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SatansChild
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Do you believe that Vampires are in real life? Ones that drink blood and get power from it ,and can live forever ? Or is it all movies that give us these thoughts ?




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14:58:20 Jan 16 2007
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Drink blood and get energy from it...Yes

Imortal undead - No.



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Sigh.........yes "they" are real



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I say so, but what do I know?



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I don't know if true immortality is such a good thing to have. Live a couple of hundred years sure, but a thousand? Who wants to live forever? It would drive one mad.



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I would like to believe that, but unfortunately I know better...



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i dont believe they are real as immortal as in myths and legands and whats on the movies or in books....



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Vampires, as they were originally described by the actual inhabitants of the Carpathian Mountains of then-Transylvania, do exist and have since before the Egyptian Empire. And it was for their hypersensuality that they were feared by the new Christian faith in the area and centuries thereafter were vilified as evil, plague-carrying (Tuberculosis), and later, blood-sucking revenants so as to scare primarily women away from them. These later lies depicted a "creature" that has never existed in fact.

So also, the blood-sucking vampires of Bram Stoker, Anne Rice, et al, and Hollywood are not real and never have been. Neither are the equally fictitious "psy"-vampires of LaVey's twisted imagination.



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of course they arent real........neither are werewolves, etc.......It is known that drinking blood can give you energy but only because of two things.......blood has iron and iron raises energy........and two its a mental thing. I could drink mexican piss water and if I thought it was magical then it would be



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16:11:29 Jan 16 2007
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The hard thing these days is what is real and what is myth and fantasy, in a world where information rules our lives......

What is true for one is not true for another, as to if they are Real or Not, who are we, there are many things in this realm we can't fathom out.....



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Much like UpirLikhyj said,

The things that caused people to start the vampire myths did exist, but I doubt that what the myths eventually became were ever real.

The lifestyle that the word has expanded to include certainly does exist - there are a lot of people on this site who live it.

I understand that some people, as part of that lifesytle, drink blood - it must give them power of some sort, even if it just the power that they have over their donor/victim.

No body can live forever, it ages and rots. A persons soul has been considered immortal since before history was recorded.

Movies make people aware of the issues, but don't attempt to make it 'realistic' - movies do make people curious enough, maybe to seek out more information.

Just my humble opinion



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I drink blood occasionally...and get energy from it.

I can walk outside during the day ...even though I'd prefer not to.

I was not blessed with the gift of immortality...and I am glad to not be immortal, all of my family and friends would pass on with out me.



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18:36:06 Jan 16 2007
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real? yes
as for hollywoods version of the immortal undead? no

blood drinking? yes powerful? yes



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18:38:29 Jan 16 2007
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Ok we are real we do drink blood we don't live forever.



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I am very much real my friend..but not as in the old Bela Lugosi horror films. I take in energy when I cannot get a donor. I don't die if I don't get blood, I just don't feel as energic as I usually do when I do feed.I don't turn into dust in the sunlight, but it does hurt my eyes.I am not immortal, that is my body is not, but my soul is.I don't sleep underground but I do prefer a bit of soil from my home(Scotland) in my room.I do have a reflection in a mirror and I do believe I have a soul.mmm i think that's the highlights there..



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yes we are very real. And it is an insult to the true vampire to question our existance



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dell662
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i would say yes they r real



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drink blood and get energy from doing so...yes i believe that....
living forever (immortal) dont think so.



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21:45:13 Jan 16 2007
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I say that they are real, but not immortal. I believe there are those out that drink blood, and practice vampiric ways.



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I think Vampires exist. I've always believed in them.. as far as I can remember. And embraced them.
I don't think they can be truly immortal though. Every creature has it's time. They may live incredibly long.. but not immortal.
In all the stories of vampires.. there are ways to kill them.. they may not die on their own.. but they still die. So they're not really immortal.
That is if vampires are really like most common lore.



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22:45:00 Jan 16 2007
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Our contorted ideas of what a vampire is?- yes

immortality? -a physical impossibility that is at best comical.



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I think their real. I wish i could be a real vampire. I would do just about anything to be one.



