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Just a curious thought the other day...If someone is a Satanist (not that I am tho I have no prejudices) should they say "OMG," since it usually stands for 'Oh My God' and they don't consider 'God' theirs, then what?
Or is it that 'Their "God"' is different from the assumed theory that society usually takes on?
It could just be what everyone says in text talk and such and not really matter to the person, but I wonder if many people think about it...And if they do what is their opinion.




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Some Santanists do worship Satan. He would be considered their "god".

Not sayin' all do, though.


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Interesting...I'd think that some may say it - sort of out of habit. Then again, they could say OMD - 'Oh my Devil'...



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i like to think the phrase has permeated our culture practically to the extent of losing what it actually means and shifting into the generic exclamation category.

also, yeah, what some of the others before me said. it could be god with a lower case "g" and therefore a "catchall" deity of choice and not necessarily the judo-christian God.



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Yes, but why say Oh, my Devil?
Do Christians say Oh, my Jesus?

The devil IS their God, so OMG applies to them.
Actually, the only people it wouldn't apply to are atheists.

So, the real questions should be this:
Should an Atheist say OMG?



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I think OMG is defined by someone up there^ is a cotidian phrase replacing the exclamation connotation. People just say it like as an expression more than the word association. Jesus! Geez! Sheesh! I personally like: Oh my lord!, or Oh lordi!



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Not to burst the discussion bubble here, but this thread has such an adolescent question to it. "OMG?" How low are these thread going to get? What level of maturity needs to be brought into these threads for them to work?

To answer this thread in my own way...

In light of the topic "Satanism", most "Satanists" do not nessessarily worship a "devil" deity. They simply live by a guideline brought about by one Anton Levay. Which is just living by a moral code in such a way that the individual does not believe in reincarnation, so they take every day as it is...

If someone messes with them in a manner that is discontent or disatisfying, then the "Satanist" deals with that individual according to their "Satanic" guidelines.

The phrase "Oh my god." I agree, should not be used by the Atheists. Since in fact they claim not to have a belief in ANY deity.

Of course, since we are on this topic, the pagans should say "Oh my god(s)", as plural since they tend to believe in more then one specific deity.



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I don't think you should be allowed to say "oh fudge" unless you are a baker.


I think both deific satanists and nondeific satanists alike would find this insulting if it weren't so funny.



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haha. i find this humorous!
a lot of people say a lot of things they shouldn't say.
so.. essentially, yeah i guess not but it doesn't matter. cause people are gonna say gay and retard to describe stupid, even though it can be considered offensive.



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I just love how people confuse Satanists and Devil Worshipers, lol, that's really amusing to me.

I have studied alot of religions, as I feel if you are going to comment on somthing, you should at least know a little about it.



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*laughs*

We could change the arguement to:

Should a person who does not worship (a deific) Satan/Lucifer be allowed to call themself a satanist.



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Interesting point.

But when you consider that Satan means opposite, and the idealogy of satanism was created in response to the hipocritical christians La Vey dealt with, Satanism is a good name for it, as it is the opposite to christianity. Satanism is about self worship, and doing what feels right. Creating our own good and evil, and taking responsibility for it. Unlike some Christians who comit adultery, gamble and drink lots, but aslong as they go to church on Sunday and say sorry it's all good.

And then a question should be, should anyone use OMG? as isn't it taking the 'Lords' name in vane?





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Well now, if the individual wishes to super impose the use of the term "using the lords name in vain", they would need to specify to which "lord" they refer to. Since the use of the term "lord" is usually associated with authority in one form or another.

Then again, I dont think society will digress into terms such as "oh my majesty", or "oh my maiden", or "oh my duke."

There seems to be a direct pattern here. So much "faith" in one term that acknowledges said deities, but denounces them in some cases such as the Christian belief.

The use of "blasphemy" is a very broad scope when using the "oh my god" phrase. The progression of this thread would then be considered to change to: Should the phrase "oh my god" be treated as blasphemy?



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Easy familiarity breeds contempt?

I have a pet name for my deity, it's my dog"s name backword.



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God to people are who they choose to worship so if they say OMG i guess its ok



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I don't say either -
A real satanist only worships Himself and life -
we are our own Gods ;



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They would say oh my devil or they would still say oh my god because to them satan is a god..



