as i have seen on some profiles, why do people rate it as a 10??

I feal like they jus do this because thay don't want to be to hard on the new members but what is the point??

Like I already said it's a way of welcoming themfor me they are encouragingt hem to leave the profile blank.

some of us work very hard on our profiles and still dont get high ratings..but others think just because they sign up on VR that they should be rated high..part of it is people getting handed 10 just for walking in the VR door the when they have been here a few days people start rating the as they should be..then they get upset cause they are no longer getting 10's

I think you should rate how you feel about something. I belive in honesty 100% If someone is so obbsessed with their profile rating though I think thats kinda sad. They should be more worried about the kinda person they are and how they reflect them selfs, not how their profile does. If someone complains then I dont think they are happy for themselfs or with much. Ratings do mean something.. but it doesnt mean anything about who we are ourselves.

i agree with you 100 %..i have a friend that rated someone low.. that person ran to one of the other members and cried to them that she was being unfair in her rating of him..i found that very childish on his part..

Same things happen to me -.- Sucks.... I was like.... new here.. just 2 days and someone spazed at me for the 9 I gave them .. I was like " It's a bloody 9 accept it! I do not need to give you " Constructive " Criticism "

i agree with you. it's wrong to critize someone for leaving a low score. but, in all fairness, if you see a flaw, you should always tell them. i know i like it when someone offers me advice on ways to improve my profile.

That is the most fair and logical thing I`ve seen anyone write here. the ratings really shouldn`t be taken personaly, in my opinion. My profile sucks, but I`m still trying to find out how to add stuff. I won`t take it the wrong way if somebody gives me a crappy rating! At least I`ve got the audacity to admit my profile is bad. Seriously though, some people just go nuts if you rate them bad. Personally, I`m not one of them, so feel free to send me some advice how to improve.

i one time got the exact same msg it was something like i gave you a 10 and you came back at me with a 6 you suck something stupid like that

that doesn't seem very nice. they asked for your opinion and then got mad that it wasn't what they wanted to hear? yet another reason i think giving away what score a person gave you is a bad idea.

that doesn't seem very nice. they asked for your opinion and then got mad that it wasn't what they wanted to hear? yet another reason i think giving away what score a person gave you is a bad idea.

At the moment:

Someone who changes their rating causey ou gave them al ower rating before.

So this shows that certain people bought the PM to get revenge from ratings,is this the level of imaturity most have?

i only had one person do that to me... and i rated that individual a 8 but they didn't try to scream at me, they just wanted to know the reason and asked for a way to make better, so not all preffered members try and scream at you for such a petty thing, if one finnally does i'll just tell em not to sweat the small stuff, it's just a profile...

Ok..Ok..In these day a few premium member that have look what I rate they, write to me crying a 10...
Why?? a 10 for a terrible page what I wait 1 minut to see...No..no..
I'm a web designer, my politics isn't wait a lot to read 1 profile...I hate wait more more & more..My page is poor? maybe..
In my page isn't futile addiction..Sure...
Not important for me I wish read a good profile...some general information...ins't important for me any istant of your life...
Any person do rate as luck would have it...
bye bye...

I agree. If the site isn't beautifully done, I rarely give a 10. Save for newbies, (who need encouragement and a jump-start) the 10 should be special. Also, with the amount of ratings that one is expected to do as a member, there is not always enough time for a comment.

For the newcomers I agree with 10 or 9, but then let`s wait about two weeks before we make another rate because I`ve seen some new profiles who`s rating scores were terrible! I think that should be even a rule here: you`ll have about 2 weeks to make a decent profile ( a picture, a description...etc. not something really huge) and then it should be rated. If you give them a rate of 1-5 from the beginning, you`ve pretty much taken away a lot of their chances and, sometimes, that is a really bad welcome!!!!

my only problem with a low rating was because i see comments left by this person all the time, and it even says on his/her own profile "if you give me a low rating please tell me why." so it seemed very hypocritical (Spelling?) for him/her to leave me a low rating with no explination.

i only expect what i offer or what is promised to me...

Just happened now:

First get rated a 10 and with lots of compliments then get rated low by the same person who doesn't even leave a reason.

What a shame.

personally I really don't care what ppl rate me....I'm because I like the threads and contests....I do however rate pro's on content and artistic talent, weather it be poetry or drawing etc....I admit I myself do not have the greatest pro, and am not offend when somebody rates me low.....ppl should rate based on thier own opinon and concious....not something based on the masses

I don't believe that anyone mindlessly hands out 10s. I know for a fact that I don't. 10s are the best of the best. Those who don't fit that get less. If you delve into who you are and what your interests are, that helps get a higher rating from me. If you don't have 8000 quizzes, that helps too. If you don't have a mile long survey, that's always a good thing. If you're attractive, that's a plus. If you sound like an idiot, by ranting needlessly about pointless things in your profile, and misspelling every other word along the way, chances are, you are an idiot. If we have things in common, I'm more likely to give you a higher rating, than if you adore some things I hate. If you seem unnaturally obsessed with certain bands, I'll rate you lower, especially if they are Marilyn Manson, Slipknot, or The Used. (I like all 3 of those, I'm just not obsessed!). Plus, if you rated me first, that makes me more likely to rate you anyways.

I'm an opinionated person, and sometimes a pretty harsh rater. I don't believe that you should give anyone a rating you don't think they deserve. And if it's a low rating on a premium profile, be prepared to support your rating. I have asked people how they thought I could improve my profile on the occasions where I got a rating lower than I thought I deserved.

As for stamps/comments where the only thing that changes is the name, I deem them acceptable, and leave them often. If I don't believe I want to further interact with this person, I won't leave a unique comment. If I liked their profile or agreed/disagreed with something they had to say, I'll comment with ammo from that. But if I have nothing to say, I won't. Besides, stamps/name comments are just a way to let people know that you rated them and would like them to acknowledge the rate, possibly with a rate in return....

There was my rant. Similar have been posted in the past... rate as you wish and expect questions/rerate requests.

holy hell, I didn't realize I had so much to say about that....

opinions opinions opinions that’s all it is everyone has them... Why really should someone else’s opinion matter? I mean if you like your profile then that’s all that should matter... I had at first nothing about me in my profile just my poems but I felt they spoke more about me then any thing else I could put in there. People didn’t like the fact that I didn’t put my day to day activities in my profile ... did it bother me No... Because there opinion though nice to receive really didn’t effect my day to day life.

yeah i hate when people yell at me for rating low, i mean come on.. not everones gonna give u a 10.. i think it is kinda dumb that some. and know the key word.. SOME people downrate you bcuz u dont have a background or somehting.. but who cares.. why mention anything to them? if thats what they rated then its rat they rated you

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