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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,986 [ Give / Take ] |
Here is an interesting parallel subject for those interested in vampiric activities. I was surprised to only find one thread in my forum search that even mentioned this.
From Wikipedia.org:
'The Chupacabra or Chupacabras is a creature said to inhabit parts of the Americas. It is associated particularly with Puerto Rico (where it was first reported), Mexico, and the United States, especially in the latter's Latin American communities.
The name, which translates literally from Spanish as "goat-sucker", comes from its reported habit of attacking and drinking the blood of livestock. Physical descriptions of the creature vary. Sightings began in Puerto Rico in the early 1990s, and have since been reported as far north as the Carolinas and as far south as Chile.
Though some argue that the chupacabra may be a real creature, mainstream scientists and experts generally contend that the chupacabra is a legendary creature, or a type of urban legend.'
I'd like to know if any of our Hispanic members have any family tales to share with us about this subject.
I've heard the stories about it. I've also heard the explainations about it. It was all very interesting and cool, but the explainations explain it all fpor the most part....its still cool to talk about though!
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The chupacabra has been the subject on The X-files, National Geographic, cartoons like Futurama, Grimm Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Dexter's Laboratory, Maya and Miguel, The Jackie Chan Adventures, and more.
My friends and I were conversating on this matter once... Some say that it got free from an experimental lab that caught fire at one time... I do remember the lab fire being in the news but they never disclosed what ever got free from the lab.... The fact that it was a genetics lab has me thinking though...
Sounds interesting. But like all other mystical creatures that they say are out there. No one knows for sure but it had to originate from somewhere.
So there could be one or something like it.
they are every where in south texas the stories I mean. It has even mad the local news. the reports of sightings and dead cattle. The last one was in dilley texas where a rancher claimed to have killed one but, it turned out after the wildlife dept. investigated that it was a rare breed of hairless mexican dog that has blue skin. so that is that until the next sighting in south texas.
I also saw that on television!! But still I believe it's got to be something doing that to those animals out there... Unless it's one hell of a hoax!!!
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lol, mrd :)
I watched the National Geographic documentary this evening- made me think of posting a thread about it. And in wikipedia I do believe it mentions accounts in Texas reported.
I hear first time about it, when the movie 'the mothman prophecies' came into the cinemas. they listed a few urban legends and mythical creatures. I guess every nationality has their own myths to explain things that cant be explained rational. like the yeti/bigfoot or nessie, the ogopogo in canada (i have seen it btw :P )
Could it possibly be the work of fire ants, mistaken for Chupacabra evidence?
And then maybe what he chased off was a coyote coming in for the remains.... but he saw it in bad light?
El Chupacabra.....quidado!!!
My Nana used to tell me stories of the chupacabra...she also added that it would come for bad children in the night..boy was I ever sooo good when I spent the night at her house!
The chupacabra is a long oral tradition in (no pum in intended) in Latin america. It has been used as a story to frighten children to mind their parents...interesting to see it make it to natioanl geo
I saw an unsolved mysteries special on it. they said it actually attacked a female and a lot of people saw one at a school. also they think it may have psychic powers of persuasion.
I have seen lots of shows and documentarys on this it fascinates me like all mystical creatures do:)
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Whatever the case may be- someone or some thing is behind these case of dead, blood-drained livestock- investigators/skeptics believe it to be a cult. Even though some people may use it as a scary 'story' for kids- actual killings are happenings. By who? Well, the Chupacabra has the same reputation as Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster :)
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I saw the X-FIles episode about El Chupacabra and the show explained it as people that had a reaction to something from the acid rain and their bodies ability to resist bacteria...somehow they linked it into El Chupacabra making people believe in Aliens...it was not one of the better episodes adn I love the X-Files!
Just like any story on the News There is a Part of Truth to everything Ive also heard of the stories and Had discussions on that creature would love to know more info myself
Yes, the goat sucker. About 10- 12 years ago there was rumor/sightings/drunken illusions, that one was running around in Miami.
