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In the first movie i was looking which i have all 3 of them, i was looking and things in there that might sugguest that there maybe back ally treaties and things of that sort like another type of govenment with in a government like a vampire government that live in the U.S. ?And the differant inscriptions that they was marking in places on buildings and stuff and the tats. is there some kind of book i can find that has the meaning behind those markings?

If vampyres can live for as long as alluded to in that movie, I would expect them to have taken over ever major financial institution more than 500 years old, so they probably would be paying the wages of almost every human in the western world, making them all their slaves in chains made of $$$.

Thats a good theory about that, any 1 else?

I believe your theory maybe a possiblity. I know for a fact there are great financial influences in our economy that most are not aware of.. My life was threatined as a result of finding this out.. so I'll bow out of this conversation now

and only for you sexy will i try to find some of the research I dug up on markings.. there is literature out there on various markings. I havent seen the Blade movies in a very long time so Im not familiar with the exact ones your refering to.. But I have done some research on it and I will try to help out.
and I said i was going to bow out gracefully!!!!!!

There are shadow governments running the government...but not by vampires...maybe there are afew people that live the lifstyle...but not actual vampires...such as The Luminati..The Free Masons...these are in fact true

The Blade movies are just movies...taken from the Blade comic series I believe. There are too many threads out here that are mixing up fact and fiction.

If you wish to know what the glyphs mean, get a copy of the directors script. It is a movie.

As for your theory, there are indeed people behind the scenes. Most hide in the banking and insurance businesses. ~ nuf said.

its a big possibility that vampires are in charge of back ally copreations

Fiction is just that....there might be a big "conspiracy theory" but I don't think its a vampire based one.

The glyphs in the movies are actually the symbols of the 12 Vampire Covens. Like the ones in the White Wolf RPG thing. Go to google.com and look up La Magra.

Like I said, old money. :)

Stabb, haven't heard his name in some time.

And the British - American governments have always been/ still heavy tied together. Hmmm.

In Queen of the damned they used the same premiss of a place that had been around for years and was a place for vampires... Same thing lacking the symbols

personally, i believe anything is possable, weather its true or not, who really knows

After reading everyone's view so far i agree with Billy The Just's view the most. I could not have said it better Billy. I think that the rich stay rich for reasons. That has a lot to do with our government and policy / law writers. Many who have interest in controlling their finances for years. Like bush and son. Vampires? well they could be because they suck the working class dry.

I agree with Billy... There are those who influence the government (United States) who are not appointed to do such.. And yes.. the rich stay rich for a reason.....

As far as Vampires, yes perhaps there are a few persons with "power" to influence how things go in the government who follow the "lifestyle" but as far as being the fabled Vampires.. I seriously doubt it.. *shrugs*

Wow thats a pretty good question, one l have thought about myself, l mean not so much doing with the government side of things but actually a book on all the tatts, etc you see in the movie.

The US Government has not and will not sign a contract nor treaty with our kind because of the fact of the matter is that the world is actually run by another organization known as the Illuminati.

the entire government is run by back alley operations.......why do you thin k the world is in the shape it is in.......as far as it being run by vampires i agree with mosteveryone else.........not true vampires but ones who live the lifestyle

oh dear!

thought blade was a comicbook,movie.........


fiction,not real lol

[for someone who owns a video rental store]

(sorry had to say that..meeehhh!)

I like the first movie, better than all the rest. TOO much cliché on the last two.

I don't know about you guys but comparison I like the 2nd one to be exact. I thought that was really good I suppose

Nice job Dom. Once again you amaze me. The thought of vampires running the government is a little hard to swallow, as well as the thought of the Illuminati running the world. True at one point they had their influence, but now with all the publicity, there is no way they could continue. The Free Masons have lost a lot of power as well. Sorry folks but my family is in politics, it's not as back alley as it used to be.

Key phrase: used to be.

Ok, thank you for that, I was beggining to LOOK for an up close and personal picture of them marks. LOL!

Now I've something to research and waste a little time before work. :) Yay!

