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I did not see anything on this topic so I thought it might be interesting to see the results.

When I was a girl my mother had an old war clock that was given to her by her grandfather. This was no ordinary clock though. It had dead soldier's buttons burned into the back. This clock gave us much grief over the years.
It would often begin to chime without warning, even after they removed the springs. The strangest part was it wasonly if someone was looking at it. iEven spirits had appeared to people inside of the clocks face a few times.

I want to know if any of you have had a similar experience and do you believe that physical objects can be portals to the spirit world.

My ex's mother had died when he was about 11! Well she had given his grandparents an anniversary clock. It was the oddest thing! It would always chime at a cetain time of day, after she had passed away. They went so far as to take the batteries out, but still it keeps time & chimes! Kind of odd that it was a clock in your experience & mine.

Though there is a remote possibility a "spirit" may be attracted to an object, I am not sure about it being a portal.

Dark Greeting's,
I use portals and time.It sounds like a very interesting Clock.I have a ring my Grams gave me that I can travel through a portal in it to many different plains.Myself I would try to go through it ,But please don't try it unless you know how.(I will probably get shit for this one) But as my first teacher told me since I rarely listened (we still laugh about it 13 yrs. later)Leave detailed noats of what you do so someone can come find you.Just my opinion.I am a Travler of Space Time and Demension
Dark blessing's,
KA
PS try to talk to the faces alot of times they just want you to tell there story.
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Perhaps the clock is not a portal , but attached to the dead it is attached to ? I have seen objects that have had spirits attached to them or in them , so to say . I look at a portal as a bigger thing , but I suppose a spirit does not need to be confined by "our" definitions of size .
I have a spirit portal in my house . It is at the intersection of two lay (spelling)lines in my house . So my house does attract many different things and has many a diverse activity in it . There is as well a crossing of another set of lay lines farther up and away from my house in my woods .
I have friends who are far more sensitive than I who have similar feelings at diffenernt times and unknown to each other . I did have someone come visit my house that was a stranger to the others who spoke of similar things the others and I have .
I hate to say , but I need a spirit to kick me in the face to get my attention most of the time .
V S

Most objects has a essense to it, a history of its past. If your open enough you can feel it. And if the essense is stronger enough it can be, or rather a link to the person who owned it. Like a person who in their living life got strongly attact to a teddy so when they died, they would go where this teddy went. Objects can sometimes be the link behind worlds. You can even get like flash backs off them, speically if their old.

Well this what I think....

objects get animated by the power of the talisman effect

spirits are the things that animate the nonliving

I think you sensed a strong spirit coming from it, but I don't think the spirit was within

it did however as you say link you to a spirit world

As far as portals go, not sure if I believe in a portal. Do spirits, demons, other-worldy creatures really need a 'portal'? If they are to connect, they don't need an object to do so. At least that's my opinion.

I, too, have experienced a coocoo clock that had no pendulum. It was my great grandmother's. My dad had gotten it for her when he was stationed in Germany and when she died, it was given back to him. He had it hanging up in his den and it would go off at 3pm, in the morning and in the afternoon. For some apparent reason, I have ended up with the clock and although it's not on my wall, it's put away, there are times we hear the coocoo bird. Just makes me wonder...

I don't think it is a portal ..think the person who passed just has a connectivity to the object.

Sorry but I don't believe spirits need portals. While I think they do become attached or obsessed with places I just don't think they need physical items.

They might be portals...Or, they might accumulate bad energy over the years from their owners...and by that making them a pinpoint, a way of the spirits to manifest...
One easy way to get rid of that...Reiki! Cleaning the bad energy... or any other way of reestablishing the normal order of the enrgy flow in the object and erase its past...

this may sound a bit crazy but a few months ago i thought my computer was taken over by a spirit, especially since where my computer is in my house is a room where my brother and mother saw a ghost and they were frightened like nothing i ever saw before

and then my computer starts doing strange things like the clock advancing time and staying on a certain time and date. and it also has played many classical songs and videos that i never downloaded or even heard before. i have also heard of others computers getting possessed by spirits

I think that a person may have some connection to an object but i dont see how it could be a portal.