Also, big in Puerto Rico and Mexico. An episode of the X-Files was devoted to this creature. There has been a movie on Sci-Fi within the last 6 months dealing with the subject
Well you mentioned it was considered by some as an Urban Legend . But do not most legends have a base in fact
Interestingly, the Chupacabra is the focus of my second expidition, right after the Mokele-mbembe (check my profile for details).
Descriptions range from a seven foot tall beast, to a three foot tall (baby?) goomba. It is said to be the reason for all sorts of bad happenings, including cattle death, and yes, child dissapearances (good thing you behaved yourself and grandmother's huh?). Interestingly, it is one of the few "mythical" creatures to have reported activity in all weather but mainly (though not always) at night, lending creedance, at least to this guy here, as to it's realism. It is reported to have no real care whether the blood is human or animal, as there have been reports of human attacks, usually ending in the creature being scared off before it can sink it's teeth in. Credable sightings (on continent) extend from mid-Mexico to south Texas, with other, less credible reports coming in from as far north as Oklahoma. Sightings of the creature have been the subject of stories for generations, ruling out the possibility that it is a lab experiment gone wrong.
Thats all I can remember off my head, (my notebooks of all things supernatural is back in the states) and some of it was jogged by you guys. Feel free to add what I forgot and whatnot.
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Glad to see more people aware of it. If you are the slightest bit interested in blood-sucking creatures (fact or fiction), add this one to your list :)
Sometimes it gets hard to believe it because with all of the advanced equipment they use to try to track it, still they come up with nothing.... Unless the genetics lab story is accurate and the government is covering it up...hmmmmm.
I've followed those stories quite well and the detail of info provided was enough to make me say..yeah...it's possible for it to exist.
I heard of these creatures a few times. Also, I found an article saying that such a creature was running around Texas, though I didn't get the details about it.
i watched a movie on the sci fi channel one day about this being and its sad how tv streatches all myths...but in my beliefes..every myth had a starting point from a truth
im originally fronm northcarolina and when i was a kid i was told storys of them ... from the old folks (the ones drinking moonshine).. so i dont know if there true or not but i believe they r..
probably just one of those things that could be true and could not be true, lie big foot or something. But it sounds awesome to have as a pet, but that bmight be a little mean to keep it caged up.
don't forget that it was featured in that program ages ago "Fortean TV" with that hippie reverand Father Lionel Fanthorpe
everyone has to remember that even if they r real or not they have been reported as extreemly dangerous...
I found this on a website:
EL Chupacabra
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By Bernard W. Kelly Sr. (bernard@theshadowlands.net)
Puerto Rico is a commonwealth of the United States Of America. Its golden
sun and white beaches have enticed tourist for years to this vacation
paradise. Just off the coast of the state of Florida. It is a short airplane
flight to this Island of delight.
In September of 1995, the first sighting occurred when Madeleine Tolentino
and other eyewitness described what has become known as the El Chupacabra or
the Goat Sucker in English. The eyewitnesses described the creature as being
a cross between a kangaroo and pop-culture conception of a “Gray.” Its height
was about 4 feet tall with a large head, a lip less mouth, fangs and lid less
red eyes. Its body was small and it had scrawny clawed arms and webbed bat
wings and muscular hind legs that appeared to be shaped for leaping.
Michael Negron a student at a local university said “I was looking off the
balcony one night, and I saw it step out of a bright light in the back yard.
It was three or four feet tall, with skin like that of a dinosaur, it had
bright eyes the size of hens eggs, long fangs and multicolored spikes down
its head and back.”
The predatory habits of the Chupacabra have always been toward livestock such
as Chickens, Rabbits, Goats and other small backyard livestock. IT kills its
prey through a single hole, which all of he blood is then removed from the
body. To date no humans have been killed by this creature even though many
have attempted to trap the creature over the years.
In March 1996 the Spanish - language talk show Christina, aired the story
about the El Chupacabra, and immediately following the airing of the show
there was an explosion of sightings from Mexico and the United States.
The El Chupacabra although seen by many has never been photograph and to this
day we have nothing but the eyewitness accounts and artist renderings.
Could so many eyewitnesses, be so wrong?
