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When one dies does that mean that their journy has ended, or does it simply mean that a new journy has begun? I know that there is no real answer to this, but I'd still like to know what others think.

i believe it is the beginning to a whole new life

Well I think death is the journey because the second we are born we begin to die. We get older and weaker "we are growing up to do die".

death is death if you accept that, but we still haunt the earth, and if we succeed in resolving the injustice done to us, then we can rest in peace, somehow there is a way to actually get the body back if you use your spirit well, but life has to smile on you after you turn the frown upside down. And when fortune smiles on some and lets the rest go free, it is actually because of the fight in the individual to come back form the dead.

I have been dead for ten years, and today I have been reborn. I think I am 27 I was wrong about the 16 number.

3 cubed is 27. 27 is when my trip of death began.

3 X 3 X 3 = 27

The third time is a charm because it charms your existence.
Things come in threes, always remember that. If you believe in the number 3, which is the number representing femininty, then you will have lucky charms.

Energy never ceases to exist. It only changes form.

i think there is an afterlife, but what it is no one will know, we may be incarnated or we may go on to just s spirit realm. but as energy cannot be created or destroyed something must take place

I think the journey continues..just in a different form.

arashi1281 is right. Energy changes forms. The journey begins anew

I thin that death is a new beginning to another life.

Guess each of us will find out when we die. Until then, only speculation. I do believe in reincarnation, and energy is released from this life and changes form.

See this kind of pondering usually just ends up in Headache for me... I do agree with the ideas of energy transferring, however to me it just seems like time is better spent living, than to get within the circular thoughts of this pondering.

It's right up there with the question of; "What is the meaning of life?" Why waste time from living it with a question that has so many varied correct answers you would be better off experiencing.

if the soul is a mortal soul, i believe yes, that is the end, nothing after, and that means no "sitting in the black of nothingness forever", there is no sitting, no consciousness at all. you will not be aware you do not exist. but if it is an immortal soul, or a soul with a will to live, then I think it can inhabit itself into other beings, or put itself in different places in order to survive. afterall, what living creature really wants to die?

well, this is an eternity issue of life after death, so this is another thread dealing on immortality.

That is why we are here, to examine immortality. But our love affair with death ends and then our immortal lifes end then too.

What Cancer is doing on this site is an attempt at immortality. All the profiles you create will last as long as the internet does, and then perhaps even after the internet ends all the information Cancer compiles will be on a chip that will be implanted in people of the future to govern their actions.

But your immortality that you seek ends when you give up on death. We are here to study death to seek longevity, and then because we cannot tolerate someone elses injustice to us on this site we erase our profiles. I have done this myself.

But I am more emotionally stable now where I can contribute my mind into the collective consciousness of the future by not deleting my profile this time around.

Your profiles are not etched in stone until you reach a cetain level. cancer does not even force us to buy the lifetime membership to gain immortality within the written word to the unborn, we can achieve it through merit, and even if we give up on the search for death and the lessons in life because we cannot deal with people and just as long as you do not delete your profile you will advance and in time, by the process of playing the Rave game and contributing to the collective vampire wisdom, we can come back and in the process we finally find something valueable to say.

I will say that there have been two girls on the site that rarely ever made posts, and in fact one of them started a thread that saved me, and because of them I can be here to get to the point where my profile becomes permanent. Now ultimately I will put thing on my profile that cannot be admitted in here, and this is where the value of YOUR profile comes in.

People doing research in the future in times of travail, will be doing research, googling or raving the chip in their heads, and they will see, wow that girl said this that saved Vampariah life and brought him back from the dead.

Let me find out about this dark angel. And then they will read all about you, if you choose to get an immortal profile , and face the eternal music of the future.

We all have a piece of the puzzle, stick around and weather the idiots.

....Does it...Matter?

I mean here:

You die either way, whether it is the end, you die. It's final, we can't avoid it.

So who cares? Who really cares? And if you do care, what's the point?

You'll die either way, just one way you might just cease to exist, in another way, you keep on going.

Either way, this is your life, Now.
Quit worrying about what's going to happen later because, in all honesty, it will happen no matter what so we might as well just relax. heheh

actually, if you beleive in heaven or hell, it DOES matter, I mean, come on, would you REALLY wanna burn for eternity in a furnace of doom, hate, and torture? THEN it matters, but if you dont believe that bull, then hey, good for you

i think that you are in some type of purgatory for a while and you review the life you just got out of. after the review is done, you get to choose what or who you want to be/look like in a new life and you get to be reborn... so it's almost like a continutation kind of.