It could happen. I mean, My Mom told me about this show she watched, in ireland, about how there was a teenage mother who had just given birth, and one night, the father of that child killed the baby while it was asleep in the bassenet. and the babys spirt had hung on to the bassenet. A new couple had moved into this house in ireland and were doing rennovations, but apparently it disturbed the babys spirt and it would throw tamtrums and break things. they had to get a pyhsic in to realise the babys spirt. it was really quiet interesting.

A portal, I don't think so. I believe that a spirit can roam at will and can posses an object for a period of time, but does not require it for travel. I to possess a clock that belonged to my grandmother. It is a 7 day key wind clock that has not been wound in years, but there are some nights that the pendulum will begin to sway from side to side then the chime will ring then all is silent again. I find no evil in this but choose to believe that my grandmother is speaking to me in some way.

i don´t think that spirits need protals to come to this world. my grandad did suicide and i got his watch and it does nothing to me. but i can feel him sometimes walking through me. that is givin me a good feeling too.

Objects can be marks, pinpoints for the spirits to help them localise a certain point in time and space...so can humans, too, by using the object's energy signature... But portals? No... maybe keys...but certainly not a portal...

When i am in deep meditation, I have a portal. It reminds you of the full moon. people and events comes on, its like watching television, only things do come to pass.

I don't know if "portal" would be the most appropriate term, but it is quite common for a spirit to link themselves to a certain object (or person).

I don't believe an object itself can be a portal, but I do believe an object can be focused on and used to create one maybe. I havn't had a personal experience with this, but it is an interesting topic.

I don't think it's a portal. I agree with those who are saying that spirits don't need portals. I think it's more likely that the soldiers energy got absorbed by the buttons and is attached to the clock by proxy.

i have mirrors that are like portals..i dont think it is anything specific...just what you believe might be one is sometimes right sometimes wrong....

Hmmm must be a thing with clocks.....my parents had a clockthey brought over here from germany it was given to my grandmother by her neighbor who they said was a witch and that the clock was cursed well even though i was young i remember seeing faces in the face of the clock and object like plants that were put near it would die or disappear even the chimesz sound changed it started annoying my dad so he took the batteries out we swore even after he removed then we heard it sound off at midnite every night

windows have been know to reflect the image of a spirt that dwelled in the house or room.

No, not to me. However I have used a mirror to view my past lives.

I don't know if portal would be the best term! Maybe these objects just some how link them back or draw them to it! I do think it's odd that clocks keep showing up in this thread tho. That has me a little intrigued.

I also have to say that though I believe in boh portals and spirits, I don't believe them to be exclusive to one another. I believe that spirits can roam freely whereas portals are stationary, just unseen by the naked eye.

hell hast frozen over....he both made a decent point...and kept it at less that a few dozen paragraphs...there may be hope for you yet pariah...but I doubt it
this does sound like a classic hauntings case, if you still have that clock, it might be interesting to try doing some EVP studies with it....

well i personally have ye tto expeirience this. but i have talked too many who have, and the yall say that is like a door to this persons, mind at the time, during their life, and what they were going through...dont know if that makes any sense, but thats whats ive been told..

I'm not sure if portal is the right word for it, but an object that the spirit knows will get your attention to know that they are there, that might make more sense

i think there are portals all over the place. we are just starting to notice them more now days.

I wouldn't go so far as to say there are portals. Energy simply goes to like energy. You put enough archetypical crap around something and you are bound to start collecting similar energies around it.

Much like the aspect of if you are looking for trouble you are going to find it. Your mind set powers the outlook you have and will often lead you to where you want to go. Spirit energies, science, and all the other good stuff work through the same rules.