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Vampires who drink blood and get energy from it I believe, to be immortal no.



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Well i think there are some truth,but hollywood put alot of sparkles in the movies. There is no such thing as undead.You either live or die.



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I dont believe in the Hollywood version but I do have several friends that have the blood lust



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I'm real. I need blood. I do not live forever. The sun irritates my skin (way too easy to get a sunburn) and it hurts my eyes but if I go outside, I'm not going to burst into flames.



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ravenna ...

... forgive me, but how do you come to the conclusion that you "need" blood? What physiologic or biologic difference do you or anyone else claiming "sang"-vampirism possess that has you requiring the gastronomic ingestion of blood?

If you possess no such, then is it truly a "need" or, instead, a desire?



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Yes, very real. Not immortal though. The more romantic ideals (immortality, flight, mind tricks exc.) are the product of movies and books.



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To answer UpirLikhyj
I have always been drinking blood since I was 3 years old. My mom always made the comment that I could never function during the day if my pillow had made it through the night with no blood on it. If there was blood on it, I had all the energy in the world. When I have attempted to "quit", I have a host of mental problems such as depression. When I resume, the problems go away. I'm aware that could be a placebo effect but its not likely when it happens when I am 3-9 years old.



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yes they are real! The undead immortal kind..no that's just hollywood stuff..drinking blood tho does give you energy!



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I believe that vamps are real.In many ways they are real.
And to drink blood,is just blood.It's called Cannibalisim.Heh.Blood can be filled with bad things that may cause more harm then
good..unless the person is healthy.Good
sorce od protien,and iron..though.



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and yes i believe drinking blood does give you some sort of energy souce... kind of like revitalisation a bit



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yes to all



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UpirLikhyj
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Ravenna:

Not sure here, but if your pillow has blood on it wouldn't that mean you had bled during the night (cut lip, etc.), not ingested blood? Or are you claiming that at age 3 you were roaming the neighborhood sucking people's blood as they slept in their beds and returning to your own with others' blood on your lips?


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Ok, I am going to say that vampires are real in any culture. As for the immortal part, I dunno. I think they just live longer lives, but are not immortal. Anything can die, just cut of its head. Yes, I believe drinking blood can give you energy.



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I believe that vampirism is real... as for immortality well the soul is immortal so I guess it is just different body different life...



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Well, this one has already been beaten around with the same answers. But, I'm going to gve my two cents anyway.

"Real" vampires, as in beings who partake in drinking of blood and reciveing energy from it, yes, these are the real vampires. Sanguine vampires take the needed energy from the blood, psychic vampires take the needed energy from a person's life force, aura, or feed directly off emotions. These vampires, these are the real ones.

However, it's when you throw immortality into the mix that things get messed up. There is no such thing as an immortal vampire. And anyone claiming to be such is either lying or in need of some psychiatric help quickly. The whole "undead bloodsucker" thing is but a work of fiction. All vampires who take in the form of blood or psychic energy will, in fact, die one day. We know this, we accept it.

So.. to answer your question.. "immortal vampires" are works of fiction. Non-immortal beings who take in the needed energy from blood or psi energy are the only "real" vampires.



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Blood drinking is surely not Cannibalisim, to me that didn't make much sence to call it as so. I don't believe in true vampire as in ones that can drink of blood and live for 300 or 3000 years for that matter. It is true that one can gain energy and power though from drinking; this is the chemistry and make up of blood in it's pure form.



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I don't just believe that they are real, I am certain of it. There are many Hollywood parts to vampyrism that I don't agree with. However, I do believe that vampires which feed on blood (sang) do exist, I am a psy.



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honestly, i'm not sure, i don't believe that anyone can live forever, but as far as getting energy from blood, possibly. until i meet one in person, and become one, i'm not sure



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Drink blood and getting energy from that? - It is medical impossible...
Undead? Eternal life? That is doubtful, since there is no proof...
This can be argued over and over, but I do believe that facts have more weight than mere words... I don't say that it is proven 100% that none of the stories is true, but it is hard to believe stories that are based on pure fear or lack of knowledge of the ones who tell them (see Bram Stoker who never saw Transylvania)...



