How do u address a restless spirit without pissing it off?
I see spirits all the time ever since i was small. My mind is so open and free, there's no way I could stop. Anyway, I have a few spirits in my home and they are stirring up trouble. I have tried to speak to them, (even though it may make me look a little crazy.lol), and it worked for awhile. Now, it is starting all over again.
I have caught my son talking to one before and he wasn't frightened. I just don't know what to say...please give me your insight.
There are alot of category's for spirits, in my opinion the first thing to do is find out exactly what your dealing with.Study there habit's.There's a ton of information on this all over the net, some sites actually have useful information..I would research all you can to better understand who is sharing your home before you attempt to evict them.
It would be better for you to consult with a shamman or wiccan priestess if you can find one that will help you. Amateurs (even one with a great amount of sensitivity) should not medal with "spirt entities".
i agree seek consult for a higher up before doing anything you could try it your self and only make matters worse .....
Definitely get yourself some help. If they're causing problems now they're gonna be really irked when they found out what you tried to do.
There were a few ghost hunting threads on here before the great clean up - they seem to have all died :(
before ive never had trouble addressing restless spirits but its been in my experience to learn as much as i could about any kind of spirit so that if i come across them i'd know what to do.
so id recommend that you do some research to learn as much as u can before you try anything.
I am curious as to what kind of trouble they are up to? Also how do you perceive their actions and manners?
It would help if you knew the origins of the spirits, who they are and why they havent crossed over.
If you can, find out why they are causing trouble, it might simply be a misunderstanding. And to reiterate what has been said over and over, it would be best to have an expert at your side whilst doing this.
Leaving open doors, opening cabinets, waking up to them staring down on me, and waking me from my sleep
I don't see anything wrong or crazy with talking to them. Hell if you know that they are there and listening, why not? Maybe continuing to talk to them will help stop the trouble. Explain things from your point of view, and work it out like you would if you had a problem with a living person. Maybe I'm just crazy too, but it makes sense to me.
I would recommend getting spiritual help if you think that the spirit will become malicious. No need in risking your own well being if there is someone who can help you.
I would have to agree with having someone of a higher power then yourself assist you with this. I have called upon my Native Medicine women many of times when I need cleansing of something.
Like was mentioned, find out some of the history of where you live, that might help as to the origin of the spirits. Consult one who is learned in such before you do anything except your research.
I was doing some thinking on this and I have a friend who lived in a home that was full of spirits who taunted her and her family. She did some reaserch on were her home is located and found out some very interesting information. It was built over a school that had burned down. Anyways it brought a whole new peice for her and she ended up moving but this may help you.
I would try to find out what they wanted! Why they are doing these things! Like others have said, maybe some history about the house! If you really feel that you want to rid the house of them. You can have a preacher come in & bless the house! This will work..You may still feel their prescence(sp?) but majority of the time, they are no longer active!
Wel, you should probaby get professional, a person whom is more experenced then you to help them through whatever they are going through maybe even get rid of them.
~Yours In The Darkness~
as stated by so many others you may want to research the spirits first before attempting anything with them they can be an annoyance for some others view them in different ways it could be a warning sign as well they could be trying to alert you of things its hard to tell most spirits just look for a way to come to terms with there spiritual selves but if you do attempt anything be sure to have an idividual with you who knows more about the dealings of spirits first
here is a website that may help you...http://Mind n Magick.com I hope this helps, it tells of a woman asking advice as in the same situation as you. Bright Blessings
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birra Venerable Sire (132) Posts: 463 Honor: 0 [ Give / Take ] |
Might I suggest calling the psyhic hotline... professional psychics, 24 - 7, only $3.99 per minute.
How many minutes do you think it would take to get the spirits to calm down? 10? 20? I think that's pretty reasonable...
Restless spirits tend to be an imprint of thier death or thier life, which ever was most memoorable to them. We had a small child spirit who had burnedin the house that was on our property before my grandparents bought it . Sometimes in my grandmothers house she would cry in the middle of the nightand my grandmother would get up and check on my mother and her sister and the child would stop crying.
The same child after my mother built the house accross the road from my grandmother onthe same property you could see her sitting on the ledge in front of the mirror playing with her hair. The way I used to converse with her was a small notepad I would leave open in the center of my desk alone with a crayon or somethign else that would leave marks ont he paper.