I do alot of scrying in a blackened mirror and i find i can do alot of astral traveling or viewing in this way. I know some who no longer use a mirror or other object to travel so to speak.That just daydreaming and relaxing will get them where they wish to go.

interesting views to be sure,while a spirit can be drawn to somthing specific is a certainty,ill agree with darkselene,we are only just now in this day and age starting to see portals for what they are

my grandmother had this old aunt jamima cookie jar she loved it stashed all her important thing in it......its funny now cause everytime you pick up aunt jamima or move her our phone would ring there would be static but no one on the line my mom told me i was nuts..... after finishing going through my grandmas stuff after a month my mom took aunt jamima home .... still to this day everytime she touches it or moves it the phone will ring and no one will be there just static....... my mom dont call me crazy now.....lol but anyway yeah i belive that certain object can still be attached some how to the energies or that of the person that owned them......

I have had my own experiences with this. My cousin was given these dolls from a so called friend of hers. Well sense these dolls came into her home strange things happened. Her room remained very cold no matter the temp of the rest of the house. She would feel things touch her in the night. She would get a shortness of breath like she was being choked or smothered in her sleep etc. She looked to a higher power other then herself. When they narrowed it down that it was the dolls and burned them it stopped she had no more issues.

When I think of portals, I view them like doors. I was always told that any doorway can be used as a portal.

I had one of those similar experience at a house I lived, I always heared my son crying as a baby, then one day Iw as so piss I hit the wall in his closet and borkc it, making a whole in it and ending up having a form coming to my bed and it was so scarry that i made my exhusband who did not see it scream out of fear cause of my release of fright. The next day I did'nt see or feel any fear ever, that had lasted over 4 years, before I had the guts to and face that closet.

my grandma's house, omg, when iw as little, i would get shoved into the wall everynight, and i couldent explain it, sometimes i'd get shoved off my bed too!, later i found out that my grandma died int hat house, and that i was in her room, i, to this day, will not step foot back into that room.

I have a loved one and he shared a story with me that when he was a child his family was given a tv. He stated that you could feel the energy that was given off of this tv. He stated that you could hear people talking in the tv when they shouldnt be. It would turn itself on and off. He stated that images would apper in the screen when it was off. He thought that because its a energy source that some had gotten caught in the tv.

as far as I can recall, some obects have been exorcised. Therefore some spirits can invade the inanimate

The television is very interesting. I wonder if strong currents of electricity can draw spirits to an object.

yeah televisions are portals, though they are not interactive, more of a tool to manipulate vampeeps.


The computer is a portal that has been known to occupy a house, say yours in fact, and strong spirits can take over these portals, but exorcisms are pretty weak in the attempts of the computer owner to remove the spirit virus, because the spirit isn't really in the computer,

what one has to do in either the case of a possessed computer or television is to unplug the cable going into it, and keep your fingers crossed.

Ultimately human nature is to stare into the sun even when you are told not to, andn this is why exorcisms of portal objects always fails.

It's called science fiction. Seriously, if anyone here has mastered the ability to travel through space and time I would really like to know the secret as would everyone else on the planet.

As far as the "hearing" a sound made from an object that repetitively made the same sound in ones life, it is likely it is just an auditory illusion a recall if you will.

i have never had an experience like that but as ppl tend to cling onto something dear tyo them in life it is very possible that they do the same long after their death. so yes i believe its possible

Tego, I am glad to see you stuck with the site, we have lost many great members because of the petty soap opera dramas on here, and all the nasty stalking.


The auditory hallucinations are a part of this somehow, funny how you bring it up.

If we are to remove demons or spirits from objects or portals, then what do we replace them with?

We replace them with us, with our voice.

I did something wrong in trying to take my body fully over, and I had a second chance to hypnotise myself right with an auditory mantra that would fold time and space, to give a continuity of the life experience.

Life goes beyond the now point, we have to go back to the past, connect with the original quest, and nin answering the question of the future, the harmony between then now and the future has to have some semblance.

The auditory hallucination can be short, it can be subdivided into categories, or it can even be something complex you want to put to memory to be able to retrieve it by heart.