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i think its basically just being used as a catch phrase

like this morning when i got up the cat had a baby bunny on the living room floor and i said OH MY GODDD

and i wasnt thinking a thing about the devil or god ehtier one i was thinking im gonna kill that cat!!! lol...seriously~jj



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Its a "narrow" subject for such complex reasoning over what the main current of the thread heads in..Satanist, atheist, and other philosophies.



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an Atheist Avast'

" Oh My!"( OM)

A Buddist Avast'

" Oh Zen!" ( OZ)

This thread has the lingering suggestion that someone is nitty picking a person who claims to be a Satanist.

I like how if a person of a faith other then theirs does something out of Character for their faith/ practice. People of other faiths are right there to lambast them, yet when confronted by their own obvious Contradictory behaviour relating to the guidelines of their faith, the same people blather incoherantly in their defense.

So said when Christians so badly want others held to the same restrictive pap that they are.

A fine example of this is " Dont Judge Me."
As if everyone bows to the " word of their god."

I can just see how this issue came up..

probly in a chat forum.

BloodRite: Im a bad satanist..

SisterLight: thats wrong

BloodRite: OMG your one of those Christians.

SisterLight: You said OMG .. That means Oh My Good

BloodRite: no No I meant .. OMG oh Mephestois Goat.



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to be honest i dont really see a satanist,,or at least a true satanist saying omg,,,,,,,,,,,,,i mean..i guess they could,,seeing as oh my god dosent specificly say what god you are talking about when you say it,,,so,,,i guess my answer is no they shouldnt



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Well, I've learned a lil' from this post, namely, not to confuse Satan with the devil - different things. Thank you.

Someone here said:
And then a question should be, should anyone use OMG? as isn't it taking the 'Lords' name in vane?

The answer is no; God is not God's name; it's a noun. God's name would be Jehovah, Yahweh, etc.



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*Sarcastic* ~Isis~ you blasphemous fiend you...

~Dabbler~ has a really good point here. Even if this thread does seem quite petty as I have already pointed out, what makes certain "religious" groups "better" then the rest? (Ending here, dont want this to turn into a religious persecusion.)

Such phrases over time do just turn into minor "catch phrases used by "preppies" for example. "Oh my god, Sandra...did you see her shoes?"

I would say this is just another prime example of taking religious conotations, terms, and texts for granted.



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Memnoch123 states:
A real satanist only worships Himself and life -
we are our own Gods ;

I reply:
You are no more a real Satanist than I as a Theistic Satanist; we have different beliefs but neither of us is 'more' than the other.

Regarding the original question, while I agree with SoulShroude that this is childish, I'm posting here so I'll answer.

OMG, whether said as an actual OMG or the elongated Oh My God, doesn't really mean anything to me. I use it frequently, but more often than not I'm actually saying 'gosh' as opposed to God. Why? Because I always have to monitor my language at work and around my minister Father.



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Considering a lot of people say OMG and have it mean Oh My Gosh I don't see why you need to attach religion to it.

God is a term to refer to various deities. There are the greek gods/goddesses. There are satanists whom worship themselves and call themselves a god. And there are Christians that believe in a sole god.

All of these are a god to someone somewhere, the word "god" isn't an all inclusive Christian thing.



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I am Reminded of an Episoid of Penn and Tellers Showtime show BullSh** Profainity.

An advocat for censorship in the show mentions how insteed of saying Quote "G--Damn It" unquote, she says Buddha Damn It, Penn then mentions how idiotic that is, so blasphemy to another believers icon is fine in her book.."?".



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It is only a phrase. I am sure they do say OMG.



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Honestly, although this thread has some humorous points, I think it's pointless.

A person should have the right to say whatever they want without comment,opinion,prejudice,and so on.

So what if a Satanist says the occasional "omg".

It's like if a preppy/valley person said. You can't say:

'lol'

'ttyl'

'wtf'

and etc. just because you're not from the same social clique.

Also, God/god isn't just a supreme deity, it's an embodiment. Meaning it can embody emotions, and such. It's just a phrase unless you give it meaning.



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Also you forgot another phrase, "GD/GD it".

Should they be allowed to say that, as well, being Satanists, and all. lol



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The word god is just a title and not a name so any deity that a group would worship would be their god although Satan was an angel, lol.

It's just a frame of reference. Many in the west identify with that word as meaning one deity but technically it is not fact. I see no reason why they couldn't say that relative to whomever they believe is god. Even atheists say that. It has become common in the English language to say the phrase. I don't think people even think of the literal connotation of saying it.