Sources : http://www.frii.com/~infor/elchupa.htm and Parascope @aol,com
thats like saying yeah we say one but we didnt get a photo .. hell they have photos of lochness but they stoll think theres nothing there...
I too seen the special on the discovery channel about them and I know there is a horror movie baring the name here is an interesting link
http://cryptozoo.monstrous.com/el_chupacabra.htm
you always put up some of the most interesting things. i think i saw this on opb once.
There is one thing i don´t understand...
How come El Chupacabra is not known in Europe as in Mexico.
Shouldn´t he be existant
in Portugal or Spain?
Never heard of that.
Did he never want to goto Spain or immigrate by ship?
Yeah Ive heard of it being an old legend, mainly from PR , it like some odd looking sharp teeth creature that looks to me a gargoil or something... I think its very interesting kinda like Big Foot lol :-)
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yes, I was living in Miami during that time.
I watched the National Geographic documentary a couple times. Whatever the case, the death of livestock is happening. We either have a bunch of people who are lying about the sightings along with having all their favorite animals dying, or there is something to this. It could very well be a cult causing the unexplainanble deaths. Cryptozooliogists confirm the animals were not killed by any known predators. They were not the marks or prints of anything we've discovered so far.
The only true, fake thing (oxymoron) is that some people are involved in hoaxes. the deaths are real, and simply unexplained. And we do have multiple countries, different cultures, and people who have not met who say the same thing.
I remember when I lived in Albuquerque NM, I heard numerous natives talk about el chupacabra. There was even a newspaper report about dead livestock around Santa Fe and some Native Americans believed it to be the result of el chupacabra. Hell, I saw plenty of strangeness in NM...it wouldnt surprise me if this myth was indeed fact.
it's kinda funny, I just saw a movie/documentary on this. It was said that the Chupacabra came over it America for experiments on a U.S. naval ship. Something along those lines.
Believe it or not, I'm actually going to step up to the plate here on this one.
http://azaz.essortment.com/goatmanlegend_rhcn.htm
I found this link among many others which I will list below when researching the this topic. First of all, the above link discusses something or someone called "The goatman" whom was supposedly mistaken as a monster, and thus where the Chubacabra legend originated from.
Kinda weird if you ask me. lol
http://skepdic.com/chupa.html
Here is another link to the "skeptic's dictionary" and interesting little peice on the Chubacabra.
http://www.supernaturaluniverse.com/staticpages/index.php?page=chupacabra
This link discusses the Chubacabra on a website called "The Supernatural Universe"
I wasn't too sure about this one either. However, ( and I will get to my opinion eventually....promise. :) The basics were all there.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/6280/chupa.html
There are some more little stories and such.
My opinion on this whole thing.
I was raised, on horror stories and such about the Chubacabra. Very interesting stuff. I was told about how they were so smart, they could open doors and unlock things.....they could understand human speech and it's patterns but not speak it themselves. They could smell fear....etc....these creatures were highly overrated. Blood red eyes...7ft in height. Considered very dangerously to farm animals and human alike. They were also considered canivores, hot just blood drinkers.
Yep....well I'd go on about what I think, but you get the main idea.
The Chubacabra is a hard one to touch down on, hard to say yes or no to it's reality. :)
chupacabras, very popular the guy is in the town of my grandfather, some people say he still around, i use to be afaid of him, untill he became my friend :)
now whe suck blood togethers
I have heard of this creature. I am unsure if it is the same name as stated in Sylvia Brownes book. But this creature Does exist.
Apparently, and please dont stike me down on this.
These creatures were placed on earth by extra terrestrials for research purposes.
People have reported seeing these creatures around places where UFO's or other paranormal activity in the sky was reported to be found by numerus people such as farmers and country folk.
i am mexican, and my people is from the south, so tell say that the chupacabras is only an other animal, some one that use to dont show up un public untill we destry they niche, my family say that one is killing they cows and other animals, i really dont know what to say
There is a movie coming to theatres I saw the trailer for. The pretext is they are on some small cruise ship and an unknown animal attacks most on board.
As I watched the trailer for it, the Chupacabra came to mind.