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UpirLikhyj
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Ahriman... well said, and glad to have another who likewise opines equally on this topic.

And should there be those who disagree re: blood drinking as capable of giving energy, I welcome any scientific study references evidencing this as possible.



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No. Unfortunately Hollywood has "vamped up" the legend of vampires to a level that makes them very believable. While I do believe that psi-vampires exist, those who drink blood and "live" forever exist only in legends, books, and movies.



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I believe you get power from blood living forever NO...



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Camuel
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Vampires are make-believe, like elves, gremlins and eskimos!



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Never met one myself, and I'm inclined to say no, but anything is possible.



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I don't believe in immortality, but about gathering energy trough blood, sex and so on... well why not, because you can do almost anything with the strange little device in our head...

Yeah, psychology, If someone is persuaded to be a blood vampire, he will be persuaded that he will gather energy when drinking blood, thus he will fell better after that...
The human brain is more "fantastic" than aliens or gods because his existence is proven (:P) but we can't fully understand it...



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very real yes but the imortal fanged beast is just hollywood



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blood yes...immortal...no



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I agree with most that posted before me. Real indeed, blood drinking, drawing energy..but no any of us are dead.



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Everyone here seems to agree... blood drinker: real. but the imortal Vamp; nope. they are a dramtization....



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UpirLikhyj
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Not everyone agrees... no.

Occasionally sipping some blood and/or imagining you're getting energy from people around you does not make you any sort of "vampire."

Ya know, I would love to see just one of these "sang-vampires" try to live on blood alone, as the "real" vampires they claim to emulate supposedly do. Let's see how much "energy" they get from it after a few days ingesting nothing but blood.

Any of you "sangs" out there wanna take that challenge and down a gallon or two of whole blood daily for a few days and see how "vampire" you really are?



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I can believe by drinking blood that you can recieve energy from it but living forever and being the "undead" no that's childish stupidity



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I believe that there are people or 'vampyers' who feel the need for energy to live comfortably from day today. wheather that is obtained physically or in a say physy manner. wheather they do need it physically or wheather they have mentaly tricked themselves into craving it is something a phycologist will have to say.



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I agree with a lot of the things posted. Immortality-No
Energy from blood-Yes



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I believe they are real but i dont have proof....if diabetes is left untreated could produce symptums that made the victim look and act like a vampire .....there hair will start falling out, there gums will start to bleed, there gums will rise making them apear to have fangs, they will become very pale, sensitive to light, become thin, and crave blood (also if a person drinks to much blood they will become diabetic)



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drink blood as a way to gain energy...yes
immortal, no.
unless somewhere down the line i am proved wrong.



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The question of immortality is a hard one to answer, but i don't believe that this site would exhist if we didnt believe in vampires.



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PanzerParasite
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Well there is a big difference between believing in the existence of vampire... and believing the myth around this.

I'm very paranoid concerning this, I love to learn but I have the habit to search after all the logical explanation before believing in something, I may believe in the existence of those people, but I just can believe in some myths till it hasn't been proved (immortality, fear of daylight etc...)



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immortality is a psyhical impossiblilty
lusting for blood however is very real.
but just because you lust for blood and like to bite does that really make u a vampire.
or is it a myth? a pshycological thought that your mind tricks you to think your a vampire?
i do beleive in the supernatural, but the topic has a great discussion value.



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I figured this question would have already been asked on here a long time ago....Either way...

There are a lot of issues I have with the view of "vampires" Personally on such a subject I perfer to look at it with a skeptical mind, through purely scientific terms, No, I don't think they are real.

I honestly do not think you will find a single person out there who seriously needs to drink blood from other beings to survive. The term "vampire" on here seems to be reserved for people who seem to enjoy the sensuality of drinking blood from another or are just in love with the romantic view of Vampires.
But none of them I believe need to feed to survive. If they did, why would they come on here and waste their time?

Many people forget what it means to kill someone, some people are just in love with the gorey idea of taking someone's life to feed their own apetite but if they actually had to do it they wouldn't be able to.