I chose a poem to memorize. The poem was the first one I wrote when I decided to become a writer. I have never matched the essence of the poem in any other poem that came after it, because it was written with the power of a first time heroin high, where every othrer time never is as good as the first.

Therefore since the poem was a special one, and it was all encompassing, and I was trying to cover over a glitch of a virus implanted in my audible hallucination, I decided to bury the demon for all time, with perfect poetry, so the sound would never arise again to make me question myself.

I had never memorized the poem before, and I don't know how I retrieved it from my memory since I had never committed it to memory, but somehow I did.

I do not wish to feel bad about my animal halves. For me the physical union with another is on another level.

about the clock issue. While this was going on, (because this just occured) first I was summoned into a trance by a firtruck, and then I was brought out of it by a Church bell that never stopped ringing.

Actually I never heard that church bell before.

Thank you Vampariah.

This is what intelligent threads and discussions are made of.

This is going to soung stupid, but at my house we have a haunted key hole. I don't know much about it, but I've heared stories.
My father at the time was a teen and had just gotten out of a bath. When he walked by the attic door an animation bubble came out of the key hole and in it it said Boo!. I've heared that strange things like that have happened before involving that key hole.
It's stupid, but it's funny.

I believe there is a practice called scurring....?...I think that is what it is called anyway you might find it interesting.

Do you mean scrying? Where you use refelctive objects to project right? I have never done anything like that.

So do those of you who have heard of or experienced such things yourself, do you believe that these visions or sounds are imprints left behind from someone's past life, an actual apparition (ghost) of some kind or a maybe just a trick of our own imagination?

VAMPARIAH,

What makes you state with such assurance that Television is not an interactive experience?

You appear to imply that it used as a tool for the manipulation of the mind, which I tend to agree with, but it's not a one-way street.

Take, for instance, the way in which an individuals psyche appreciates the information received. It can and more often, will be different from that of another.

So, I might 'see' something different within a program than yourself and thus, form a contrasting opinion of what that means, to me.

This then makes the manipulation dependant upon our point of view when coming to experience it.


Further, have you any thoughts on live TV and the potential uses of that medium?
Where the 'portal', is almost as a gaping chasm for certain types of energy work...

we cannot manipulate the TV "programming"

it is a one way portal


live TV, the interviews on say Leno or Letterman are all rehearsed. There is no such thing as spontaniety on live TV either.

As the actual "vampire" existed only in the Slavic accounts of Eastern Europe (no, vampires cannot be found in almost all cultures just because other beliefs exist in demons or creatures who might share a trait also ascribed to the modern fiction of the "vampire"), if the truth is to be sought re: who and what the original "vampire" was and is, one must go to these earliest of accounts and not the later fictitious bastardizations of same that resulted most recently in Stoker's "Dracula" and all subsequent Hollywood-esque fictions.

And should one do so, one quickly discovers that the primary traits today considered "vampiric" did not exist prior to about the 17th Century. The only trait still found in modern fiction that was originally factual is the belief that the "vampire" (upir', vapir, vampir, etc.) was one who had returned from the dead. As to why they had returned and what they did following that supposed return... well, to discover truth from fiction, one must study the actual first-hand accounts of all such as reported by the Slavic populations of Medieval times.

VAMPARIAH,

I strongly disagree.

Perhaps you didn't make it all the way through my post, or skipped over it too quickly to appreciate what I was attempting to imply.

Maybe it would be better explained if I said that as we each interperate the world in our own unique way, so do we also with TV programming.

That the intention of the program is to adjust our minds towards a particular mode of thought, is not in doubt, but, dependant upon the position of our opinion within the socio-political spectrum, we will react in a certain manner towards that programming attempt.

And then, those minds which are more 'awake' than the majority, ought to be capable of discerning the BS and rejecting the program.


And with Live TV, why limit yourself to such a narrow concept?