However, Hollywood has given it wings and surprisingly, a very 'vampiric' looking bat image...lol.
I'll be damned if I can remember the name of the film now though.
i've seen actually all of those shows about the chupacabra... futurama, billy and mandy, etc. ...i watch too much tv ::smile::
On one of my Python DVDs there's a trailer for a movie called Chupacabra. However, the creature they show preyed on humans on some South American riverboat... That's the only time I ever heard of the creature, which in the movie, was portrayed as big as a human.
i agree that all urban legends/mythes have some sort of basis in truth and i'd love to see an actual non touched up photo of one
Seen some interesting stuff on it, could be real who knows.
Saw this special two nights ago on the Discovering Channel. "Alien Vampire." Why does things always have to come from space? One of the investigaters claims it is a CIA experiment that got loose. Another guy is collecting hair samples and foot prints that are being left at the scene. All samples are turning out to be that of a dog.
If anyone claims the dog is from space, I will hit my head on the keyboard. :O
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lmao... 'DOOOOOOOOOOOGS in spaaaaaaaaaaaaaace' *to the tune of 'Pigs in Space' from The Muppets*
:)
I have heard the stories from south texas as well. I grew up in west Texas and most around there belive in the creature. I have not had an encounter with one myself, but do think it exists.
i live in Texas and have never heard of it. i have propety in south texas and have yet to have animals gone missing.
ive heared about this... i dont know if its real or not though
I too have heard this story, and watched the x-files episode. I belive the Chupacabra excists, but not in the way described above. But the story is enchanting none the less.
See i am from North Carolina and there was a reporting of this creture about 3 nights ago a entire goat farm was dead there blood sucked completely out
I am not certain on how true the story was though
I have watched several documentaries of scientist searching for the legendary creature, as well as other such similar creatures. People who have even claimed to have seen it and described it and they all seem to say the same things, much like the people who claim they seen aliens. Descriptions and stories seem to match in great detail, I wonder if these people all live in the same trailor parks or know each other so well that the stories being told are growing such as a rumor would with 1 detail changed for each person. It's not like me to think that such things dont exist because of the things i have seen in my life but its weird that every story i see is like listening to a recording over and over again but each time its a different voice.
The chupacabra has always been an interesting legend. Great info here.
this creature is definately real it exist nothing else could do the things that are reported after the sightings of the chupacabra
I don't think I've heard of this, though the name "Chupacabra" is familar - it's definately interesting though.
i didnt know what the chupacabra was until i started reading this thread...i saw the movie in rogers video, but was hesitant about renting it, 'cause i had no idea what a chupacabra was, had never heard of it, and ya, i need to get out more, or watch more tv, lol
The Chupacabra was a creature that was started in Hispanic legend but this creature is any thing but a legend i know i sound repetative about this but i want everyone to know that this creature is 100% real


My take on El Chupacabra is that it is a either:
a) A vampire whose thirst for blood has driven them so much that their bodies have begun to reflect the feral and primal desire for blood. Perhaps it is an outcome of vampires who have deprived themselves of blood for so long (or drink blood too often that they are even more dependent on blood)
b) Chupacabra is an alien- From reports to reading of your posts, I can also safely conclude that it may be an extraterrestrial. It has the big almost insectoid eyes characteristic to that of a Grey alien (the typical alien stereotype that has been brought into the mainstrema media), it is completely hairless (another common theme from alien abduction reports descriptions of the extraterrestrials), and it seems to be small in stature (not an alien trait per se, but still viable) at least from what I can gather from my own ideas and the few pictures there supposedly are of it (the famous "Milkbone" parody and the one just posted by Ishta).
Just my thoughts.
Yes i am from Hispanic descent and i beleive that story and also hispanic have many spells in which they throw dirt from a anthill on the front porch of a enemies house to curse the whole house and family in it.
Its their version of big foot, except much more horrific
I've heard stuff about Chupacabra for years. It's an interesting subject for sure.
Great subject, I have not read anything about the ol goat sucker for years.
we have heard things about it, but we take it as a joke i suppose like bigfoot .then again you don't ever know really.
i don't know much about it, but i would like to know more, do you have a web address that i could check out...