Once again Dom you have given a most excelent answer

Government conspiricies... run into this a few times before. Just be careful. That's all I dare say about this subject.

The Temple Of The Vampire claims to be behind much of human history. They boast themselves as the only true vampire religion in the world. I was once involved with the Temple, but left them because of their cultic ways. They attempt to control every aspect of their member's lives. I could not and will never subject myself to such repression. In the end, I found many of their teachings too contradicting and at times laughable.

This subject has been amusing since me and a friend were just talking today about banks and how the jewish people control most of the finacial organisations in the world and also a big majority portion of diamond mines...I also have heard and infact own a dvd reffering to Darkwolfmans theory on the Illuminati and Free masons....but in actuality China owns most of our country's debt and people should FEAR the day they decide to call in that debt and we can't pay it back because of the bastard Bush and his war.....China will take over our country with out a shot fired....and now look at the situation with the Arabic company thats gonna control a crap load of ports to the U.S. if that ain't feeding the mouse to the cat what the hell is this country doing...I wish vampire WERE behind the scenes of this government and maybe it wouldn't be so damn screwed up

The TOV....ah...I know them well the bastard couldn't even get me a replacement membership card after an ex girlfriend stole mine....The Illuminati....there symbol is on the dollar bill the recent movie about them is called Angels and Demons I think...It shows that they have possibly infiltrated and killed popes in the 20th century and that they even infiltrated the Russian KGB...they are still there....DOM...the symbol posting was cool!!!

there should be somewhere, i mean vampires havebeen around for yonks there has to be.

What a grea thread....I am going to do some heavy research tonite!

A ? concerning the marks . Were they something created by hollywood or did the movie take real knowledge and incorparate it into the story.

Dude, if there is, I want fuckin in!!!! As for the Markings, I don't know. There might be?

~Master Damien~

I am with dom on the subject of the vampire church and blade is a fictional movie. but, the goverment is and always will be controled by big buisness.

Thanks for the marking and the url for the site I've been kinda curious about the markings in the blade movie myself!

As for this old soldier.. Blade is a movie, fun, but a movie. As for policy, I leave for them that make policy. Salute.

it is very possible that they might have back ally companies (i think thats what it wqas)
but if they have then we would be gone because the vampires are immortal and there for we would all be harvest

that movie rocked lol i have 1&2 but ive seen 3 and i love it

well vampyre houses/covens have theire own "government" like system and hey tend to have to meet to agree upon things..of course, not all of them interact but within the houses they have their own rules and such

I wish there were vamps controlling the governments of this world.... All of this sh-t wouldn't be going on... And maybe I'd be making more money!!

A secret Vamp Government...could happen i guess....but we'll never know!

And if there is a secret vamp government who's to say there aren't other secret governments....MIB (Alien's) and such...they could exist then again they might not...no-one know's for sure!

For every conspiracy out there. There are 100 you miss. I say if you believe it there, dig. You never know if you might be right about all this.

i havent come across any books yet but if anyone else has please let me know thanks

I think it's an interesting theory. I'm not saying a government within the government, but I think vampires could be controlling some major businesses.. who can tell for sure?
And I guess there could be certain markings (not saying the exact ones from the movie) that are known in the vampire world, to mark certain safehouses etc?

there could possibly be vampires in charge of back alley cooperations, I mean it's somewhat hidden and everything so it wouldn't suprise me.

not sure about all that i was jsut watching it for the fighting lol

Wow this was very interesting to read. What to say. well first and formost Blade is a movie based on a comic book. Second the government and it should say all governments are controlled by big bussisness and countries are run by the corupt people that are elected to office. as for vampires running the government well who knows what elected officials believe in.

All the questions..
All the thinking..
All the possibilities..it's wonderful to read so much and so many opinions, such diverse ideas..

There is a so-called vampire government but I dought it influences the government of man but I am not informed on what whos on in what.

Oh ya and There is a vampire that ran for govener and will be running for prez in the next ellection.

i deffinitly think it is possible

well government consperacies are everywhere wether you dig into them or not is where people tend to get in trouble and start disopearing lol. anyways off subject.

