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Lesava
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http://www.studiesoftheparanormal.com/evp.html

This is the recording of ghostly voices on audio tape and other audio recording devices. EVP recordings are heard under the white noise, that static, fuzzy noise you get when you are between radio stations or when playing back a blank tape. These voices can be fuzzy and hard to hear, and others can be more obvious and easy to understand. There are some EVP recordings that don’t make any sense and others sometimes speak directly to the people doing the recordings and are able to reveal personal and private information and answer researchers’ questions. These recordings are not very long and often spirits use bad grammar, but then again, so do a lot of living people. Animal sounds have been found on EVP recordings as well. EVP can only be heard on the playback of the tape and not while the recording is taking place. Just like how pictures reveal paranormal things to us that are eyes could not pick up, an audio recorder can do the same for paranormal sounds.

When attempting to do your own EVP recording remember to always use fresh, brand new tapes to avoid any old recordings to bleed through to the tape and be misinterpreted to be something it isn’t. Also, when doing an EVP recording avoid any background noises and only talk when you are asking the questions you hope to have answered by the spirits. You should also consider using an external microphone with your audio recorder. This will also help prevent any internal noise from the recorder you don’t want on the recording. Night is probably the best time to do an EVP recording. Since most people sleep at night there is less broadcasting going on. The most serious EVP researchers will use the highest quality of tape, sensitive microphones, and amplifiers to increase the quality of the recording.

Using audio tape to get messages from the deceased is the first in which true technology was used in spirit communication. The idea began with Thomas Edison in the early 20th century but was not taken seriously until a man named Friedrich Jurgenson in 1959 found a voiceon a tape he used to record bird songs. He later found more voices on other recordings with new, specific information on him and informed Jurgenson how to perform further EVP recordings. He eventually wrote a couple of books called Voices from the Universe, and Breakthrough.

Recording EVP is not a perfect science. For one thing, all kinds of electronic equipment can obtain radio signals and no matter how much you try to filter these signals out, this possibility will exist. Also, there is so much static and white noise that it is extremely difficult to make out the messages. Skeptics say it's just electronic malfunctions creating the so called ghost messages. Other skeptics believe the voices are made on the tape by psychokinesis of the person recording. He or she will want to hear the voices so bad that they will in fact create them themselves.




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Great info. I think there are a couple other posts on this subject here as well, might be worth looking at those as well if you’re at all interested in this. I find it utterly fascinating.



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Yeah, I think there is two others that you might be interested from a while back. =)


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I used both a digital recorder and a tape recorder at a supposed haunted house my best friend lived in...but never picked up anything..even though he and his then wife were hearing things while I was there



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I've tried this a few times. After my last experience, I'll never do it again. It was one of the scariest experiences of my life.



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this stuff freaks me out, its really out of the range of normal science...idk it has to have an explaination, just we havent found it yet.



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Lightningsking
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Myself and a group of friends do EVP's. i use a digital recorder and my one friend uses a recorder with tape. We have had much success in getting recordings. When doing EVP's u will not always get spirits communicating with u



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Shit freaks me out too MM.Only,I have a tendency to swing the other way,in thta I believe it could be possibe to explain it with science,one way or another,someday perhaps.



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Some of the ones I've heard have been super creepy. I still haven't had the compulsion to do it myself. I think I might be freaked out if I actually heard something here.



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Some people believe that this is caused by earths inconstant magnetic force. There are many different types of energy forces which could cause such a reaction.



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Lesava
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Pandora, I'm in agreeance with you on this; there are so many energy forces around us, and I think that must have something to do with it. I myself would not attempt this, I don't feel I would be handle it



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purplehaze76
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i would love yto try this and see how it comes out



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Lesava
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You must be prepared for what the outcome is, because it seems to freak out most people when it does happen



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I have a few things me and some friends from way back recorded while we did our urban exploring.... Very interting stuff.. I really think its something , someone trying to just communicate..



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I've also heard it was the background noise of our universe, the leftover noise of the big bang. But I have also heard that is was a disembodied voice.