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OMG as "Oh Mephistophlis Goat", made me laugh so hard I woke people up.

Islam has 100 names for God, one of them is a secret name. Judaism uses IHVH (transliterated), but generally if you capitalize G it becomes a name and not just a noun.

So, if you said OMg then your usage is not potentially blasphemous, and could apply to other gods and not the Monotheistic God, but as an achronym.

I believe you are suposed to smallcase o and m as well when you achronym ... so you should be saying omG or omg anyway. I recall in the early days of netspeak... or whatever you call it... we always wrote it omg anyway and Never OMG... Capitilization was yelling.

I hate hearing people say lolz, rofl, omg, or gtfo out loud anyway.





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I think that to them it would mean "Oh My God" but in reference to the devil, whereas Christians would see it in the manner that it is said.



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"OMG" has become so common that even some atheists use it; is not a "religious slang"... in the more strict way, the "God" part can be used as an addressing to each individual's God... is not Christian copyrighted.



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well since there is really no standardized definition of what OMG or omg means it's kind of pointless to say this or that person shouldn't say it even if you had a right to tell people what they can or cannot say which no one truly has. omg as it started out means generally oh my gosh or oh my god with nothing capitalized and that mainly because capitalization was/is considered yelling so whether they meant "God" "god" or "gosh" you would only know if you asked them and it is the intent behind it that makes the difference. with the advent of cellphones and texting these abbreviations became more popular than what they ever were originally on the internet. With texting the concept of yelling doesn't hold as true because there are still many phones without full keyboards and many are a pain in the ass to switch back and forth between caps and standard. Add to that many want to over dramatize everything anyway and you get everything in caps.

Ok for the Christian aspect unless your intent was oh my gosh or OH MY GOSH you probably just took the lords name in vain.

From any other religion assuming you didn't mean gosh it could be viewed as them referring to their god and not the Christian God so it's an intent issue.

From a satanists view it could be God as a purposeful slur of Gods name but I doubt many(not meaning just satanists) have that much fore thought with everything they say. So see above.

So to the original question only the satanist saying it knows if they should be saying it or not as only they know what was the intent behind it.



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Yes i think OMG would apply to all. The term "god" i a very loose one not always meaning the christian "god" so i woul say why not use it?



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I'm an atheist and I still say "oh my god." It's a phrase I grew up with and am conditioned to use. Doesn't mean I'm actually referring to or acknowledging the existence of any particular deity. I also answer when other people use the phrase, too. lol. I wouldn't take the concept too seriously.



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"Our Marvalous Galexy" I happen to be an Astronomy Geek as well.

I still wonder as to how this inquiry came to be.



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Jennakarro you wroted this.
The devil IS their God, so OMG applies to them.
Actually, the only people it wouldn't apply to are atheists.

I have to disagree with you here because there is differents form of satanism. Not all satanists worship a devil. To mention a few forms of satanism

*Traditional or Spiritual Satanism - Also called Theistic Satanism or Luciferianism, is the oldest known form of Satanism. It has been around for Thousands of years and has even been traced back to the Roman times before the christian lord and savior "Jesus Christ" ever walked the Earth. The Traditional Satanists do actually claim the existence of a Satan or Lucifer as a "Higher Power or a Guiding Force." The Traditional Satanists don't literally worship Satan or Lucifer as their God. Those misconceptions have been created by the church and other nae sayers who want their respective religions to flourish on the fear of society. The Traditional Satanist looks at Satan or Lucifer as a "Father Figure" and idolize him in that capacity. It is in my understanding that some Traditional Satanists have performed a Sacrificial Ritual, but it is not required in their beliefs. Some Traditional Satanists touch on Demonology and go a lot deeper into that aspect of the spiritual realms.

*LaVeyan Satanism - LaVeyan Satanism is a label given to Satanists found mostly within but is not limited to the Church of Satan™ members. Anton Szandor LaVey founded the Church of Satan™ in October of 1966. A.S. LaVey was a very outgoing Satanist who helped propel Satanism and bring it into the publics eye. A.S. LaVey has 5 books written by him, and several others written about him since. The most popular of these 5 is "The Satanic Bible." The contents of the book might not have originated on LaVeys desk, but he compiled the information in such a way as to literally spark a (r)evolution in your mind. This book alone has brought A.S. LaVey and the Church of Satan™ millions of dollars as well as thousands of members. It is a good read and should be the platform for which to build your lifestyle, beliefs, and thoughts. A.S. LaVey is only a man, a philosopher, and the founder of the Church of Satan™, but there are many out there who have chosen to Idolize HIM while at the same time they are a Satanist. This is where the LaVeyan Satanist term is coined.