Live broadcasts are used for almost anything and everything now, from selling cheap crap on the shopping channel, through news reports, to interviews- in entertainment certainly, but also political and scientific.

And this is without even touching upon the use of webcams.

Are you able to see the potential use which I'm hinting at, or are you truly blinded by your own opinion that you do indeed, know how everything works and so, everyone else must accept your point of view?

I feel that object of interest are more of a trigger, rather than a portal. There are three different ways I could describe what I mean.

1. The object is a trigger for a sensitive person. Whatever it may be, it can open up a medium enough to allow spirits to communicate.

2. It is a trigger for a spirit. It could be an item that once belonged to them, or it may resemble something they owned.

3. It is a different kind of trigger for a spirit. What I mean by this is that the spirit may use it to grab the attention of someone that isn't able to communicate at the spiritual level.

"There are no haunted places, only haunted people." This is a common quote, used many times over. The "people" could refer to the living person the spirit once was, or it can mean the people that attract the spirits into communication.

Stab, I get your point. No I am not always right, I read it all, but I didn't understand the significance. I know you are a watcher, and the way you ended Porphyra's lover topic yesterday, and the time that you did sent a subliminal message to me. The programming told me to keep going and the very ssame message, the programming told you to tell me to give it up. I don't know if you know you were manipulated to save my ass, but you did, I guess in the future if you don't want to save my ass then don't close a thread even if is the proverbial horse beaten to death. Unless you like having Vampariah around?

Yes, eye of beholder and all that, we all have roles to play, I am the pinata, and you hold the stick Stab666.

This is a long thread and although i have read it all, I've forgotten the first bit.

Here's my thoughts for what they're worth

If I think that a portal is a 'gateway' then an object could be a portal but no more so than anything else - that is I don't think a spirit would be bound to use the same portal day in and day out, other than habit

I think that something like an object is likely to be affected by 'imprinting' which i read about on another thread. A persons energy makes like a photograph impression on an object that some people can either see or just sense.

I'm not sure about the computer - I remember something about psi vampires feeding down electrical cables.

A little off topic, but is in here so hey ... Although I have probably missed the point altogether I have to agree that a TV is very much a personal experience: watching people after the news coverage of any disaster is the easiest way to see that - some will see it as simple information - some will demand more information - some will burst into tears - some will get angry - others will point fingers desperate to blame someone - some will start fundraising : 100's of different reactions to the exact same news programme. The news images were reacting with each of these people on a very personal level. Future TV programmes will be driven on how those people react. I hope I have understood what was being discussed there.

Dagnabbit ... I knew there was something esle that I was thinking of

Can someone put some thought into a Ouija (sp?) board - if you believe that they actually do something with spirits, isn't this the ultimate example of how an object acts as a portal?

Yes
But ask yourself before you use
What is this a portal to

Artyemka

can you elborate on imprinting? If it is a photographic phenomena then it is an object... are we tallking baout haunted photogrpahs then?

and then does that connect to the Indian and Muslim faiths that avoid getting their photos taken because it captures their soul?

I know in an interview that was done in France I told the interrogator that photographs are not 2-D posters, but they are a window one can look through, a window of a moment in the past, and a scene through which you can be a part of just by looking.

Yes you did miss the point about programming, some day you will be horrified by it.

And what lore do you know of, Artyemka, about vampires crawling up computer cables or electrical wires?

I know I get the sensation of being hunted when packs of vampires make posts to battle with meon here when I should out be doing something else.

Then of course the TV has each character approaching as I read each post of the vampire pack posters, and then came the Bear... the commercial will say

and then the last poster of the vampire pack meant to keep me at the computer to make me battle my wits, and keep me from doing something else, I will have to fend off because that is what vampires, we do not assimilate knowledge to be dubunked by people who travel in packs because they are not whole. It is not like I am not immortal, I have all the time in the world to juggle and fend off weak minds.

VAMPARIAH

The imprinting is 'like a photograph' not literally a photograph .... just as a photograph is an impression of light on some sort of chemical film, so an imprint is an impression of energy on a background / room or object.