In other places I wouldsimple sit and listen, if they are still bound to that house there is somethign they have not yet done or somethgin they beleive they need penance for doing or at times they do nto even realise they have died.
They Must Be Poltergeist. I Would Suggest To Seek The Apropriate Help For This. Or, The Hard Way. I Hate It When Hard Headed Spirits Or Entities Stick Around And Have A Blast Driving You Nuts.
I have to agree. You may want help you don't want to do this alone. Something bad could happen
The most agitating thing that they do is wake me from my sleep. I've often felt myself being suffocated of shaken. sometimes one might stroke my face.
I am not afraid of them all. I think that there maybe just one bad one. I've noticed three: and older woman, young black guy, and a woman. The woman is beautiful too. I've seen my son talking to her. It just seems like it is just one. My children are usually startled out of their sleep as well. We'll be moving soon and I feel for the next tenants, because they won't know what to do. Oh by the way, the young black guy overdosed in my house 5 yrs ago. I just found out from other neighbors.
well try to do whatever u can but remember to be safe.
Wow honey You never told me you found out about one of them. Hmmm is the young guy the bad one? Seems like he had the hard life lol. (I know I'm mean)
Oh and tell the young chick to call me or come float in my window sometimes if she's so beautiful lol.
Ok I'm sorry bout the last post I know this is serious for you babe. lol I guess I just proved why you dont tell me about it anymore lol.
Well I used to see spirits all the time when I was younger. I still do but not as often, I guess because I started to fear it. I know people say don't fear them because they can't hurt you but that's bullshit! They can! and people need to realize this. Some of these entities are very powerful and mean as hell.
yes u need not fear them if u know how to handle them, even then theres always a reason why their tormenting others, some want company, some want revenge, some even want a companion but theres always a way to help them. thats my experience.
I think that you do need outside help to help identify what kind of spirit you are dealing with. As a wiccan, I would of course suggest a preistess, but there are other spiritualist of there.
When spirits start showing up in your face and not leaving you alone, it is a sure sign that they wish to talk to you or have a message that they wish to pass on. Set a time for this, if you are willing, and get the message. Then tell them in no uncertain terms that you and your family no longer wish to be disturbed.
Imagine that there is a large zipper from your feet to the top of your head. Close the zipper and then make a twisting locking motion around your lips. You will be closed off from them and they will learn to go elsewhere.
Natalia seems to me they want to talk but feel blocked somehow from doing so...Think it might be time to settle and get balanced here and try to find out what they want or need the angry one might need to relay a message of some import to him..If he died as they claim he may not realize he is dead and be very unhappy your there...
Try a bit of meditation and see if he can talk to you then..If it gets worse you may have to do a cleansing of your home..
Love you sister
Mikhail
Try to make peace with them. Find out if there is anything they need. Talk to them frequently, many times they're just lonley.
Natalia,
I had been wracking my brains for the name of the ghost dude that wrote some excellent stuff on haungtings and such. I've just remembered who it was ...
You might want to get in touch with GreusomeTendacies
if you be paitent and listen to the spirit it will tell you what it "need" most times that they are causeing trouble they are just trying to get some attention if they do get very annoying there are things that you can do to drive them off. the most simple ay is to burn sage around the area that has the most activity.
I have never interacted with the spirits around me one on one (intentionally), rather I've set up a small sound recorer for a ser aound of time on a regualt basis with interesting results...
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I would have to say to seek experienced people to come into your home to help you with this. Also go to local libary and look up about the land you are living on.
I have no trroubling spirits ever around me, hoever, I do occasionally have visits from deceased friends and relatives. A friend of mine happens to ahve a poltergeist in his home and it is quite a bother. Usually we just dismiss it's fairly harmless pranks with a "Goddamn poltergeist." and go along with our own business.
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birra Venerable Sire (132) Posts: 463 Honor: 0 [ Give / Take ] |
Maybe offer it a drink first... cook it a nice dinner?
Perhaps just talking to it in a calm voice and letting it know it's ok and you want to help...