*Rebel Satanism - Rebel Satanism is a form of Satanism where you find the most misfits and social outcasts. This is the form of Satanism that actually brings Satanists in general a bad name. They are the rebellious teenagers and the drug addicts who might not have ever even read The Satanic Bible and just use the "evil image" of Satanism as a release. I am not trying to imply that "Goth's" are social outcasts and degenerates in their rebellious ways, but this type of Rebel Satanism is such and commonly associated with Gothic Lifestyles. I have actually found some of the most thoughtful, kind, and intelligent people in the world are the freaks who wear spikes, black clothes and ragged hair. Being a Rebel Satanist is usually a phase and they move on to something else shortly after it gets "old" or they actually pick up a book or two with a "cooler" belief system.

*Modern Satanism - Modern Satanism is what the majority of Satanists are in this Century. There are several Orders, Temples, Guilds, Grottos, and Churches who have popped up since the Church of Satan™ began to change their ways and members broke off. The two biggest ones: The Temple of Set™, and the First Church of Satan™ were both founded by previous members of the Church of Satan™. Modern Satanism is very similar to LaVeyan Satanism only you wont see as many "LaVeyan" supporters. This does not mean LaVey is frowned upon, or walked on, but he is only one individual in the world, and we Modern Satanists tend to always want more. Modern Satanism is a belief system that empowers the individual to be their own God, to be their own caretaker. This does not mean you cannot have a partner in life, a significant other, or a loved one. It means you take care of yourself as opposed to prayer and false hopes asked of a God or complete stranger to do it for you. You are supposed to accept your own responsibilities and be able to accept the outcome of your actions. As a Modern Satanist, you should not depend on a myth to pay for your actions. The stories that some Jesus Christ came to Earth and has paid for your sins does NOT mean you are above the laws today, and you will be held liable for any crimes committed. As a Modern Satanist, You thank YOURSELF for all the hard work and repetition of a task to perfect it, not some man made God. You are the one who soaked many a rag with your sweat and hard labor to become what you are. You need not thank any higher power for these skills. You would want to thank family, friends, and coworkers for their support, and comforting they have provided along the way.

More info you can find at
http://www.modernsatanism.com/




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Me too. What started it???? lol

~waves at muerte~



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I'm pretty sure that satanists say "OMG". GOD is just a term for a higher being that you worship.



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I would bet everyone has said OMG at least one time no matter who they worship.



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People say OMG that don't believe in anything. It's just a 'saying'. I wouldn't analyze it.



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The sub text of this question suggest that someone is attempting to gain leverage against another persons belief, by hyping a common phrase, somehow this implies that somehow the person is " slipping from their belief, (or professed practice).


"For Petes sake' already."

I think one would find the accepted origin of that phrase rather intresting.

My mom was not a devote catholic, she did however know Jesus' middle initial " Jesus H. Christ" I learned that that phrase means by proxy ..
"I have had it up to Here * holds arms out to side*"

Omg ( goodness) NHD ( no he didn't)


*imagesinwords* edit: H stands for Howard, named after his Dad and all, you know... we say it in 'The Lord's Prayer': "Our Father, who art in heaven, Howard be thy Name..."

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No wonder you turned out the way you did dabbler...
your mother was a blasphemer!

*laughs*

You are your mothers penance.

as are we all.



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What about those who exclaim "Jiminy Cricket!"??? I don't think anyone is deifying the cricket :P



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Great Scott! Has nothing to do with Star Trek. For bragging rights can you
find the origin of the popular exclaimatiom?

*imagesinwords edit* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Scott



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Jeepers Creepers, is likely a malipropism of Jesus Christ.



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Hmmm Isis101

I like your post sister...

Should satanists say OMG?
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Well, I've learned a lil' from this post, namely, not to confuse Satan with the devil - different things. Thank you.

Someone here said:
And then a question should be, should anyone use OMG? as isn't it taking the 'Lords' name in vane?

The answer is no; God is not God's name; it's a noun. God's name would be Jehovah, Yahweh, etc.



It's a noun yes at this point I think it's just a noun, and anyone can call anyone or anything there "God" in this day and age.....As usual you rock! I can't believe this is still being discussed....(laughing)



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~Images~, the Cricket is GOD!!! All hail the Cricket! Dont tell me that as a child he made you cry too...