The part about vampires feeding through cables is no lore that I am aware of. It was a thread that was debated here, it ended up with something about energy. I haven't said that I knew of anything crawling up wires.

I will try not to be horrified when I learn what I misunderstood

yes part of dealing with everyday devices that actually in the long run eventually do alien surgery on you, is that while it is happening at least you have been warned, and so it is alright to lower your guard.

When things attack us out of the blue that is when we do not have the ability to accept the thrust and the adroit ability for the device to move us right.

vampariah,

Your response to me was way off topic and totally avoided delving into the concept which I was alluding to.

If you have something to say about the closed topic, then feel free to message me, as I asked.

As to the 'portal' of TV, particularly live TV, would it not be a consideration that since it is a transmission of energy, this could be 'piggybacked' by other energy forms?

And secondly, would you think it possible to utilise that live viewing of the other as a means with which to extend energy towards, or even draw energy from, their being?

well stab, I will answer your second question.

The portal of the Television has been found by many to be haunted or manipulative, so to draw people back to the television, to make them feel like they are in control rather than being controlled by the television, they created the LIVE television genre, to make people think it is not unscripted.

It is a false sense of security done by television producers to get us to start watching again and to just sit there all winter long.

Yes it is possiable that is a portal for spirts to appear but dont take chances. You never know if its good or evil.
~Yours In The Darkness~

Objects As Portals? Defenitely. I Had Once An Old Onyx Ring Who Had A Trapped Spirit In It, I Believe The Owner Was A Wiccan Witch Who Died. To My Relief It Was A Teenage Girl Who Did Not Seek To Harm. A Restless Spirit Who Seeked Perhaps A "Family"?

I would love to hear more explanation of the soldiers buttons. Was there ever any reason given for burning dead soldiers buttons in the back. That seems like a pretty strange and mysterious method of memorial...but I like it.

Felix,

As I understand it, this is a practice developed long before there were such a thing as dog tags, so with the regimental insignia often raised on the buttons of the uniform, it would make it easier to identify where the dead came from.

So the buttons were collected after someone died? Who decides who gets the buttons? How did someone think to burn them onto a clock? Burned as a mark or literally melted into it? What would the reasoning be? All of those questions would affect what I think metaphysically could or would happen as far as the bond to it and the level of binding.

Ok I called my house today...after all it had been years since my mother and father told me about where the clock came from.

My mother was the daughter of an airforce man. The lived in several countries over the years. My grandfather got the clocks from Japan. The war clocks had the buttons of Japanese soilders who had died in battle actually tacked into them all the way around the back. (sorry guys, my mother corrected me last night)

My mother said she did not know the reason behind doing so but the family had three or four all together at the time. My mother having two of them. I know my grandmother has another. I have heard sotries of people hearing my granfathers voice from the one in my grandmother's house as well.

There is this necklace I found hidden away while I was helping my mother move fairly recently, last year or so. It's old. I know I've had it since I was a little girl. I do not remember where it came from. But there's something wrong with it, somehow. There hasn't been any supernatural happenings with it...but I made damn sure I didn't keep it.

It's this gold/brassy, large, round locket with an amber-colored jewel in the center. It's strange, whenever I think of it, or whenever I held it, I had this image of opening it and finding it filled with blood and hair. Fuckin creepy.

i do believe objects can be used as portals. if a spirit wants to attach itsef to something then why not? ive never really had an experience like that. the only thing of that sot is my grandfather just passed away not to long ago, my grandmother is from okinawa, and she believes in a different kind of afterlife. well anyway, she thinks she feels my grandfather around her all the time which is one thing, but one time i noticed a picture that has been in my grandmas house forever, slightly moving going crooked. no one was touching it at all and that picture has never moved since ive been born. it was taken in okinawa where my grandparents met of him and her, so i dont know. maybe the picture is his portal or maybe he's a ghost playing with things in the house, either way, i believe spirits live on.