I believe in the possibility of reincarnation.... I don't think we completely "die". Even scientists will admit that energy doesn't cease, it changes form. I believe it will either be reincarnation, or a ghost, or possibly both.

id like to think that when we die we go someplace ..... but i truely belive one never knows until it is your time..... i think billy the just said it great in anouther thread....... we go were we want to go.......

I love most of the posts, really there is no way to tell about life after death... some have said that when they were in the hospital and flat lined, that they were floating over their body watching the people around them...


My opinion is that yes, they day you are born is the first day you start to die, also, I believe that we are born, then we are given a "destiny" no matter how minute, then once our bodily or soul time expires we eventually cease to function... and that after death our souls are recycled into the threads of life, where we are reborn some time after our initial death, whether or not it is a second, or a millenia before this happens...

... I agree with part of what you say ravencoloredrose...

but what i believe as well is that this is purgatory... that earth, these lives... that we are infact determining our fate for our next life... for example:

If you are a kind law abiding "being", then when you die your soul is weighed... then your next life is set and your soul is reinserted into the time stream and your memories are erased... or at least most of them...

I have many opinions i would love to share

I will pick up on something that Manslayer said, to highlight my thoughts.

He talked about the "out of body" experiences people have, usually when heart functions stop. Yes, we have these stories, and I don't doubt them. However, to say that they are signs of life after death is a bit premature. This is not death. This is just some sort of partial death. We only know what is out there when someone is "mostly dead," to steal a line from Princess Bride.

I think death is just a ending of what we know now. Whether you die tomorrow or years from now, that is the end of this lifes experiences. No one can really say what happens after this.

This body/shell may die in this life time, but ones spirit, or soul never dies. Energy for which I believe we are made up of continues on. So death is only the end in the lifetime.

What about ghosts? I believe that they are the people that were afraid of death and refused to start their new journey so they were forced to forever remain on earth.

My belief is that our bodies are energy and when iwe die our bodies become part of everything on earth...

I do beleive in an afterlife for our spirit or soul

Perhaps what each of us believes in then thats where we will be?

Even if someone were to claim to KNOW the answers to the afterlife (and lets be honest...many a religion and many a spiritualist makes that very claim)...even then, I think most would still be afraid to trust in that claim.

Death is either a finality or a very VERY large step (jump) into something else. Not many of us are eager to go taking those kind of leaps of faith in order to find out what is and what isn't and so one might say that it's fortunate that the decision is rarely ever ours to make. If it required a conscious effort to move into the 'next life'...likely few would take it.

not for the soul..

"Perhaps what each of us believes in then thats where we will be?"

I like it, Clix, and it is right along my line of thinking.

I believe that death is only just that. Death. Nothing afterwards, except worm food.

But then again... Thats just me.

Well then based on the theory of "what you believe there is"...you'd find more after death.

I think that Death is the end of THIS existence. I feel like I will move to another existence completely, seperate from this physical body... HotRodSuperBeast would be no more but the essence would continue without knowledge and/or concern for what happened before

I don't claim to know anything except for the things that I personally experience. I can't say I'm right and your not, and from all the threads on all such topics I see that we all believe or have ideas of our own. Who is to say that the life we front here on VR is not totally different at home. We don't know if everyone here is being 100% honest about thier life, perhaps even making a sort of fantasy life here one they wish they had. And I'm not saying that everyone is lieing either, what I am saying is that we just don't know. And all we can be sure about are the things that we personally go through.

i myself believe the journey of life is just our souls guiding us to the new beginning which we can only get to through our own death. and once we get to it it all just starts over again.

When we die our body becomes an empty shell, rotting in the ground, while our spirit continues to another life.

I wish I could say that I was as sure of what comes after death as some of you. I've always felt that faith (if you had it) could provide a steadying hand in rough times or help a dying person to accept their fate with a little more dignity that those of us that have no beliefs.

Personally, I'm a firm believer in karma and reincarnation. I believe that we come back in another form. I don't think that that form has to be human or that we remain the same gender. I think that sold are energy and that that energy can animate any life form.