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I have never been sure why.. but EVP is one thing just just freaks me out to no end. Its not that I do not believe in ghosts.. I see them daily.. hear them at times. But something about EVP just makes my skin crawl. I know a few others that also have this reaction altho I am aware tis by far not the norm.



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Akeiana
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I would be freaked out, I don't know what I would expect of it , however if I get a chance and I am in the mood to do it I might try it.
Just not when I'm all alone.
But interesting topic and thought. I have heard of some music recored, where artists sings and when his voice is played backwards on the tape there's some message.



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Lesava
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Whenever I have watched these happen on TV, they truly make me shiver. It's almost as if I heard something that I was not supposed to, that it's privileged information or something.



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I've tried doing this a few times and I haven't caught anything worth wild. I've seen it done on TV and some of it I believe, and others I'm not too sure about.



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I do not think I believe its privledged info. That could be part of it I suppose. But I love the haunted and ghost shows on alot of the networks now and I admit the second they start talking of doing this I will dive for the remote to change it.



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Lesava
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I'm the kind of person that keeps to myself, so perhaps hearing these things isn't something I should be doing, and could come back to haunt, or maybe hurt, me later on



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Theshining1
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Electronic Voice Phenomenon

this link i found and has a couple of videos. check it out..


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I would think it be the same as if they want or dont wanna be seen if they want to be heard you will hear them



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Lesava
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I saw the article, and thought it would make for a good thread *smiling*



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Lightningsking
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Reading the different posts i see peopel saying these EVP's can be explained by science or magnetic fields, etc.

Well I have done them and we have asked specific questions and we get answers to those questions. And to make sure that we do not persude each other as to the answers we will write down on paper what we heard the spirit answer



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Theshining1
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i think this thread dezerves to be looked into more then what it is.. i use to play with the [rograms out there like a voice changer.. and when i heard the videos i gave here sounded like a voice changer..

i want to believe deeply into some thing like this but its jard to when there is such tools and software



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Lesava
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Another article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_voice_phenomenon

Electronic voice phenomena (EVP) are sections of static on the radio or on electronic recording media that some persons interpret to be the sound of voices. Some attribute these noises to ghosts or spirits, while others attribute the voice-like aspect of the sounds to auditory pareidolia. According to parapsychologist Konstantin Raudive, who popularized the idea, the "voices" are typically brief, usually the length of a word or short phrase. Later authors have said that they have been heard on diverse media, including radio, television, tape recorders, video recorders, and digital recording devices, and that they sometimes are answers to questions asked during the taping. EVP are considered by paranormal researchers to be a subset of instrumental transcommunication (ITC).

The possibility of spirit communication through electronic recording devices has been reported since at least the 1940s. Originally labeled “Raudive Voices”, after Raudive, they were later renamed “electronic voice phenomena”, a term introduced by the publishing company Colin Smythe Ltd in the early 1970s. The explanation that EVP are produced by spirits of the deceased was first introduced by American photographer Attila Von Szalay, who believed he recorded the voice of a dead loved one in 1956. This lead to further claims made up until the 1970s, notably by psychologists Raymond Bayless and Konstantin Raudive, and film producer Friedrich Jürgenson. In 1980, inventor William O'Neill, backed by industrialist George Meek, built a 'Spiricom' device which was said to facilitate very clear communication with the spirit world through EVP.

In addition to deceased spirits, various paranormal believers have suggested that EVP could be due to psychic echoes from the past, psychokinesis unconsciously produced by living people, and the thoughts of aliens. More prosaic explanations include apophenia (finding of significance or connections between insignificant or unrelated phenomena), pareidolia (interpreting random sounds into voices in their own language which might otherwise sound like random noise to a foreign speaker), artifacts due to low-quality equipment, or simple hoaxes.

EVP has become a tool of paranormal investigators, used when attempting to contact the souls of dead loved ones or during ghost hunting activities. References to EVP have appeared in the reality television show Ghost Hunters, the fictional Supernatural and Hollywood films such as White Noise and The Sixth Sense.



