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are all ghosts spirits from the past, or could there also be ghosts from the future? if someone was struck by a dark matter meteorite, they might be affected by tachyon radiation, which might somehow send energy backwards through time. maybe aliens and UFOs are not really from another world, but ghosts from the distant future. what do people think?

Hmm...i've heard of people appearing as ghosts to loved ones just before a tragedy struck the person who appeared, so that could kind of be a future ghost I suppose, but as for way out in the future...dunno. I'm not too sure in my own mind about time travel and all that kind of stuff just confuses the hell outta me!

This was very interesting question. I think somehow a ghost can do timetravellings in same time it feels they couldent. But first of all to find a answer on that so do i think we need clearifie what a ghost really is. Many says it is a spirit that dont have finded peace when it left the living body and are therefore stuck in middle somewhere. That is what i think a ghost are. Maybe the time is inrelevant for a ghost? Maybe a ghost can travell to any certain date it want? Maybe that is what ghost can do so it can find the peace? Well i really dont know this was just a teory i have.

a ghost of some-one not born yet?
interesting. but something one couldnt believe without it happening to them personaly.

A time traveling ghost ..huh the arguement could be there, yet i sense it would lose a battle among the theorists. no to time traveling ghosts from the future.

Anything is possible i guess, but would not a ghost have to be alive first then turn into a ghost after it died?...

well i think with ghosts anything is pos but untill we can prove ghosts are real then its a bit hard to think of future ghosts as you have called them

well, a lot of people believe that ghosts are a rift in time - if that is the case, then why can't it work both ways?

I am going to answer you in an odd way.
I am one who believes in Wormholes. Being able to jump from time to time /dimension to dimension.
For three full years BEFORE my car accident, I was feeling the physical pain that one would only expect to feel after. And once the accident happened, my pain was limited.
I feel that if you can have a physical/emotional/mental happening that intense, there can only be one reason.
Wormholes.
And since you have asked about future ghosts, could this not be a wormhole?
So yes, I do believe in future ghosts. A manifestation of something so traumatic it sends a ripple through your timeframe.

arift in time persay to aparrelle world which was. not a leap in time. many spirits are those who have died and still roam the parts in which they are safe to them. And the quirk to this is if a ghost from the future came, would it be evil, for it is truly lost and uncomfortable with its surrroundings. a question i pose. i sy no time travelers but a ripp in the fabric of life and death. humans and the spirit world.

That's a really interesting thought. I'm not sure. Kind of like The Ghost of Christmas Past, Present, and Future =D
Maybe there could be. Maybe it's ghosts that cause premonitions and visions, they somehow enter your thoughts...
Maybe these "future ghosts" have some sort of capability that regular "past ghosts" don't have?

intresting topic but I belive for it to be a future ghost person from future would have to die etc and I just dont see that as possible

Same here I have heard/experienced ghost/spirits appearing right before something happening to that person but I'm not sure that it's the same thing.

as time can only go forward, it is not possible for the futur ot come backwards. As time cannot go back. So it is impossible and illogical that it could happen

that would be the case if your statement was true - however it has been scientifically proven that time can turn back.

I dont believe its possible

I have heard that it has in fact been proven that scientist have been able to peak into the past.

I believe this is another subject of the quantum theories, it is known that the ethereal is connected to the theories, I would not doubt the time travel paradox.

That's a really good thought -- but if that happened , would they be ghosts or time travelers ?

Good point, as no one knows what a time travelers appearance would precipitate into.

No such thing as ghosts = no such thing as future ghosts, tho it makes for some interesting fiction.

Talk about pessemistic Scatterball, you seem moody tonight.

Nope. This is how I always am.

LOL, more power to you. But explaining the unexplained in the simple denying such broad ranges of theories, would you denie the fact if it stood in front of you?

Of course not. But given that will never happen, I'm not so worried.

Simple fact is, with the amount of people who have "proof" of these things, someone should have offered up some concrete proof.

Yet none exists. Gosh.

thats a good chance yes....

my mom's ex husband, saw his father, while he was ice fishing, and is father was separated by a body of water at that time.....and mom's ex hubby said that his father said good bye...

then he got a phone call few hours later, that his father passed on, so yes it is a good chance....

Well considering time only exists on this plane, it is possible a ghost could go to the future to warn themselves or try to pass on information to loved ones before death.