I think the best thing to do with this one is to lose it, as I am sure that the governments of the world are reading some of this.

i thought that the balde movies were awsome. and yes it was based on fiction, but some of the things caould have also been based on fact! obviuosly not like they portrayed but yes they were possible.

The world is to big to think of other things, ppl in power can be anything. But don't mistake fantasy for reality. There are Vampires in all professions. Most of us can testify to that. We or most of us aren't the stereo typical movie Vampire..

For their own good, Vampires would have a good reason to be in the goverments and other things. Makes sure their futures are secured.

Shadow governments and illuminati figureheads sure. Vamps running things behind the scenes? I think not.

All kind of governments are "vampires", because they are living out of the "blood" of the people!
Metaphoricay speaking all governments are existing to steal peoples money with taxes and all the "tricks" they devise to keep the lives of common people under control!

Oh yes there are vampires in all professions

Hi Evangius,

I'm not certain that they would not use their innate abilities for the manipulation of people in order to further their own, often nefarious political agendas.

I can see no reason that would prevent a vampyre from taking up a role in the background of international financial institutions, which, in essence, are the real holders of power and influence in government policy making.

there might be, its about like the governments underground association for aliens and paranormal, you never know what to expect...especailly with our government.

You can find the markings in the script. They are made up. But.....I see they may be based/ inspired on the "I Ching." I am very surprised that nobody caught that or mentioned it.

well thinking about that kind of organization u really think u can find out anything about em? as for the markings i think they just mean vampire clans

The markings in blade I agree look like they are taken off the I ching ...........

Do I think there is a secret vampire society?? Not sure - I think it is a possibility but probability?? Jury is still out on that one.

Stabb, I just can't see a classical vampiric entity truly being in existance. Psi vamps sure, sanguinarians with some level of blood feeding okay. But the sun turning you to dust bit, the bats, the superstrength, nah that goes beyond my skeptic paradigm to comprehend and allow.

Therefore in my mind these creatures as suggested in the Blade movies being behind governments, social structures and other powerful majority aspects doesn't seem plausible.

Occultic illuminati types? Much more reasonable in my biased opinion of course.

very good theory I have heard of a book that might would be able to help you with discover the meaning of the writing i will do some more research and look into it for you because i have heard alot about a certain book that could help you here

and yes i do believe there is a secret society like some of the ones discussed before

damn nice work Dom
well blade is maybe the first movie a Daywalker was made popular- the markings ( as my girlfriend got mine) is a sign for "whoms i am"

well,i don't know whether or not this is true,but i was reading the first in dan brown's series,angels and demons,that winston churchill reportedly said in a speech that if the british government could infiltrate the way the illuminati could,the war would have been over within a month. whether or not that is true,it does bear some truth. if the illuminati truly lived up to expectations,they could very well exist in greater numbers than ever today,due to new encryption technology,new developments in secrecy and the like. i personally would like to think that they were disbanded ages ago. but sometimes,you have to wonder. i would just like to point out however,that out of everyone who has ever written a book on the illuminati,if they were real,or if the authors touched on concrete fact,why are these books still in wide circulation?

i think those books are to everyone to be more hidden than being hidden itselfs ( like a tree in a wood can´t be found easily)

I am not so much in the disbelief of the paranormal or of extra-ordinary things going on as you know I have both an interest in that area and a practice of the occult much like yourself. I just find the notion of a super powerful creature such as a classical vampire to be somewhat absurd. That paranormal energy would have a beacon on it that sensitive types would be able to sense from incredible distances. With that said the amount of energy it would take for something like this to exist would be incredible, I figure one hell of a hole through the veil and it wouldn't just be Vampire types popping out of the woodwork we would have all sorts of fun nasties perhaps even including Cthulhu Slimeys.

But sure I am willing to go so far as secret societies, perhaps those that use blood rituals or drink it once in a while. The aspect about remembered past lives borders on kheparu philosophies and though I find most of that bunk I will concede that I am sure there are some gifted folks that remember more than just this life which would give them something of an edge over the every day sheeple.