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Lesava
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I found another article that is good reading:

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa020303a.htm



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One of my favorite TV shows is Ghost hunters it is really cool when they have the live interactive show and they go through all the EVP information and shows you the machines that can be used so on so forth.



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I would love just once to catch something on recordings...



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I am not freaked out by it.
For me it happens all the time.
the radio fuzzes every so often & it is perfectly tuned, TV's going blurry, computers turning off.
I just wish i could record it.



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when you hear someones recorder is it real or someone trying to get attention from people



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Would it work the same with digital recording or would the newer technology reduce the chance by cancelling the background noise



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i think as we advance we will be able to tell more easily the fake from the real



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Theshining1
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plz id like to know the difference to..



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Lesava
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Skittles, I think with the newer technology, we will be able to find out once and for all the fakes from reality, and get to truly hear what is being said



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I actually believe this is a possiblity. I mean why wouldn't spirits be able to use radio frequency? Lesava thanks for the info.



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Lesava
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My pleasure, Gwendolyn, it's a topic that has always fascinated me, and I wanted to share it here *smiling*



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Lesava
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http://www.aaevp.com/

Here's a website that I found had very useful information on the topic as well



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I love the show ghost hunters and I like that they do everything right there on camera for you to watch. I think there is definitely the possibility of things out there that we cant see or hear that might be picked up on audio tape or thermal imaging.....we are all energy and nothing truly ends...it just changes form. Do I think that we might be messing with something never intended to me messed with? Possibly. As was said before, if we are meant to see it or hear it, it will be made evident to us. Does the idea intrigue me anyway? ABSOLUTELY!



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What fascinates me is that some of us here communicate with spirits in one way or another, yet recording them still "freaks us out". Is it because, as others have said, the recordings seem to be privileged information? Are we eavesdropping, in a sense?



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scared me badly



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I doubt if SarraS will stop by on a second EVP thread to explain it but what I gathered from his knowledge was this...

White noise is almost an impossibility because everything we have technologically to receive signals will be able to pick up SOME background noise from somewhere including cassette tapes and especially TV and Radio. Grey noise is what most people mistake for white and is things like your TV static. Since it's not completely clean, anything picked up (ie EVP) can't be definitively paranormal...because there's still background noise and a therefore tainted control in the experiment.

However, if something significantly outside the normal EVP results were to occur (such as clear and relative messages as opposed to vague and nearly indiscernable garbled sounds)...if something that straightforward occured, then you'd have a more limited choice of possible answers like either genuine paranormal experience or fraud.



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I never listened to this I wasnt really interested in it however I get a bit spooked when there are things that I can't control, so I would rather not dabbled in an area that I have no business in



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Very great information, Les. =] It was really informative.



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It intrigues me, and at the same time scares me! I believe it is possible to record a voice from beyond. My problem would be: are they a happy spirit or a malevolent one who might be able to cross over...



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Lesava
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Tzaddi, that is why my opinion is that you shouldn't get involved with this kind of thing unless you have a strong spirit, and would be able to fight off anything negative that might come at you



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If you want to hear something, you will. It's similar to when you're waiting for a visitor and you keep hearing car doors outside or some other noise associated with someone arriving at your home. You look out the window and there's no one there.

The mind (including eyes and ears) play tricks on you.



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I love evp’s, in fact me and a few friends go after them once in a while. You see it is said that it is so low a decibel the human ear cannot hear it when they speak, but an animal can. We have gotten a few interesting recordings on occasion. I think there is something to the EVP concept, but it will take more time to truly explain and understand it.



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EVPS are cool I belive if you got all the right cp stuff to back it up after you retrive the videos and tapes this stuff cant be made up. IMO.