As for the metorite theory, well you lost me there sounded like an episode of Star Trek lol, but a very interesting discussing.

I agree with RagingDarkness, you're assuming that the dimension of time means anything for an ethereal being. If they can walk through physical objects, why not walk through years?

Well, I'm certainly not going to rule out that it may be possible for a ghost to travel through time, but I think it's HIGHLY unlikely.

I guess that we will never know until we actually become ghosts ourselves, and do you all know what that means? Yes, it means it's too late to tell anyone else what you have discovered, you're dead.

I've heard stories of 'rips' appearing in time, very rarely, but one might see someone from the future or the past. Not a ghost at all, but a glimpse into a different time.
I read a story about a young man from the current day and a grown man from centuries ago, appearing in eachother's bathrooms and both being very surprised to see the other there.

I have a theory that your more likely the walk the earth is you died in greivence...Is that a word? Alot of ghosts that "Mediums" Come across 9/10 times always give a unhappy reason why there there. In this day and age, i guess more people are just happy to let go of this world and move into the next

Good question. As I understand it, time is a dimension with both forward and back directions. We can only go forward, like a car without a reverse gear (and we can change the speed at which we move through time but that is a different argument)

Ghosts as I understand them - are manifestaions of our current existence in a different dimension(s). The fact that this dimension exists in such a way as to circumvent our perceived understanding of time, I see no reason why they cannot come from the future. Assuming we have one that is.

Time is a non-linear experience for essential energy being, or 'soul', before its choosing to come into the physical manifestation of existence.

If it is held that ghosts exists and are the disembodied souls of individuals, then they themselves would not be bound by the same parameters of space and time as living people.

Perhaps this is why a ghost can be said to inhabit a location for centuries, without appearing to change.

I tend to think of time as somewhat linear, in that we travel along it like a car travels along a road. Along this road are many, infinite directions we could take, but they all tend to go in one direction.

Normally. Now, as for travelling back or forwards in time, according to Einstein this was not possible because you would need to exceed the speed of light, which he claims is theoritically impossible. However, close to the speed of light, time starts to slow down or bend, and therefore leads to the possibility of stopping altogether, and maybe even reversing.

Of course, this is all just speculation from my end at the minute, since we've not got a living person to go that fast so far.

Just my coupla coins

Toothache42,

Time is only linear by perception within one single lifetime. You are considering that these would be living entities, which it has been supposed that they are not.

Would it be possible for you use Einstien's theorems to explain how a persons soul, their indestructible energy pattern, could come to exist outside of physical space and therefore, time and subsequently be capable of travelling to any point, across any timeline?

i wasn't presupposing that the "ghost" in question be a sentient being - rather an image. seeing as a tachyon is an accelerated light particle that travels backwards through time, then it would be theoretically capable of carrying energy, or an image back through time.

it is natural for someone with a rudimentary knowledge of physics to repeat what their old science teachers told them about why time travel is impossible; but the universe is far more complex than Newton imagined, and more and more serious scientists are beginning to accept time travel as a theoretical possibility. even Stephen Hawkins has changed his stance on this.

I lean more to the belief that pre-death encounters are a form of astral projection.

it's not a new idea - Charles dickens wrote a ghost story about a man who sees the ghost of himself from the future in "the Signal-man"

maybe that's how nostradamus and mother shipton got their prophesies - ghosts from the future.

the more i read and look into things the more i think anything is possible....

if scatterspell doesnt believe in ghosts, why post in this thread? oh i get it - he wants to bump his post score - lol

interesting it could be possible

i dont know if ghosts die so id say ghost are ghost now or then

thats an interesting theory..that could be possible....

i think it would likely be just in the past ghosts can appiar to people becuase the question I would ask how would a ghost from a future be in the present if that event in question hasnt happened yet?

read what i said earlier - dont just jump from the top post to the bottom without reading whats in between

Time is not linear, so I suppose it is possible. I don't know that I'd label then ghosts, those being th spirits of dead humans...but yes, spirits of people that will live in a time that we would perceive as the future...I'd go along with that.

I am not sure if this is possible for a ghost to come from the future as you have to be dead to be a ghost so there for if you are not dead how can you come back as a spirit and show yourself to someone.