Well, I am not really good with the whole "spirits" and "ghosts" thing but first you have to find out if it is a "sprit" or "ghost" the difference is that a "spirit" has passed over and a "ghost" has not. A "ghost" will move things and things like that, a "spirit" will make the phone ring, drop coins and etc. It sounds like you have a "ghost" so you should probably tell it to go to the other side, and if that doesn't work and they REALLY bother you then you should think about having the home blessed. If you have a "spirit" there is really nothing you can do about it. Hope I helped!!
The spirits are always grumpy toehrwise they would not stand around they would just go away, so ther eis nothing to do but to let them hurt oyu or be mena, the best option is to ignore them and act as if they ar enot there, then you will be okay, they will get tired and go away with time..maybe long but still..(took me alnmost 17 years to get ride of one)
I would ask it, he or she, what they want.If treated with respect, as this thing was a person at one times...they will act in kind.
Definitely, research and have someone help you with this you don't want it to go all bad, cause it could happen.
Kids think on a different level than we adults do....They have their innocence....and thats what matters most
Jak, mmm don't think ignoring them is the best thing to do.If they just need help moving on or they need some wrong righted.Like many things in life, just ignoring them, doesn't make them go away. Just my opinion.
If you want to rid yourself of negative energy, rather it be spirits or anything else, you can do a lesser banishing ritual, I do this at least once a week.
You'll want to prepare yourself first, with meditation and a bath. Become relaxed, if interested, I can message you the ritual.
~Z~
yeah ya know, there are many things i would love to ignore ,but they won't go away.*grins* like a few extra holidays pounds..yadda yadday*lol*
As Billy said, they are trying to communicate with you in the only ways they know, it is frustrating to them not to be understood and someone reads that as being grumpy.
You say you have an open mind and I believe you have, you are just not listening the right way, take your time and make sure you are willing to listen and help, if possible.
I too see spirits all the time and I am willing to listen, but I made it clear to them that it is MY home now. Not by a fancy ritual or something, I merely sat up in my bed and said out loud, "this is my home, you are welcome but please respect my privacy, I will listen if you want to speak but after you are done you need to leave." Of course they test you but stay strong and let them know you are in charge of your home.
I doubt they are out to hurt you, if they were you would have known by now.
I like that attitude Nianna. The focus may only need mutual respect.
Well, that meditation thing sounds great...I would like to try that. I haven't been having problems with them lately. I sat up in my room one night and had a private conversation with them. I kinda think that one of them, at least, heard me because of the peace I've benn receiving. One of my sons still speaks to it though, but nicely. lol
I just told them that I was sorry for any pain they might have been feeling and that I had no problems with them. I also said that they should go if they knew they didn't belong there if they knew there was a better place to go.
I saw an Angel when I was a child.
I will never forget it.
I know it was real.
I really don't care what others think about it, it's my reality, I can close my eyes and see it clearly even to this day.
The only thing I've ever seen were orbs, hope to not see any thing else ever. Too scary for me.
I know what you mean...that happens to me sometimes. The first spirit I can remeber seeing was my grandmother. I was five tears old and she had just passed away from a ruptured blood vessel in her brain a week prior. I woke up in the middle of the night and saw her sitting on the bath tub smoking a cigarette, and i could smell it too.
Most of the time spirits will go away if you just kindly ask them to go into the Light (cheesy, I know, but it works. lol).
well my thought is the spirit wants help. And you need to figure out what it is that it wants. Maybe your son can figure it out for you. Just ask them, they will tell you or they will give you a clue what they want.
Spirits get along better with children and because of the purity the child is said to be able to see spirits as well as angels lurking Like my friends baby when she was 3 months old would babble and hold out her hand to whatever she was babbling at. Now the can be precieved serval diffrent ways but, I choose to believe she was either talking to her gaurdian angel or she was talking to a spirit in the house. The choice is yours on what you believe.
There is nothing wrong with a little apprehension and protective behavior on behalf of your child. A non-aggressive method of convincing spirits to leave or move on is called smudging. Burn sage as incense and slowly move through the house. A feather can be used to 'push' the smoke around and into corners.
One can if you feel up to it, speak out loud an incantation or simply think about moving on and letting go of bad feelings, fear or depression. This practice is good regardless of your depth of belief because of it's meditative and carries respectful desire for a solution. That means that even if there is no spirit there, you will feel better for having looked upon a situation with respect and meditated on a positive outcome.