*imagesinwords edit* Again, now it's out there.... and we can never take it back.



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SoulShroude: That is very funny as I really DO say My gods in the plural.

Isis: I agree that God isn't god's real name and therefore is probably not using it in vain.

Pantervamp: OMG's that is just too much information man! I am sorry. I tend to think this on the subject. Satanism was named for Satan. If you don't worship him, rename your damn religion...lol. I don't see the point in naming it after something you don't do. So in my eyes, SATANISTS worship Satan and other kinds of Satanism do not exist. I just think it silly childishness. If you worship yourself, you are an Atheist. I call it as I see it...sorry if I offend anyone. I am a very literal person and wording means everything to a writer.

I do agree that OMG can mean Oh my gosh, though. I have done that thousands of times myself.



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Or "Oh My Gonads!" hehe



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Thanks Pantervamp for stating that there's more than one type of Satanism, usually people just have their own belief of what Satanism is, yet there's more than one type and many don't know it.

Just to reply to the original question, yes because it's just a phrase. There's no rule about what anyone is allowed to say or not, there can be moral ones, but you can decide to obey them or not.

This reminds when I and a group of people were discussing about Atheists cursing god and they said, that they shouldn't do so, because they don't believe in anything, personally I wouldn't care less.

OMG is just an exclamation of surprise, it's not about offending or praising a god. Many use it, because they got used to it.



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NymzanSusauren
Once again i disagree with you. Im sorry hun but let me explain why all the different forms of satanism have the label satanism. There is a good reason behind it. First of all let us see what the word satan means.

Satan simply means "adversary" or opponent in Hebrew.
The Character Satan was later created by the church, to instill the fear of evil into the masses.
*imagesinwords edit* Watch how you say things... this is better stated as an 'I believe' statement in the forum and not as if fact because you could be offending people's religion here because of it.

He was then later equated with Lucifier, as the angel had been the only "recorded" personality who has gone head to head with God.

When see the meaning of the word so can you see it not nessesary have to be opponent to the christian god. It can also be an adversary or opponent to how the world working and against what the world see as normal. That was an example and there is many examples on it. It only is needed to lift the eye up from the holybible and see it in a wider perspective so to speak. So yes you can be an satanist without to belive in what the holybible says satan is. I just wanted to clarifie this matter up in this topic.



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*reads through the thread posts*

Wow, some of these are soooo off topic.....but to answer the question. I agree with some of the posts i read earlier that stated that for satanists, Sataan is their god, so in a way for them it works. OMG, would then work for just about any religion that believes in a higher power.



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Wouldn't it be similar to a christian saying "The devil made me do it" or "The devil is in the details", or even possibly "Go to hell".

The worshiping a thing or following a path doesn't mean not using colloquialisms.



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You just made me recall Ned Flander "H-E- double hockey sticks"

Even "Gosh Darn" was banned at catholic schools ( as in one would be admonished for saying it under their breathe)

" Oh Heck"

Even " Oh My Goodness" was inciteful in stricter baptist influenced towns.

I still am found of a Southern exclaimamatiom " Heavens to Betsie"

perhaps evolved from " Holy Cow"

Which brings up a segment of the Penn and Teller video I posted.

An advocate for clean speech ( censorship) " exclaims " Santa Vokia" of spainish for " Holy Cow" to avoid taking her lords name in vane.. Yet is not the Cow sacred to Hindu?



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Depends on what brand of satanist your talking about, Anton Levay worshipped the materealistic and flesh aspect of the world and our purpose in life, his theorie is if it feels right then do it! or it could be those who truely worship Satan, in any case since "oh my god" is a blasphamie I figure any true Satanist would jump at the chance to exloit God. To believe in Satan you have to believe in God since each is a counter balance.



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Consitering the Devil is the god of a Satanic worship if they say omg it is meaning their god not any other so i think it is perfectly fine for a satinist to say omg



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True Satanists worship their selves and not the devil...It tells You this as well..My Opinion is all...I have a True Satanist as my Mentor and well..anyways



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Pantervamp: Better watch it...Imagesinwords got you there...Lmao, but I suppose I see your point. I am a fan of wording, so if that is the real word in Hebrew...then I would agree. I love the story of the Bible and Christ, but I am NOT a big fan of hypocritical, Christian Churches...