Funny you say that...Sometimes I think it really doesn't matter what we believe in we are human and we have a heart soul or spirit and that will be the answer to our end. What your soul and or spirit is made of.

i dont know if this adds anything "but to be afraid of death is worse than death itself", and i believe that phrase is taken from the christian bible, which i dont believe in christianity but it does focus on some good points

to me the trip of the afterlife is the jorney that will be taken like a dream. your afterlife will be the jorney of what you had acclomplshed in the living and you will keep living that life until you are awaken in another form when you are reborn

If when you are born, its the beginning? and when you die, its the end?

or maybe its an instantaneous thing and the two are basically one in that the energy of said being on its way to the check out line of life is then "zapped" to said being that has sprung to life in the same instant.

so life is death - they are one in the same? there is no beginning and end, more of a cycle of said energy, moving through hosts such as us... humans, animals, little hoppities in the forest, etc.

so if its a cycle there really isnt a death per say but a shifting if energy, so if no death... then no life? we are just shells for the energy to reside in and "live a life".

so then the energy wants to "live and experience a life"

hmmmm - kinda goes with my thoughts:

I dont know or care where I came from, short of location since my cycle refreshed... which is in Texas. I dont know or care where Im going, other than work Monday thats for sure.

My energy is here for now and wants to live this life, so I have never care or wondered why I am here, where I came from or where I am going.

what I do know of the shell form of the energy known as birth... is that its pretty damn cool, especially of the human species.

what I do know of death, sucks on any level depending on how much you cared for the other energy.

So Ill just do my thing here and not worry about this or that.

but know this, somewhere... some badass energy just cycled, my dog was awesome! so it should be a really cool..

whatever its gonna be.

=)

I personally think Death is only the beginning. After we die, our souls go on. But, that's only me.

Phara? that makes very interesting reading...funny too. Makes me see things from a different point of view for sure. I try to make it a habit to hang my head upside down to view things differently from time to time...so instead of sitting on the couch i put my feet up where my head usually goes and hang my head down where my feet usually go and I observe.

I think there's some form of Afterlife. Whether it be Heaven, Hell, or perhaps a whole new mortal life.

Don't Know And I'mJust Taking My Time Here On Yhis Sick Planet

death is likely not the end.. probably just a breach of dimentional barriers.. i don't want to get torn out of reality any time soon, but on the other hand, i'm hoping i get demolished and what remains of who i am is disintigrated.. i wonder if i can cause that by hoping it to be so? possibly not...
D

it may feel like it at the time.....
but its def not the end ...they are with you always...but on their own journey in their perfect world of happiness...

I used to believe that there was something after death, but when my grandma died my view changed. I believe when you're dead, that's it. She was so adament that there was something after death, she would of come back to tell us, some how. But yeah, I don't think there is anything after death.

to quote a famous saying i think "death is only the beginning"....

Good question. I believe in recantation but only in certain circumstances. For instance, if you die before your time, I don’t think u just die and is reborn right away, it takes hundreds of year maybe longer, which is cool because it gives you time to see your current love ones again. I truly believe I had a past life, I’ve talked about it in other forums on death and such. Just like I believe the people you love are always going to be in your life in some way or another, your mom might just be your sister next life time lol.

For me....

Death is the next level of the journey. You know it is there, you just don't know what is next until you get there.

simply put.... nothing is ever the end.

and nothing is the beginning..

I personally believe that even in death our souls never sleep, and that we have the choice to move on to the next life or stay behind. I have also thought that perhaps there are only certain souls that get to move on to the next life, and that others do have to stay and play here. I dont really know yet which I believe more though. lol. It may sound insane but thats just my opinion and beliefs. :)

Nope..Death..is but the beginning...

Wow that's pixelated.
I just want to learn some interesting guitar before I die. That's all that matters in this minute to me.

i hope it is, i dont want another life, but i do doubt it is truly the end

As we now know that matter and energy are both eternal, of which we are wholly comprised, and as the Universe(s) is/are infinite and arguably also eternal...

... why would we imagine Life to be finite?

me personally, I think we keep on coming back until we get things right, maybe making up for things I did in a past life.A wise man once said to me, "no matter how many time you may wash your hands, you can never get all the blood off.It was the times we lived in there, it was survival, to match the brutality or be killed by it."
I believe our souls are immortal and one cannot live but one lifetime and accomplish all there is..or love enough.one lifetime is never enough to be with one's mate.

I believe that we move onto another state of being until we are ready to return to earth to continue the spiritual journey layed out for us by destiny. :)

i believe you only live once but hey..i could be wrong

To be honest I didn't know before I started reading. Now I've read it all I really don't know

I'm not sure that I would want to know. If life starts to get hard, it would be really easy to quit if you knew you could 'start over'.

I think it's individual, but really the end ?
Hmm, no, I thnik no, just another type of journey.

An interesting aspect of all of this is most people's extreme fear of death. It is a fear of the unknown, of the possibility that this could be it.