I'm just sick of people playing these games, it's fine to love the sensuality and feed from people you know, but obsessively pretending you're a Vampire online while bending the rules (Example: I'm half vampire and half human, I can go outside in the daylight) It just lame...

My own opinion of course.



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Beware Morrigon... a lot of people here are completely lost in their roleplay, they wont like this :D

"Vampires" exist... it's a disease causing sensitive eyes, fragile skin against uv, and a lack of "i-don't-remember-what" in the blood.
It aint anything romantic or supernatural, it's just a friggin disease...
But somehow I'm curious about some kind of possible evolution of this thing... human mind can twist his own body, why not making a disease evolve the way he thought?

*ponder*



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Yeah...I can see it now..."When RPers Attack"

Of course you're right about all of that, and of course the Vampire Bats....But really, when you get down to the basics, no I don't think they exist at all.
The conditions certain people have are Human Conditions...Plus if you called them vampires they might get pissed.



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I am sure some on here will die with the belief that vampires are real, but we all have different views on what a vampire is.

Are they immortal? I don't think so, but oddly enough some on this site believe so.

Do they drink blood? Some, some drink energy, and others might believe feeding doesnt truly ever happen. And as already discussed in this thread there is a contigent that believe psy vamps are not real. Is one method truer than the other? Who knows.

Can they turn into bats and fly away? I would hope no one truly believes this, but once again we have some delisional people out there.

Whatever your beliefs are about vampires, your beliefs are real to you. That however does not turn into concrete evidence proving one way or the other about the subject matter.



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It's hard to say, a part of me believes in real vampires, immortal blood suckers, and another part of me tells me that it is only fantasy, sci-fic. yet I would love it to be true. I would answer: Yes, I believe in them.



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i belive that there are vampires out there that do get their energy from drinking blood and i would love to believe that some vampires have immortal life, but sadly, i am unable to fully accept this theory. in this case, i'd need to see it to believe it.



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i think there are vampires out there but they arent immortal. i dont think i would want to be immortal, to see loved ones grow old and die without you, it would litterally kill me.



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Yes i believe they are real but about the immortal part who knows.



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There are most certainly vampires out there. Questioning their existence is like questioning whether or not the sky is blue.



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Kytrin
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Do u even pay attention to where you are or what is said in these forums? seems u just want your name on here.
and YES vampyres are real and they get power from different areas
~shakes head~



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For the record, this topic HAS already been discussed (I know because I started the thread).

To answer the question (again), yes we exist...that is made obvious by the fact that we are here and talking and such things.

Do we get power/energy from drinking blood? Umm...YES, that's why most of us who drink it take the time to do it.

As far as the undead, immortal vampires go, it is always possible that they exist. If legends are correct they are the best creatures at hiding. There hasn't been a lot of proof either way, so why close the door on the possiblity?



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I believe in Vampires that drink blood and get energy
but
I don't believe in Immortal Vampires....Somebody would have had to notice someone whos been around longer than the average human..Somebody



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part of me would like to believe in the mythical version... altho I would never wish to be one. Liveing forever would not be a blessing to me... far more of a curse.

Sunlight.. well I burn easily no matter how high of a SPF sunscreen I put on. And even in weak sunlight I need sunglasses or I tend to wind up with a very bad headache. And I have noticed that I go thru more energy when I am out in the sun then I do at any other time.

Garlic.. please on just about anything. lol

undead.. no I am very much alive lol

drink blood.. I would rather have blood than pure energy it seems to fill what ever hole I need filled far better.

entering without being invited.. well that is a personal thing.. I am ABLE to I simpley do not choose to as I find it rude.

there are many other myths that I could list and few have anyhting to do with vamipres that are real.

We are real. we do exist and for the most part I am very glad that people tend to ignore or refuse to admit it... it helps me live a much much quiter life.



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Vampires are very real ..Can one draw energy from drinking blood ? It is not as simple as that but yes it can be done ..live forever ....not in the same body but it is possible in other ways..



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Yes vampyres are real. *sigh* Immortality is an attachment to those of the blood because they age slower than normals do. As far as undead immortals ... thats Hollywood only hun.