"The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is The Chupacabra"
The president of mexico speaks about Chupacabras
"The “Huay Chivo” Divides Opinion in the East "
The Huay Chivo Story
Wikipedia
"Chupacabra: A flying, blood-sucking kangaroo?"
Sightings
as a child I lived in both mexico and puerto rico with my grandparents. Let me tell you. I was scared to death of the Chupacabras. Especially because where i lived in Puerto Rico (Vasquez) there were a lot of missing dog issues running around thus the chupacabra was a very real thing to children. So when my grandmother told me to be in bed before the chupacabra came to get me. Hells yes I listened. But the description of what one is varies so much from person to person.
My grandmother told me it was short and thin with big eyes long nails grey scales with spikes on his back.
my grandfather said it was more like a big wolf thing with red eyes and a forked tongue.
so either way the way I saw it was there was something out there waiting for me. So I was pretty scared.
the chupacbra is nothing like big foot because the chupacabra exist and big foot doesn't but that is my opinion
I also have not heard alot about the chupacabra. I have enjoyed everything i have read here I have learned alot.
i heard something about it before, but thanks for the details you added! it was an interesting read.
il Chupacabra is the most known non human vampyric creature i think
The chupacabra is a rather recent mythology right? I've read that it started as recently as the 90's.
I myself believe that , like others have wrote, there are small bits of truth involved with most all myths or urban legends... However, the family that lives above me here in my apartment complex are from Puerto Rico. We were just speaking yesterday about the whole Chupacabra sightings thing. (funny how that happens isn't it? You talk about something you normally don't and then all of a sudden that subject is every where around you) ANYWAYS... This family truly believe in the Chupacabra. They claim to have lost live stock back home, and they are actually afraid of the Chupacabra.
They asid that some people live in suck fear of El CHupacabra that they won't allow their children to play near any live stock, etc. To them it is a malicious demon, and some feel that Chupacabra is controlled by those who practice Black Magic. They say that the beast is sent out by these practitioners to harm those who have wronged them....
the storys about chupacabras start in Puerto Rico but now are more in Carolina, Estados Unidos and Chile
okiy this is gona sound a bit pointless and basically dumb but any way;
the only time i ever heard about a chubacarbra is when i watched dexters labratory ( ure propbably thinkin get lost we dont wana hear this) anyway, yer because the bro n sis traveled to mexico to find the "chubacarbra" called CHARLIE and because the people of mexico hated it when they said "chubacarbra" the goats would run away (cuz the chubacarbra supposedly sucks goats) so , yeh thats all i heard of it i didnt even no it existed till the cartoon and now so ... yeh!
The X-files also did a Chupacabra episode. Where a man, was actually the chupacabra.
all of you talk about the chupacabra like it was something new, like it started to exist ten years ago, but the legend of the chupacabra is old.
some of you posted that their grandparents told them about that creature... so you see its not about 20 years old myth..
the myth of the chupacabra goes back to the old aztek culture that was spread over latin america and the south of the usa. in their mythology existed something like the chupacabra and it is still alive like a lot other myths and traditions. the hispanics integrated their old believs in the christian believ and so the chupacabra was born and still alive..
if it really exists or not is not known
Genuine Blood - I can't find any written history on the Chupacabra that goes past Puerto Rico 1992 except one mention in 1975 that referred to El Vampiro de Moca.
now we are back at the year 75..
i have to admit i made a mistake. its not from the azteks its from the maya in peru and its name was canchus.. that is my mystake...
i will do a bit more research.. till i can prove a whole line to you with links books and all that stuff.. hope i have the time for it
damn it.. cant find anything.. i guess i mixed something up.. sorry for my wrong thread... like i said the old indians in peru believed in vampires.. i didnt found anything about mexico, but that would need better research to make it sure..
again i am REALLY SORRY FOR THE WRONG INFORMATION I POSTED BEFORE
Not know to much about it.. just its a legend to scare little kids..... or that's what they say..... but i believe all legends have their real thing somewhere......
i believe that there is some animal out there that may look a little funky but maybe the details of what it truely looks like or acts like were elaborated to make it seem more interesting
Genuine Blood- I don't doubt you that there are histories or folklore from other countries that involve livestock victims of some kind of vampiric nature...