We know from science that energy cannot be destroyed, it only transfers or moves on. Our bodies are full of energy so where does it go when our organs no longer function? To say that when a heart stops beating it is the end is not possible...the energy has to go somewhere. Where that somewhere is remains a mystery and something humankind will ponder eternally.

These are questions of the ages and will remain questions that will be asked. Why am I here? What is my purpose in life? Is there life after death? We will not know the answers until we move on from this plane of exsistance. The most we can ask for is to lead a good life and have faith.

My belief is a new journey begins.

there is life after death, mine and lowns past life wasent so pretty, was it lown...*glares*

lets just say he killed me. thank god in this life we get along....lol

I believe that death is a step in the journey and it is the transition into something new.

I don't know whether we cease to exist or not. I believe that our true being is much more than this life can contain or describe. So I guess I fall into those who believe our spirit lives on.

I started a poll on this a while back, you can still find it. Feel free to go and vote.

I don't really care I just want it to come...............

Nobody dies and nobody is really born.

Isnt that a quote Billy? Either way it's deep.

It's mine and from the Gita.
Krishna, is deep. ;)

Many people believe that death is it, nothing happens. Others say you go to a different place, realm, or are reborn as a new creature.

I believe that we do not die but rather are recollected into the energy that flows through this existence, only to be "reborn" at an undertimed time later when another life is needed.

Many speak of past lives and unexplainable memories or dreams. When we run into others who have shared our past we feel a certain connection with them, something unexplainable. I do not speak of just people, could be anything - animal, plant, even a place. That sense of deja vu you get when you see or visit somewhere you know you have never been.

No one can say for certain what happens until it actually does, but by that time.. its too late.

in the eyes that i see with; life is death and death is eternal life somewhere. it could be heaven, it could be hell and it could be that place noone talks about, the place for all eternal to exist for all eternity! the place between heaven and hell!!

Think of the Energizer Bunny....it keeps going and going and going....lol

I tend to agree with Billy's words of wisdom ;)

As well as Phara, and others who have made the point about energy and cycles.

We are ...RECYCLED! hehe

I believe that the death is not the end, i believe in rebirth for i am a wiccan/vampire.I believe in something huge after death.

I think when you die that its not the end but only the benning. But what ever starts after you die is really unknown because only the dead really know what happens next.

I think that it is the beginning of the journey, hopefully with the chance to fix all the things that you have done wrong in your first life

there are a million views of what happens after death and what our meaning is for now. they can be debated for centuries on end and still never come to a conclusion. i have many different thoughts on it 1 which i have posted above and the other which is, i heard somewhere that if you commit suicide that once you die you experience your death over and over again forever, so i take living as already being dead and that i have already comitted my suicide and im just experiencing it again. that can sound really confusing to someone else but seeing as i tend to be confusing it makes sense.

If I may be a little cliché here...

nothing lasts forever, but with every ending there is always a new beginning.

I've always thought that the power of the human mind is underestimated and that we are capable of creating our own reality to some extent, therefore I think what happens after death could very well be dictated by our own personal beliefs.

nothing lasts for ever but in one word no death is not the end death is just the begining

I believe that people go though different life lessons. Though each, life a lesson is learned. If u don't complete everything u need to learn, you come back and finish, then move on the next journey( what ever that may be). That's why I think some people know more then others without really trying. Just a theorynot a fact.

My logical mind says yes.


Given what I know about the human psyche...I know that since our arrival on this planet, we have been survivors, and have survivor mentalities. We have an overpowering need to feel that we, or some part of us ...is forever. It is basic human nature, not founded on facts, but on imagination and need.

in my opinion what one person believe happens when they die does....

when some one believe in heaven and hell and that if you are bad and desirve to go to one or the other you will..... so if you think you belong in hell that is where youll go if you think you belong in heaven that is where youll go...


if you think you turn into a ghost... you will

if you think youll turn in to an animal or plant... you will

if you think youll be reborn... you will

if you think youll rot in the ground... you will

if you think youll be nothing... you will be.

I belive that no death is not the end, i think that people fear death because they don't know what might happen, unlike people who think that there is more they don't fear death as much as the people who don't.

Death Is Death.
I Believe We Live To Die.
Their Are Worse Things Then Death.
I Believe That Death Is Just The Beginning.
You Have to Build Your Own Belief.
-Jenn

"The Road goes ever on and on
Out from the door where it began.
Now far ahead the Road has gone,
Let others follow it who can!" quoted from Tolkien "The Lord of the Rings"
it isn't exactly the quote I wanted here but it is close we go on we don't just blow out like a candle we are made up or body and spirit the spirit continues long after the body ends...
Yes we go on not as we are now no but a part of who we are continues always

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