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Lesava
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Boneyardvixen, you could be right in your statement *smiling*



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Yep I have recorded an EVP before and it was a deep, scary voice! It gave us chills. Totally unexpected. I can't seem to find that tape now. =(



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Me and my dad, sometimes do a little ghost hunting. We have had quite alot of e.v.p's they really creep me out but it intresting that they can comminicate to you that way



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A buddy of mine and myself have done some ghost hunting too. Never heard of or reorded anything though.



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Great info, Les. ;-] And very good subject.



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yes i agree very good info and thanx for the site...i shall check it out



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i would LOVE to try it but i am a big chicken......lol.....



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Lesava i think this artical will help ,well i hope it will anyways i went searching for you on this subject.ck this out and see.

Electronic Voice Phenomena
Voices of the Dead?
James E. Alcock, PhD
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When we talk about communication with the dead, we are usually referring to “mediums” who talk to the dead on our behalf, or who allow the dead to speak to us through them.

What if, instead the dead could speak to us directly, without the middle person?

If You Survive Death…?
Imagine for a moment that you are the dead person, that your body has died, but your mind / personality / soul lives on. You are surprised by this, and you want to tell people, especially your skeptical friends, all about it – you want to communicate with us.

What would you do?

You have no voice box therefore you cannot speak. You have no arms or legs or any means of moving objects. But you are – as they say – an “energy field.” Could you reach us by interference with devices that rely upon other energy fields, a radio or tape recorder, for example?

But if you were able to generate some sounds on a tape recorder, would any one even detect them, or pay attention if they did? It’s often hard to detect weak signals – and you are but a wraith, a spirit, and probably without a lot of energy.

However, there is hope for humans, as Ray Hyman points out, because humans are the best pattern detectors in existence. Pattern detection, in this example, would be the ability to discriminate signal from noise.

Voices of the Dead?
This is exactly what is happening, according to some people. If you listen carefully, they say, you can hear the voices of the dead in tape recordings.

What do the voices of the dead sound like? Here are two examples of actual recordings where people claim to hear spoken words, the words of the dead.

This from the webpage http://members.tripod.com/~GSOLTESZ/evp.htm#listen:
“In this EVP recording, you can hear a voice saying, almost in agony, ..."Save Me."
You might have to play it a couple of times but you can't miss it. This recording has only been enhanced by myself using a sound editing program. The reason was to cut down on the "noise" and "bring out" the actual voice.

"Save Me"
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Here are two other examples from Dr. Michael Daniels, psychologist and parapsychologist (www.mdani.demon.co.uk)

Example 1
Example 2
The website instructs:
"To hear the voices at their best you should play them at maximum volume through headphones. In both cases you should be able to hear a definite "English" male voice. You may need to replay the recordings several times in order to make out the words, which are quite indistinct. The first clip seems to be saying something like "do you like potatoes?". The second clip sounds to me rather like "five thirty and four-eye". Different words may suggest themselves to you." (Dr. Daniels points out that there is divided opinion about the reality of EVP).

Electronic Voice Phenomena
So – it’s not so easy to hear the voices, is it? These are examples of what are called electronic voice phenomena, or EVP.

We are informed by another website that:

“EVP is a process whereby unexplained snatches of voice or voices are embedded onto magnetic recording tape by a process that is not yet fully understood. The embedded "ghost" voice can be heard when the magnetic audio tape is played back on a standard tape recorder/player.”
(www.hauntedhike.com)

Again, the Web informs us that:

“Recordings typically last only for a few minutes. This is because intense concentration is required in order to hear the voices on the tape, which usually has to be replayed several times in order to decipher the speech. Use of headphones is recommended.”
(www.mdani.demon.co.uk)

The best way to understand the development of EVP it is to go back a little in time.

With the rise of Spiritualism beginning with the “mysterious rappings” of the Fox sisters in the nineteenth century, there have been many attempts to “contact the dead,” while claiming to be engaged in scientific study.

Thomas Edison saw new technology, part of which he invented, as a means by which spirits might try to contact us. Apparently, he strove to make contact through some sort of phonograph device in the 1890s. Then, in the late 1920s, he tried to make contact with the souls of the dearly departed by means of some sort of special chemical equipment. It is claimed that spirit voices were first captured on phonograph records in 1938, seven years after his death.