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I don't believe in them as Hollywood has portrayed them, but I do believe in them.



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In responce to Upir

"Not everyone agrees... no.

Occasionally sipping some blood and/or imagining you're getting energy from people around you does not make you any sort of "vampire."

Ya know, I would love to see just one of these "sang-vampires" try to live on blood alone, as the "real" vampires they claim to emulate supposedly do. Let's see how much "energy" they get from it after a few days ingesting nothing but blood.

Any of you "sangs" out there wanna take that challenge and down a gallon or two of whole blood daily for a few days and see how "vampire" you really are?"


I agree, just drink blood does not make one a 'vampire', and your right its not just the drinking of the blood that energies them, however you are failing to mention the fact that those that do drink blood from a donor, afterwards are most often recharged, might it not neccisarily be the blood their drinking, but the act of drinking it from the donor that they get their energy. As a sang vamp, I have tried what you have said, and just drank blood that I had stored ... and it was useless, infact it made me ill, however whenever I drink from my wife (ussualy in small amounts, no more then 1/4 pint) I will be energized and very functional for several days with no rest. And do not say its the iron as someone else once said, sence my wife has an iron defenciency, i highly doubt thats what it is. (Personaly science is just another religion that can not explain everything)



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I believe in vampires but I don't believe they live forever



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AngelOfInsanity
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i beleive in vampires and drinking blood does help energize. i don't beleive they are immortal. just long lived. walking in sunlight won't turn any being to dust. just cause dfferent levels of sunburn. hollywood portrays the fair skin of vampires in the sunlight to catch fireand them to burn to death when it started as a little sunburn. yes i believe alot of things mostly beause i experience it myself.peolpe saying vampires and other supposed mythological creatures is wrong. it's just the human interpretation of something a long time ago being over exagerated to become the hollywood version of everything.



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who knows? there are people who will lie through their teeth that they are truly vampires, and there may be people that actually are and never say so. My personal experience leads me to believe yes, but there will be people out there who will sasy I am lying to the end of my days, and maybe they are right! maybe i wasimagining it all! But I don't know.



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Well this looks like a deep subject and there will never be a true answer for any of you but this is a good debate issue. If a person was to travel to romania and ask about vampires like so many have they would laugh at you and say stupid holliwood garbage now go to egypt then they may tend to differ, so who is right. No one is. Medical terminology disects anything abnormal and always has so if there is a thing that your looking for here all I can say watch what you wish for.

Me I will not say what I think but i know there is things that cant be explained and when they want to come out and play they will.



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eroticvamp69
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It's all in the mind!!! Since many believe in the vampire realm, they tend to have symptoms of vampirism. Yes, some do drink blood, some fear sunlight, some hate garlic. As for the drinking of blood and exchanging of blood is called Sadomasochism. IT'S ALL IN YOUR OWN IMAGINATION OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BELIEVE.



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darknessofhell666
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yes im a sang vamp.... they are out there just not showing :)



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brokenprincess
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I believe they are real and they are all over. The livivng forever part I think that is in our heads. I do believe they come back to take another form.



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Drink blood and get energy from it.Yes.
Immortal undead. No.


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LONELYxLOVELYxQUEEN
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its hard in this day to believe in such creatures, but there are monsters and creatures everywhere.



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RaniVampyress
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Well it's hard to say. Vampires look like humans that supposedly walks at night. How do we know that when we walk the dark streets that the person that passed us is an immortal vampire? I can't say I don't believe but I can't say I do.



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I suggest you do some reading...and I quote"and they[the mortal women] became pregnant,and they bare great giants,who consumed all the acquistions of men.And when men could no longer sustain them,the giants turned against them and devoured mankind.And they began to sin against birds, animals and beasts, and to devour one anothers flesh, and drink their blood.then the earth lay accusation against the lawless ones...I am talking of the Nephilim, they had a lust for drinking blood
and also were known as the fallen angels..
this is not a bibical text by the way



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Vampirilla -

You are definitely on the right track re: your references to the Nephilim.