(BEFORE YOU TELL ME TO EDIT MY WORDING>>If you read the Bible carefully, you will note that Jesus himself was NOT a big fan of hypocritical churches either. Hell, they helped kill him.)

So I would have to say that yep, the church probably made him up and slapped the angel's name to it.

Still, I never agreed with the Churches that Jesus hated Lucifer either. If your best friend betrays you...sure you are going to be mad and upset about it for a while, but you still love 'em and wish you could see eye-to-eye again. It doesn't sound right that he has spent eternity trying to punish him. Sounds like he would spend it trying to be his friend again to me...Just my thoughts on it...

P.S. Reminder: I had a gang of Satanists try to kill me once, so I don't delve into the subject much. Bad memories...



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Omg I never thought about that!

Satanists saying Omg ehh?
Yes, they should say it, because their God is or can be the devil...so technically it would still be "their god".
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I think it's ok for them to say that. Satan can be their god. Also, I know plenty of catholics/christians that say "What in the devil" or "What the hell."



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The architect Mies van der Rohe used to say "God is in the details" as opposed to "The devil is in the details", meaning that details make for greatness.

Its amazing how different a saying is based on a one word difference.

OMG's meaning doesn't change due to the beliefs of person using, but changing it to different words would.



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I dont think it really matters since Satanists dont worship the Devil but do Their-selves...They or most follow Anton Lavey's guidelines..Again this is how I am and what I follow



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God is any name pertaining to any Deity of worship. So if a satinist says OMG, then how do we not know he is not in reference to his/her God of choice.

LOL: I don't know how all bibles are written, but Howardbe thy name? LOL.
I believe that is Hallowed be thy name: meaning Holy.



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A very amusing topic. I think that if people do sayit/type it, that its used as a way to express shock/amazement/surprise. Not necessarily in the religous manner. It has become a common term in the net/ txt world.



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Could be that a yin yang idea exists with them. That being that there can be no positive without a negative. So saying OMG is just used in the context of slander...



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Should a Professed Christian, get" worked up" when a professed satanist says omg?



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I think the only reason OMG is questionable at all is that one of the 10 commandments prohibits using gods name in vain. But yet I don't think many people believe saying OMG breaks the commandment.



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Or Monty Python's Life of Brian, where the man gets stoned to death for saying the dinner his wife prepared was "fit for god." And that was considered a blaspheme. lol



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In this context, no...they should not be saying OMG!
In fact there are a lot of things a lot of people shouldn't be saying, we should really keep those alternative beliefs in check, especially regarding a dead, or at very least dying God.



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I never thought about the fact that Satanists can say OMG because Satan is their God. So if you say Good Lord you could say Bad Satan instead maybe also.



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OMG is an expresion or a praise to what ever GOD you worship so yes they can say OMG.I do and I am agnostic I worship Gia and all things nature related.So my GOD is nature,Not a being or an entity so then I suppose I can not say OMG lol



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I'm an atheist, thank God.



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OMG ( Oh My Galexy) Blood mother you speak atheist heracy.



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lol She is not speaking atheist heracy if she is refering to herself as a GOD/GODESS lol



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good lord = bad satan (that was funny)

I am an atheist, thank god (not so much)
I still don't really get the whole satanist=I worship me thing
but that is fine. I understand 98% of all religions everywhere
I don't have to understand them all. Seems like somewhere
in our history before it became a popular term, someone
smart would have seen the confusion and changed the name.
Oh, well...guess they missed that one.



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i think i would say... oh my f'n god



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vamplez says:
So if you say Good Lord you could say Bad Satan instead maybe also.

I reply:
Really, it would be the same logic as with OMG - Satan is the God that I worship, so when I say 'Good Lord', it is Satan I consider my 'Lord'. For me, saying 'bad Satan' would be counterproductive. The Satan I worship is not 'bad', He brings enlightenment and knowledge to those who seek it.

**** Just my two cents on my particular path of Satanism, which I do not consider to be more 'true' than any other version. Neither am I, by the way, a devil worshipper although I understand there might be a few who combine Satanism and devil worshipping. ****



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most satanist I know, say OMG mostly as a joke. It's weird. But it's what I have noticed.



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i agree with karro up top OMG ...their god is SATAN...hence to their personal believes he is their god...so when they say it its in ref to him . athiest on the other hand do not believe in any "god " so to them its irrelevant.