I think and do believe in time rifts etc -- how else can a ghost from the past come back to the present to warn you about event or disasters not yet happened.
So if they can move freely through time and walls -- why not a ghost coming back through time!

that might be possible

I had never thought about it before. If there are ghosts from the past, I don't see why it's not possible for there to be ghosts from the future.

the idea of time being one dimensional - the future has not happened and the past is gone - is now almost totally defunct. in the past people believed there was only now, and that the past is dust, and the future yet unformed. but now we view the wholeness of time as a vast space time continuum with what we call the present just being one moving point - our one perspective.

there are a few philosophers that believe something only exists whilst it is being experienced, but that is the thought process of a new born baby, who is totally bemused by the way you suddenly cease to exist because you hide your face behind your hands. if i shut a ball up inside a solid box, it does not cease to exist just because i cant see it anymore. nor does it cease to be a sphere just because it can't roll anymore.

it's like the old zen question "if a tree falls in a forest and there is no-one there to hear it, does it make a sound?"

of course it does you bald headed twat.

if Buddhists want to ask a clever enigmatic question, then why not ask "if i tell a joke and nobody laughs, is it not funny?"

anyway, what sort of forest are they talking about? where is this forest? if there was nobody there to hear it fall, how do we know it fell? you see that's what's wrong with philosophers, they ask a question to which they believe has no answer, and never expect to be answered with yet another question.

This was very interesting question

very interesting topic i suppose this could be in fact a reality with the different plains we have in existance.. id be highlyinterested to learn more of this topic

I read a Astronomy book about the grey aliens, there is a place called Zeta Retaculi, which is in the Retaculim constellation about 37 light years away, Zeta is supposed to be the home planet of the Greys. There knowledge is far greater then humans and they have advanced technology. they seem to be well in the future, books say that the Greys have evolved over millions of years in the Universe from Carbon based life forms. Zeta Retaculi is a main sequence star, similer to our sun, which is a yellow dwatf, there planet is in the habitable zone, it's known as the giant water planet.

Okay, we discussed the hierachy of Gods in a different post, so why not a hierachy of ghosts as well.

isnt that where Archeron is? where the Nostromo discovered "Alien"

i havent seen any ghost from the future.....all i have seen are from the past.
I would think it be a little weird to see one from the future...you wouldnt know what to expect.

It is a very good possibility. Thats where I think people like nausterdomis got their visions from.

wow - i was thinking the exact same thing. and maybe leonardo da vinci too. and as i said at the beginning, maybe ufos and aliens are really ghosts of the future. they certainly behave much like ghosts.

I had never thought of that. I suppose if ghosts from the past can visit, so can ghosts of the future

A ghost is what is left behind of someone departed, a kind of recurring phantasm of their past selves. For someone to be a ghost as we think of it, you must be dead. So, can there be such a thing as future ghosts, and can these aliens be future ghosts? I think there are no extra-terrestrials, only poorly evidenced phenomanon.

Some folk believe in reincarnation. If I have that right it is the spirit hopping from the old body into a new one. The spirit hopping from the present body into the future one.

If a ghost is a 'lost' spirit why is not possible for it to get lost from a future body and drift around until the present catch up with it.

Not very well put I know, but i hope you can catch the drift

as i had seen above about the ghost haveing to die first toi come again that does make sence and the topic does confuse me when i see others opinions hmm this is a interesting topic do hope to hear more

your theory is interesting but I do not agree. I don't believe anything physical can come back from the future. I believe in having premonitions where you see a moment in time that takes place in the future.

Very interesting theory. Well, if this is valid I hope that they will help us a bit because the world goes like *bleep*.
Yet, I think that if anyone -even ghost- came here back from the future, it would be quite unwise to interfere with us -at least not very carefully- , as such an action could have terrible impact.

I have to say, I've never really thought of it that way. I suppose it's possible...but I personally think it's kind of unlikely. I'm not sure that energy from the future could be in the present time. I don't really know though...I'd have to think about this a little more.

scientists used to believe the same thing - energy from the future cannot exist in the past, but einstien disproved that, and now they have learned to look at the whole space time continuum in a different way. mathematicians have used computer programs to prove that in theory at least, it is possible. as for someone (spirit or living) from the future influencing someone in the past - how is this any different from prophesy and precognition? time is not linear anyway.

i think they are only from the past.

face it we're all future ghosts.