However, it was with Friedrich Jürgenson (1903-1987) that the study of EVP really begins. Jürgenson was in some ways a Renaissance Man – an archeologist, a philosopher, a linguist, a painter who was commissioned by Pope Pius XII, a singer and recording artist, and a film documentary maker. . Jürgenson’s interest in Electronic Voice Phenomena apparently began when, after having recording bird songs with a tape recorder, he could hear human voices on the tapes, even though there had been no one in the vicinity.

This surprising event naturally piqued his interest, and he turned his attention to making recordings of nothing – that is, recordings made in a quite place with no one around. He continued to detect voices on these tapes, and his studies led to the 1964 publication of his book Rosterna fran Rymden (“Voices from space”).

He subsequently recognized some of the voices that his tape recorder picked up, including that of his mother, who called him by her pet nickname for him. However, as we say where I grew up, his mother was already “on the wrong side of the grass;” that is, she was deceased. It seemed natural to him to assume that she was communicating from beyond the grave. Thus, he came to the conclusion that all the voices that he had recorded were voices of the dead. In 1967, he published Sprechfunk mit Verstorbenen (“Radio-link with the dead”).

Dr Konstantin Raudive (1906-1974), a student of Carl Jung, was a Latvian psychologist who taught at the University of Uppsala in Sweden. He was preoccupied with parapsychological interests all his life, and especially with the possibility of life after death, and he kept in close contact with leading British psychical researchers

In 1964, Raudive read Jürgenson’s book, Voices from space, and was so impressed by it that he arranged to meet Jürgenson in 1965. He then worked with Jürgenson to make some EVP recordings, but their first efforts bore little fruit, although they believed that they could hear very weak, muddled, voices.

However, one night, as he listened to one recording, he clearly heard a number of voices- and when he played the tape over and over, he came to understand all of them – some of which were in German, some in Latvian, some in French. The last voice on the tape – a woman’s voice – said “Va dormir, Margarete” ("Go to sleep, Margaret").

Raudive later wrote (in his book Breakthrough): “These words made a deep impression on me, as Margarete Petrautzki had died recently, and her illness and death had greatly affected me.” Amazed by this, he then started researching such voices on his own, and spent much of the last ten years of his life exploring electronic voice phenomena. With the help of various electronics experts, he recorded over 100,000 audiotapes, most of which were made under what he described as “strict laboratory conditions.” He collaborated at times with Hans Bender, a well-known German parapsychologist. Over 400 people were involved in his research, and all apparently heard the voices. This culminated in the 1971 publication of his book Breakthrough, mentioned above. His impact was such that these phenomena are now often referred to simply as "Raudive voices."

Raudive developed several different approaches to recording EVP, and he referred to:

Microphone voices: one simply leaves the tape recorder running, with no one talking; he indicated that one can even disconnect the microphone.
Radio voices: one records the white noise from a radio that is not tuned to any station.
Diode voices: one records from what is essentially a crystal set not tuned to a station.
Raudive delineated a number of characteristics of the voices, (as laid out in Breakthrough):

“The voice entities speak very rapidly, in a mixture of languages, sometimes as many as five or six in one sentence.”
“They speak in a definite rhythm, which seems forced on them.”
“The rhythmic mode imposes a shortened, telegram-style phrase or sentence.”
Probably because of this, “… grammatical rules are frequently abandoned and neologisms abound.”
Of course, to the skeptic, these characteristics are what one might expect if indeed the “voices” are simply misinterpretations of random, “white” noise.