The earliest account of these supposed "Fallen" Angels is found in Genesis ch. 6, written around 1200 BCE, wherein they are specifically blamed for having sexually corrupted Human women requiring their destruction and that of their offspring by the Great Flood.

Then, over 1,000 years later, the Book of Enoch and Jubilees contradicts the original account by stating that their children were bloodthirsty giants (something never stated in Genesis) who devoured everything around them and that this is why they had to be destroyed... not by the Flood, however, but instead by the sword.

Insatiable sensuality had been turned into vilifications of bloodthirstiness.

Then... in Eastern Europe, the exact same pattern occurs with "Vampires" first being described as possessing an "insatiable" sexuality, mating and having offspring by Human females, and then 100s of years later, they are vilified as bloodthirsty supernatural beings that had to be hunted down and slaughtered as a result.

Again... insatiable sensuality vilified as bloodthirstiness.

And about this same time, women were specifically targeted for witchcraft and likewise slaughtered by the tens of thousands during the "Burning Times."

And why? Same reason:

"All witchcraft comes from carnal lust, which is in women insatiable."

- Malleus Maleficarum ("The Witches' Hammer", the "bible" used by the Church in its witch trials, published in 1486 CE)



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i think it´s the ultimative question! it will allways be our opinion or idea, but can "we" really be sure, my version is some questions is not to be answered, why?
because humans are not ready yet, and thats why "we" cant understand or see, whats really is behind the curtain, YET.



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I believe in them fully, I don't think they are just an idea. There are many things that we don't know exist, the things that go bump in the night. So yes, I believe in them, even if they are not what we fully think they are. They might be diffrent, who knows. They might not be real at all, time will only tell I suppose.



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Depends on if you would really call someone who drinks blood crazy...or just a vampire...everyone has a stereotype of right and wrong on a behavioral level as well as on any other like mental status.

I think that blood drinkers are just people. People are just people and some people chose to live life a different way is all.



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I believe that vampires are real....but in a different sense. Being in the medical field I have come across the medical disease of
Porphyria. I had several patients but one stood out in particular. He very calmly explained that this is what he had...but he decided the embrace the thought that he was a vampire, since forever he was called that. So he decided to look the part....

Porphyria



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I think that they are real just not to the extent that we perceive them to be. i think t.v. and movies have put them in places and thoughts that arent realistic



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I go along with black rose. T.v, books, ect make us think of them in a different way but i believe they do exist.



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Upir is correct - most of the old legends make no reference to Vampires drinking blood - it is the life-force or vitality they drain.

as for undead vampires - i've seen one. many years ago i hung out with a bunch of friends who all seemed to congregate at one flat. we all felt drawn to it, even though it was small and damp, and totally unsuitable for a meeting place. we didnt go out - we spent all our time talking to each other and sleeping over. we slept a lot - more than ten hours a day, and never felt refreshed from our "rest2, but rather weaker and drained. some slept even more - 12 or 14 hours a day. it was as if we were gripped by a creeping lethargy that seduced us.

then, one evening, when i felt fed up of it all, i decided to go home, and saw something in the hallway. it looked like a large glowing blob or mist, but made of coloured light. it was shaped like a butterflies wings, and looked very beautiful, but i sensed it was malign. it flew (or glided, it did not flap it's "wings") straight up the stairs at me, and flew over my head as i ducked. i ran down the stairs, and before leaving the house, glanced up at it. it seemed to flicker with anger, and swooped down at me. this time i did not duck, and experienced a strange feeling as it seemed to pass through me. i felt a brief struggle within my mind, then it flew away again in panic.

the next time i returned to the flat - i was prepared. i engaged it in psychic combat, and defeated it. after that, it was as if everyone had come to their senses - people came less and less, and started to get on with their lives again. the small group of friends disbanded and put the place behind us. i did hear that the girl who rented the flat died in a road accident a few years later, but i dont know what became of the others.

whatever that malevolent spirit was, i would call it a vampire - it fed of our energy,



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I havent seen the butterfly wings but i have seen great balls of orbs in my surroundings of my room. only when i take pictures though. they wouldnt show up on the camera when we took double pictures in the same spot so it made me think to myself. spirits maybe? not quite sure.



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