many objects ahve connections to the spirit world. for good or ill. I have crystals that will warm when certian spirits are in my home. I have a bell that rings whenever someone I care about is very ill. I even removed the clapper of that bell and it did not stop the ringing. Its a bit creepy but helpful as well .. helps me know when to start calling everyone.

arunima

very often objects, trees, structures, buildings fields, forests ets serve as homes for ethereal beings, many of the empowerments of ritual objects/talismans/charms etc involve either the invocation and accomodation of a being that is concommitant to the desired aim of said object or the strengthening of a being already resident in the object, cleansings and banishings usually involve the evacuation or clearing of any being/energy form that may be already resident in an object through various means, depending on the nature of the object , desired resulot etc

very often cleansings involve a selective eviction

thus objects serve as physical devices through which energy forms/beings , that arent bound by laws of space time and causation may interact with the corporeal world in that sense they serve as portals, yet the concept of portal is a limited one, as it implies a here, a there and a skin in between, also it implies time and causation, that something causes phenomenon to occur, manifestation for example, beings and energy forms arent restricted by these concepts, these are ideas that we who are limited by space time and causation use to understand the universe, if we looked at the same thread without the notion of space time and causation, the picture changes considerably, and another world itself is revealed, another reality

every object, then becomes a portal, and thoughts, memories, emotionsand ideas are also objects, as are fictitious identities, this is the basis of the servitor , that chaos magic speaks of

that one may detach an aspect of ones personality/psyche/energystructure to create an independant being so to speak to serve a purpose/act as a portal/facilitate manifestation, and since this being is beyond space time and causation, one may exist through this servitor in both worlds being able to conducty commerce in both places

with respect to the earlier mentioned servitors, it can be even taken to the extent that every trace that we leave of ourselves, physical/emotional/mental/causal serves as a portal or pathway to us, that every impression of a being upon the environment is a channel back to that being, that through this trace, there is a channel of communication that may be forged between the being and the environment

certain factors affect the nature of the connection, the intensity of the trace, the intensity of the energy/emotion associated with the trace/being astrological factors etc a memory too is a portal, or may serve as one this speaks of the interconnectedness of everything inspite of ones desire to insulate

that one is affected by everything around one and by that token affects everything around one

whether one is aware or not, one is continually forming portals or lines of communications with all sorts of things, depending on ones intentions, states of mind, moods etc

the spirits occupying places, things or other's bodies are here to give a message, you have to listen to them, otherwise you end up the same as them, restless spirits. This is why they cannot move on to a better place. The supernatural is not to be feared. Nature is good right, and super nature is even better.

According to the wise J.K. Rowling, there are portkeys...

Anything else, I think is a matter of transcendtal channeling. Buddhists monks call it astral projection and use a focal point but needn't hold a talisman...

the mind is the greatest portal of all it can take you any where you wish to go.
I also beleve people that you meet are portals in which you yourself change even if it is the smallest of change . Which may make you not wish to move forward but avoiding these only puts the change off another day. Sometimes we need another day.

yes by definition human bodies are objects, but I think women are more of a portal than male beings. Men are men, we are stupid we don't change until we meet an amazing woman at the portal of her soul.

Crying Dutchess those concepts you just spoke of and strung together so flippantly, can you expand on that? I didn't know you were on that level. How do you know what you know?

There has been one room that every night at a certain time you could see thread like needles come from the floor to the ceiling and move all around the room. twas weird but so wasnt the house itself.