EVP Today
Serious parapsychologists today show virtually no interest in EVP, and modern reports in the parapsychological literature find no evidence of anything paranormal in such recordings. That does not deter the devoted, of course: it is claimed that there are more than 50,000 sites on the internet devoted to EVP! Again, an example from the Internet:

“Briefly, electronic voice phenomenon (EVP) is the process of capturing messages from the spirit world, including our loved ones in Heaven, by using an ordinary tape recorder. Yes, someone in your family or your special friend who has passed on, can record or imprint their voice onto your tape. It is not the scope of our [web] site to fully explain EVP, but please feel free to visit the learning links below for more information. Our site is designed to help you, the beginner, succeed with EVP”
(www.paranormalnetwork.com)

And now it is claimed that one does not even need to be quiet while making the recordings – the voices often show up in the background while one is recording a conversation. Consider these examples (from www.paranormalnetwork.com).

Examples:
Voice of the dead?
Here, we are told to listen for a whispery woman's voice saying "we all turn this way" or "we all turn that way" recorded by “Karen and Jill” at Edgar Allen Poe's grave on his birthday. (The salient part of the recording is repeated five times so that you can catch it.)
[Listen]

Voice of the dead?
In the middle of the recording, we are told that a voice whispers “Pat!"
[Listen]

There is no end to the efforts people will make to find “voices.” For example, it is claimed that:

“Some voices of spirits or entities are very close to the background level of static; Others may be clearly heard. If the speech is difficult to understand, remember that the spirit talking may be talking in a language or dialog that is not in common usage today. The voice can also be in reverse, you would need a computer to reverse this to hear it.”
(www.blueskies.org)

As yet another example of the unbridled enthusiasm and creativity associated with finding voices, consider the American Association of Electronic Voice Phenomena. Its website informs us that:

“The membership includes people who record paranormal voices, pictures and information from friends and loved ones on the other side through tape recorders, telephones, fax machines, television, computers and video recorders.”
“EVP has been featured in such technical publications as “Popular Mechanics" and "wireless world." It was recently shown in a movie called "the sixth sense". Sarah Estep, one of the world's foremost EVP recorders, has been featured on cable channels such as discovery and Sci-Fi with her numerous EVP recordings. Why EVP remains unknown by the general public continues to astound us. EVP can provide a huge sense of relief for the bereaved and documented proof for paranormal investigators.”

And if one surfs the web, sooner or later, one finds sites that offer to sell devices to help you obtain better recordings!

Possible Explanations
Well, if the voices aren’t spirits, what are they?

Cross-modulation. This is a common phenomenon; I first became aware of it in the 1960s when my “record player” clearly picked up a local radio station, which one could hear between cuts.
But Raudive dismissed this possibility, saying that it cannot be radio since one never hears music or other obvious elements of radio transmission.


Apophenia. This refers to a common perceptual phenomenon whereby we spontaneously perceive connections and find meaningfulness in unrelated things. In other words, it involves seeing or hearing patterns where in reality, none exist. A visual example is the Rorschach Inkblot test.

We may be the best pattern detectors that exist, but not all the patterns we find have any objective meaning. However, once we think we have detected a pattern, it is hard to ignore it, and generally, we take it to be meaningful. A common example of apophenia occurs when people are in the shower, and mistakenly think that they hear their door bell or telephone ringing. The white noise produced by the shower contains a broad spectrum of sounds, including those that make up ringing bells. The ear picks out certain sounds from the spectrum, and we “detect” a pattern corresponding roughly to a bell.

(Apophenia is virtually synonymous with what has been called Pareidolia, an illusion involving misperception of an external stimulus; an obscure stimulus is viewed as something clear and distinct. Examples include instances such as when thousands of people in New Mexico saw the face of Jesus on a Tortilla chip in 1978. This perception, or misperception, does not involve conscious effort or any particular mental set, and the illusion does not vanish even when one pays closer attention to the stimulus because it is so ambiguous that it has no objective meaning at all.
(See http://thefolklorist.com/ for many examples)
While you might accept apophenia as an explanation for voices barely discernable from static, as in the earlier examples above, can it account for the “clear voices’ in the later examples (e.g. – recall the word “Pat” from the tape)? First of all, of course, the extraneous voices, if really there, could be the result of intended or unintended background interruptions by real people – the recordings were not made under any sort of controlled conditions. Secondly, as is discussed below, it is fascinating just how easy it is for our brains to come to interpret certain noise patterns as words, once we know what the words are supposed to be.