I happen to believe that much of the illuminati (for lack of a better word) are just as you have described often hereditary positions that are filled or competed for in a never ending struggle to gather more power and dominate the masses.

Movies are Movies and Facts are Facts

These are getting long aren't they? lol this next one of mine however I shortened down some.

Possession gets closer to a physical property about it but still one could argue that that is still somewhat of an astral type of partial influence.

I think creatures of energy still have limitations as well. If you go to slowly the energy changes into something unstable, too quickly the same effect happens. If it were easy to do the world would be infested with all sorts of higher ups playing as gods, I think the earth as we know it right now is too dense or slow an energy wavelength to have allowed for that in these days. Which is why I think you find more aspects of posession (I would included channeling in that(, astral influences, dream state contacts, and other less physical approaches. These aspects however don't dissallow the feeding of energy on some level to their contacts.

To me the structure is important if you are going to write something up and follow it. As much as I like Batman and even train to somewhat carry that archetypes abilities and mindset, I would never write up a training thesis, or a doctrine that carried that characters name or influence in it directly in the writing. This is because I feel it is necassary to use grounded facts and principles without them being subject to conjecture or being undefineable.

Once you stick something like that in much like in Bellanger's use of White Wolf Material you might get some anal jerk off much like myself insisting that they shouldn't have integrated rpg with spiritual theory. I think that much of the scientific world mocks metaphysics simply because there is no guideline or rule that is followed when folks bring their material. Some of it is inserted directly from stories or games of which in reality needn't be there. I think some self proclaimed gurus do this simply because of the popular factor that if they do bring these elements in it they might sell simply because of it. Therefore for me if folks want to be more credible they need to stand on their own merits, not borrow from popular games or stories in order to show the value of the system.

lol Well if they aren't reading it all they are missing out on how an occult discussion should be forumulated between parties. Nobody is perfect however.

I am not dismissing that there could be high level entities in circulation on this plane. This is a pretty big place just that I find it would probably have to be very very rare. With this said Classical vampire types with those kinds of abilities wouldn't be in the small numbers calculated for them by modern myth or suspicion in fact I feel it would have to be far less than perhaps a tenth of that. Enough however for me to be a complete skeptic at the plausibility of them. However the last thing I want to suggest is that something is impossible I too have seen and even done things that others aren't likely to believe as possible either.

Absolutely I think that the energic wavelengths that this physical plane we go through has the potential to change to allow such aspects to more easily come to pass. Going back to cthulhu it was said that their power will come again when the stars are right. A beautiful phrase that could work along a number of other levels and or beings.

Although I think the change would be a gradual one and there would be signs and evidence of this change coming to pass. Enough to give the sensitive types warning that something was happening and they could either prepare for what comes or embrace it.

I recognize that people want answers. They want a game plan for which they can follow and achieve results. Many folks are coming from structured organized religion of which they felt comfortable in knowing that these organisations held key answers for them on any question they had. Not having anything to rely on this makes people back off of other viewpoints or paradigms. That can be rather frustrating and frightning. I think however if you want to empower people they have to start taking responsibility for their own advancement, giving nice easy answers in order to soothe them starts them down a road of habits that may now be harder to break them of.

But then that is my differing style compared to those that I would call Light pathed. I don't usually try to have a nice and gentle bedside manner, if people want answers and change it is going to hurt and that is part of the process, trying to nullify that just ends up with usually a weak following and or an uneducated one.

For all my distaste of Bellanger's work however I am glad that there is something out there that people can turn to that is aside the norm. I just hope that eventually those that are locked into the practices see something more or better after having gotten their feet wet.

It's amazing how two people can have a civil disagreement without the use of threats, insults or profanity. lol

Perhaps they are simply biding their time, or working to have events coincide with whatever alignment they require to make the breakthrough...

The 'classic' vampire, I find hard to accept as well. It is anomalous to my current understanding of the core principles of modern vampyrism. Though whether that precludes their existence, is debatable.

i disagree about the change. I think that it will be far more abrupt that people will expect. A catalyst event will occur and 'critical mass' of energy will be released. It would take something on the order of California falling into the sea, or Yellowstone erupting, but I believe that might one day happen as well, or even be the same sequence of events.