Yes I believe they can. If something is important to someone then they tend to leave an impression on it in the form of residual haunting, something that can not really interact with you but is always there and will appear at random. My brother has a picture of his baby sitting in front of a picture of her great grandmother. He took 2 photos one right after the other with only the winding of the camera inbetween, yet in the second photo, the picture had moved to the left and the face of the grandmother in the portrait could be seen in the second one.

another aspect of portals is that certain impressions, like writings , paintings and especially music can be gateways into worlds that have been created by the indiuvidual or ethreal beings, through these portals the more sensitive and astrally active among us may hook up into an aspect of reality an alternative existence so to speak beyond space time and causation where much can be learned, and understood, experiences the likes of which cannot be had by the body may be experienced

much of the drug related enlightenment doctrine is perhaps about this aspect of the human psyche, yet what drugs mostly do is break the bodys psychic defences, making the individual more sensitive to astral reality, yet this very same action renders the individual defenseless against many of the existent ethereal forces in the environment that those defences are there to safeguard the individual from

much can be learned from these worlds, knowledge, art, mathematics, magic, music, the possibilities are endless and infinite

it is about accessing the universes sonic bank , of everything that has been ever known and can be known

it renders most modes of learning and data retention redundant as, it allows for required knowledge/skill/ability on call, and the erasing of said knowledge/skill/ability as the work at hand is done, this allows for less material needing to be stored in conscious or working memory unlike with conventional methods where much of active memory is occupied by data that is redundant with respect to real time activity

to become astrally active , and proficient at it though takes practice and much discipline

and is tiring to the mind if indulged in too often without periods of rest from it
much of the activity occurs during sleep, as it is an extended period of undisturbed time, excessive astral activity means that the mind does not get as much rest as it requires via sleep

this is the portal of portals

The only simular experience I had was with my great grandmother's doll. She was 98 years old and had it since she was 22 which was a gift when she got married. She took amazing care of it, even to this day looks like it's brand new. Handcrafted and all. One night while I was staying at my grandmother's house who had it. I could hear movement in my great grandmother's room where she had stayed until she died. The doll was sitting at the head of the bed where my grandmother slept it, but when I got there it was on the floor facing the door sitting.

My grandmother told me simular stories after the next day I told her about it. I believe if one's energy comes emotionally attatched to the object it becomes apart of us in a big way overtime. Even a way for them to come through that object.

i dont know wat u mean by this but it sound itersting but i have had a prob with my tv when ever i wacth it it gets static and i cant see the picture but this is an old tv like with no color and it used to be my grandpa's tv when he was a boy im surpised it still works

I think the word "portal" is being used to loosely here. A portal would be considered as something in which travel is possible. I would view these objects as haunted. Or even as a spirit telephone, give or take.

So sister hood of the travelling pants could be haunted? Haunted jeans? Haunted denim butt portals?


Well the Grandfather TV portal, well the thing and the beauty about things built a long time ago is they built them better, and they stay around longer so they turn into talismans and talismans collect enrgy like the Sister hood of the traveling haunted azz, the more people wear them denim, the more soul in it or spirit possible.

Sorry for the bad metaphor. I am humorous today.

As stated by others 'portal' does suggest travelling from one place, or plane, to another. Many people say that objects have a distinct feeling about them. Whenever I buy anything second-hand I cleanse it before introducing it to my other possessions to ensure I'm not burdened by negative energies, which is always a possibility.

the energy doesnt always have to be negative when buying something 2nd hand, but it is always good to cleanse anything u use or have around you and to put your energy into it..

Here's a thought, how does one even know if there is another realm? There would have to be another realm in order for there to be a protal in the first place. How do we know there is another realm?

In that light, I apologize for my misunderstanding. And I thank VAMPARIAH for his humor on the subject as well. Although I am still slightly skeptical, those who clarified the intended meaning of the word 'portal' have enlightened me on the true nature of this thread

I am in awe of the different perspectives found here. My hope is that everyone that truly desires an answer reads each posting with an open mind, and allows anothers perspective to teach us.

Thank you for opening this discussion

i believe objects could be haunted but i have never seen it yet

I am currently learning the Wiccan way and have yet to master or understand all of the significance behind objects. Other than my familiars, I'm open to and studying how to use objects in my practice.

you can turn an object into anything I suppose..... or can you?

yes u can take a mirror and turn it into a portal for scrying or communicating

i truley think it can be done. just i cant do it.

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