It is even possible to involve the child in this as a means of educating him/her on thinking positive and non-aggressive, positive meditation. Showing respect for the situation and pushing the smoke with a feather while thinking about good things.
Felix I appreciate your calmness I must first add. Also I am Native and have practiced this method many times that Felix is talking about and must say it works. I would continue to do this each day. Its a pleasent way to keep your house cleansed.
can i be the first to point out the obvious? they are all right when they say "call in an expert", but judging from your past experiences, i would say you are a natural, and halfway to becoming an expert. so go the rest of the way - use your talents and become the expert. maybe that's what they want to tell you - that is your calling.
Look into the smudging. It really is something positive you can do without 'messing into areas' of which you're not familiar. Any form of initiated contact (depending on your belief) exposes you and your child to unknowns and is likely more out of curiosity than a desire for 'safety'. Any consultation with 'experts' exposes you to a con.
By all means, read up on this and learn about what you believe and what actions you'd like to take. My point is that if you simply want things 'normal' and want a positive solution, I'd go with smudging as a start and save the chocolate for you and your child ;)
The asking for advice, is a great idea, but I agree with the person who said that if you're seeing them, you're halfway to being an expert.
Burn some sage(either a smudge stick or preformed incense). Take it throughout your house and let the smoke drift through your house. It has been my experience that spirits who mean you harm actually dislike sage smoke and will leave.
I'd have to say learn their habits, find out what happened to them... do some reshearch. If you find anything to believe that they would become violent with you, stay clear of them, but that's a no brainer. If they seem passive continue with attempts to talk to them.
I'm not a parent so I must say my expertise in protecting children is limited...but if I wasn't sure what I was dealing with and wasn't sure what somethings intent was, I'd be hesitant to let curiosity be my guide and to try and communicate or experiment with this. Unless you are truly a skeptic (and from the fact that you've spoken with these before I don't think you are), it makes sense to treat the supernatural or the unknown differently with a child than without.
If you have talked to them once before I would say simply talk to them again and find out what the issue is. Find out why they started making trouble again. If this doesn't work then you can always try banishing them.
I think the best thing to do is contact a shaman or wiccan priest or priestess. Or maybe an exorcist.. Ive had some trouble with bad spirits before and I cleansed the house with a couple of my initiates... worked fine for me!
I would say high priestess to come to your house and clean it out dont do it yourself,.
Cleansing the house or exorcism would be the most obvious solution as a last resort.
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CuRsEdToDaRkNeSs High Sire (157) Posts: 1,286 Honor: 2,184 [ Give / Take ] |
It has been to my experiance that if a spirit is grumpy it can be for many reasons. They could have simply been a grumpy person when they were alive. lol. To help out with this situation, I would say get to know more about that particular spirit. If, like me, you have seen them since childhood you should in theory be able to talk with them or make some sort of contact. They could simply be having a bad day as any of us do. Now this goes with my beliefs of why spirits remain here and why they exsist so it is simply based on the way I handle things. :) It may not work the same for you.
The psychic hotline...pay per minute? I hope you were joking. If ever there was a scam...
start carrying a proton pack and have ghostbusters on speed dial, that should cheer them right up...lol..sorry, i had to do it
i think that maybe you could try doing a little ritual before you try to talk to them to put like a peace of mind over them for a while. i don't know if it would work but it might.
I would consult with someone and get help if you possibly can..find out what you are dealing with.
are thjust mischieviously annoying,or down right evil? sounds to me like they're poltergeists(from german "polter-to crash about,and"geist-for ghost") i wouldnt pay any attention to them unless they start to become dangerous.
My advice is to seek a Celtic Priest, a Shamman, or a Catholic Priest
I would research the property and house or building , and have someone WELL expirenced to help you . Please don't try to rid it by your self . First find out what your up against.
If i were in your shoes, and I did not know anyone skilled in dealing with unwanted spirits, I would probably make nice with the Catholic church and consult a priest about it. They do actually go through trainings on exorcisms, and I do not think they would con you.
I think you should talk to it like it is a person. It might not get pissed off but there is only one way to find out.
definately agree with see the church at least they have the tools to deal with it if not necessarily the faith in the existance of
i would do some research on the house first and see what happens ...
since she is no longer a member and the question seems answered i am going to close this *smile*