I was just saying that the term Chupacabra is first used in 92. Obviously with the global folklore for vampires out there, some of those countries had livestock as victims. That's why I mentioned the rain forrest 'mosquito man' legend. No apology necessary.
We need to find the orgin of the chupacbra so we could better understand the orgins of the creature and why it only would prey on livestock and not humans
so if there is the bite marks on the necks of the animals and scientists still say its all a myth? If sum1 wants 2 stage that 4 that longer distance then they r going 2 alot of trouble to prove something.
so true but there must be more than one chupacabra out there because there has been mutliple reported sighting of the creature all in one night or within a very short amount of time. Like there was one here in North Carolina then the next night there was a reporting in Texas.
It's amazing how once the media get ahold of the story, the details and events surrounding it are blown out of proportion. They all want to be the first to prove that it doesn't exist.
i'm not hispanic but i heard in a myth that if you get bit by the chupacabra you will turn into one yourself at the setting of every sun.
in the 5th to 7th grade i was called le chupacabra. this was bcuz i bit an 8th grader on the arm when he tried to take sumthing of mine in the 5th grade. No body bothered me for anything after that!
el chupacabre= a mythis creature,one that sucks the blood or liife force from it's victims in attempts to gain supernatural power to sustain it's own life....why not ,there are lykens,goblins,dwarfs,trolls,every myth is derived from one truth or another,who's to say that they are not just another form of a vampire,possibly related to the nosferatu,cuz they are some ugly vamps,my grandfather supposedly was attacked by one and it killed my great grandfather,and y the hell does it attack mainly hispanics,must be a rascist vamp,lol
i Have found this website whihc gives a nice description and whats all about..... plus some reviews.
http://skepdic.com/chupa.html
MstJuan - of course since that's the "skeptics dictionary", you may get some blowback from those that are really keen on the idea that it exists. To quote your source, "Nobody wants to read a story with the headline: Chupacabra turns out to be Chihuahua."
i have heard of them,but know nothing, happy and willing to learn though!
The ol goat sucker eh? I have heard of them. I also heard they can only kill very small farm animals. I seen a movie about them on Sci-Fi. They made them out to be man eaters. LOL -It was pretty damn funny. I have most likly hit one with my car while drunk. Come to think of it, so have most of you I bet. :D
I've heard of them as well alot from this forum as well =D Thanks.
but is always good to read from a skptic point of view .
You are one of the most intelligent people posting subject matter on the forum. I wish to thank you for that. I have a problem with dumb people who share their stupidity with the rest of us. I have heard the legend of Chupacabra. The first time was from a Cuban friend of mine.
This is an interesting subject....I don't believe myself in this creature not to say it doesn't exist..I rather tend to think that maybe Vampire bats are in these areas..I don't know this as fact as I have never studied vampire bats...The siteings might be something strange something they couldn't explain
Interesting imageswords i remember the story well it is indeed real.
funny that you say they carolinas,,they have allways had mysterios horse attacts
well, I believe there is some truth to it, but it is a story so how much truth to it depends on how much you believe in it.
MstJuan - I tend to agree with you...though too skeptical is just as bad as blind faith. Both require a closed mind.
Mikhail - Vampire bats typically don't kill because of the tiny quantities they actually feed on. Also, a vampire bat doesn't really leave to 'suction holes'. They bite an actual wound and then lap at the blood like a cat. To have a dead farm animal exsanguinated (bled dry) and to have a couple of suction marks on the beast...seems to require a different type of predator...that being said, a lot of the autopsies (as MstJuan pointed out with his article) end up being dead for a variety of more natural causes.
**I put this in the same unsolved category as UFO's and certain forms of spiritism - if there is truth to it, it's been so horribly muddied by pranskters, fanatical believers AND fanatical unbelievers, that we'll likely never find a truth that will effectively end debate on the subject.