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Just to throw this page out there, for those who may actually be interested...(I hope it works, has been a while since I created a link)



interesting, although in all honesty, I do feel this argument is completely futile.
To place importance in such over-used and disposable sentiments....
In most ways, we are far beyond god now.



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Okay, that did not appear to work...so...

the manual method:

http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/God.htm



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Lets just say that from now on OMG really means "Oh My Gosh". That way it is a non issue.



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yes they can say oh my god or by the gods it does not matter which diety you praise the OMG is just a phrase many say if i worshiped a rock and it was my god i could still say OMG but for me it would mean the rock



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You misunderstand...the words are fairly irrelevant...

It is the thoughts that are important.

If ones say OMG...n looks up

That is Betrayal...

If one thinks not at all but the Drak energy flows...OMG..

Do you really think the Diety knowns not to whom it applies?

Do not apply Human rationality to Gods...they will always sense a million times of that of which you and I mere mortals know.LOL.x.

We are just Maggots.Accept it...N seek wisdom.X



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Well I think they can say it if they'd like to...

Since some worship satan as god and others may worship themselves as god...



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*Clears throat* Yeah, I dont think anyone has the power to tell any other what to say and how to say it. So what if a supposed Satanist calls out "oh my god." Who are we to judge words and emotions?

Same goes for the preps and stuck up snobs out there that use the initials of O.M. and G for their conversations.

Once the first ammendment is vandalized and stripped away from us, then so be it... But I doubt it will happen any time soon. Live with it and remind yourself that society couldnt care less about who says what to who.



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Even though we don't really have it, I believe in the right of free speech. People should be able to SAY whatever they want, actions however, are another thing entirely...


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as a satanist I say OMG just like an expersion on tallking to the others people



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Yes ~Angelhell~, but which type of "Satanist" are you? The Luciferian doctrine satanist, or the self preserving satanist who thinks of themselves as their own god?



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it is actually telling when peoples obession over the degree of devotion they
practice, and apply to their beliefs, or philosophy.

It is rather notable that most who are so preoccupied with the devotion/or lack of devotion of others are usually in waining in their practiced faith. How often I see " hazard Christians" dust of their holy robe, and call people of other beliefs on petty semantics.

I would wager that such people are confronted by their own contridictions, and hypocrasies so much that they welcome.. Even pounce upon such petty things as a professed Satanist ejaculating OMG. I would suspect an underlying motive in such a case.



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well of course they can they have their own form of higher power depending on the type of satanist some worship themselves as a god though in a way it may sound ironic at first but even though their god may be the opposite of anothers...



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I personally am a Levayan Satanist and I do use the term "OMG". However, this oddly enough is a question that I have asked myself. My typical conclusion is that this term and others similar in nature are simply common phrases that have lost any traditional meaning. I grew up hearing other kids and even family members using the term quite often, yet I never attached any religious signifigance to it. Although I am sure that there are others who do easily identify it as a religious term, I personally never have. In my eyes it is a quite simple exclamation that many people put to much thought into.



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01:37:55 Jul 15 2009
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LaVeyan Satanist.



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03:58:53 Jul 15 2009
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There is no religious significance to it. It is just a saying.



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well I think it is just a phase/ reaction not like they are calling on god for a prayer or anything as such. I say it but, out of habit nothing more.

So Why can't they say it ? I do not see any reason for them not to be able to say it. and it does not mean it is my god or theirs or anyone technically so....



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06:25:40 Jul 15 2009
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it's more common speak than anything now. everyone says it no matter what religion they are. but i have hear variations like "oh my gods", "oh my goth" or "oh my thor".



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08:23:21 Jul 15 2009
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Simple variations heard throughout society may be:

OMG - preppy
Oh my god - out of pure excitement
Oh my god(s) - Pagan or polythiestic
Oh my goth - Mockers of the goth genre
Oh my (name of god here) - Religious followers
Oh god - pure excitement in the most intimate of times

That about breaks it down...



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08:32:35 Jul 15 2009
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I'm sure it might have been said above, but OMG is something everyone says. My boyfriend believe in nothing yet he still says it. It when said "Like omg did you see her pant" Or "Omg Really babe you went and did that?"
When you say it like that it holds no true true meaning to it.
Now when said like "Oh my god please help me" Or "Oh my lord do you hear me" Is more of a asking your God for help or begging for him to hear you.
I do not think it would make a difference if you use a lower case g to a upper case G, its all really the same.



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