What is going on?

Perception is a very complex process, and when our brains try to find patterns, they are guided in part by what we expect to hear. If you are trying to hear your friend while conversing in a noisy room, your brain automatically takes snippets of sound and compares them against possible corresponding words, and guided by context, we can often “hear” more clearly than the sound patterns reaching our ears could account for. Indeed, it is relatively easy to demonstrate in a psychology laboratory that people can readily come to hear “clearly” even very muffled voices, so long as they have a printed version in front of them that tells them what words are being spoken. The brain puts together the visual cue and the auditory input, and we actually “hear” what we are informed is being said, even though without that information, we could discern nothing. Going one step further, and we can demonstrate that people can clearly “hear” voices and words not just in the context of muddled voices, but in a pattern of white noise, a pattern in which there are no voices or words at all.

Given that we can routinely demonstrate this effect, it is only parsimonious to suggest that what people hear with EVP is also the product of their own brains, and their expectations, rather than the voices of the dearly departed.

We can describe the process, leading from mental set to expectation to perception to amazement to belief in the following general way (see graphic): We are told that tape recordings made with no one around contain mysterious voices. This sets up a mental set that motivates us to try to discern voices. That is, we must presume that there may be something there, or we would not waste our time in listening. If others have told us what the voices seem to say, this expectancy influences our auditory perception, so that our brains match up bits of random noise to the words that we expect to hear. Of course, if we play the same piece of tape over and over, as is explicitly recommended by some of the web sites cited earlier, and if we do everything we can to focus our attention on the "noise" (perhaps by listening through headphones, again as recommended by the web sites), then we not only increase the likelihood of discerning voices if they really are there, but we maximize the opportunity for the perceptual apparatus in our brain to "construct" voices that do not exist, to detect patterns that match up with our expectations. Then, once we “hear” the voices, then it is easy, given the mental set that is usually involved, to attribute them to deceased individuals. This interpretation is likely to produce an impressive emotional reaction, and since we have now heard what we set out to hear (our expectancy is fulfilled) our belief in the reality of the voices of the dead grows, and this may be rewarding in various ways. Such an outcome is likely to heighten the expectation that we will hear more voices the next time we listen to such tapes.



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I've tried it once but didn't have any luck at it.



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I've never tried it, but I do believe that there are some real EVP's out there. I also believe they are far outnumbered by recordings that can be either scientifically explained or are outright hoaxes.



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i've caught something doing this once. but nothing that could be distinquished as to what it was. wanting to do more evp work if i can ever get a good digital recorder.



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I think the problem is that you aren't sure that it is a voice from the other side, or you may be picking up various types of broadcasts.



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I'm not 100% sure on what is the truth in this. All I know it scares me like nothing else.



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well said Jd the mentality that "you did it,and I want to do it to"creates a lot of fraud and misjudged clutter.



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would any word from this be near enough to relative words ...then put through spell check would more word likely appear?



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The backward masking and reverse speak group would have you think that.if a person listens to a evp on there own and picks out a message clearly by themselves without prompt from the recorder I would classify that for further research.



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Perhaps it is possible that spirits communicate and exist in a reality that we can register depending on the frequency?

It's so very interesting.



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in the early 1900's there was a reward offered for anybody who could catch a ghost.A science group agreed after studying common ghost stories about ghost that indeed there was a way to capture one and run test on it.The kicker is how would they test a container for a ghost.The whole thing was designed to draw out hoaxes and create a deterent to scam artist
that were rampant at the time.



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This is a way for spirits to communicate. There also are alot of hoax's out there but there also are real EVP's



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I have done EVP work. Some times you get some thing some times you don't. I guess it really depends on if the spirits want to talk to you or not.



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Again, nice article, theunknown



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That kind of stuff freaks me out although I think it's just grouped up energy waves



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