I've also been hearing some occassional murmerings about everything seeming to be out of whack right now...already feeling that something is coming. I've had a few odd moments myself, but nothing that I would attribute to the sensing of a coming cataclysm though.

Indded, people are right to be afraind of this world. I personally believe we are all headed straight to chaos on the express elevator, but is it fair to shatter their comfy little realities, can they even cope, were they to have their walls of deception stripped away?

And there is merit to having those who are willing to take the time to make such information available, even if they themselves profit from it.

I am sure if folks are getting a little tense at the lack of threats and profanity we could stick a few jabs in here and there. Might be a little more amusing of a discussion too lol.

I agree, higher entities have nothing but a patient outlook and for them forumulating things and waiting for events to take place to better capitalize on new openings would be my bet.

A big bang change eh? That would be one hell of a shock to both go through that and then try to adapt. I think yours is the scarier picture that would lead to doom to a lot of folks. I am going to continue now hoping that my theory if I am alive on this physical level comes to pass, be a lot easier for sure.

I am not sure about people thinking things are out of whack more so than they were. If we look back to history every generation or so you have folks claiming that the end of the world was near. Y2K was a big thing where people swore up and down that change was coming and usually not for the best, I think I went to bed early that night cause I am a party pooper and I woke up to the sound of my still working alarm clock. I guess maybe I should have been a little more grateful at my existance that morning, but in reality I was a little depressed that the big horrible events didn't come into place at all at least that might have been exciting.

What does excite me though is more on a level of science on the IT field. If anything is really coming out fast it is the connections we are making in regards to metaphysics on the internet lines. It is almost like a whole new astral realm being created. I am fascinated by this and on some level I think that if a big change like you say is to come, it might very well verge on this technology. That and I am a Tech geek, either choice is plausible.

"I personally believe we are all headed straight to chaos on the express elevator, but is it fair to shatter their comfy little realities, can they even cope, were they to have their walls of deception stripped away?"

The matrix rocked. The question that Cypher asked, is it better to be ignorant and live a nice comfortable life or is it better to know the cage you are trapped in? I like seeing the cage myself but I digress I know there are some that couldn't handle that. It may not be fair to shake them out of this thinking but sometimes when the benefits of showing them the harsh reality outweigh the bliss of being ignorant that step must be taken.

I like the fact that there is more free information out there. I guess I just dislike the fact that some of it preys on people's attentions and in my opinion it enslaves them just as much as the thing they were moving away from.

Anything is possible, and people believe different things and as long as someone believes in something "rumors", thruths and theories, will always be out there and one thing is for sure, there will always be one person that does know the difference, he/she that started the rumor being fact or fiction.

I don't believe in the back alley treaties, it is way too far fetched. The CEO's of companies are monetary vampires. They suck money from the populas, and distribute it to the political candidate of their choice. They have control on both ends of the spectrum.

Not very plausible.

the goverment does try to hide shit but most likely this is false

What makes you believe that this would be a false assumption, killer666?

Im sorry but i believe those in this post aare correct in stating that Blade is only a movie. The symbols used could be real and from some ancient text as hollywood writers tend to throw some basic realities into movies. But the idea of ancient vampires controling our government from back alleys is somewhat rediculous to believe from watching a movie.

I do not know about the whole thing with the vampires running the government, but I do think that there is a conspiracy or a motive behind everything that comes out of it.
Shadowgirl

I see many people posting in this thread that the concept of such organisations would be 'rediculous' or 'far-fetched', but have yet to see a single reason expounded as to why this theory is so.

Perhaps if someone might take the time to explain why they think that a vampyre, or cohort of them, would not want to control such institutions, then it might make for a better discussion.

I do agree that if vampires did run the underground world and they stay in the shadows it is best they stay there. For those just wrongfully turned into being a vampire could easily be corrupted and run amuk. You see how some people mearly acknlowedge their vampirism and see how they get consumed by it. Imagine what would happen if it happened on the physical level of immorality.