They say that vampires can live forever. I'm not so sure that is true, but I do wonder about the possiblity of reincarnation of a *real* vampire.
What are your thoughts on this?
Rev. Ravyn
Hmmm, thats a double edged sword there Rev. lol.....I personally do not agree in reincarnation but oddly enough I think that a "real" vampire exists on some level. But I have to say no I think vampires live on eternally and not through reincarnation.
I disagree with the previous post.
In my current belief system, I feel that the prospect of a vampire, by the modern interpretation of them, living 'forever', is infeasible.
Perhaps they may be capable of a more efficient use of energy, or metabolising and maybe even having alternative cell growth patterns, but not being in one life forever. They would go insane, for one.
On the flip side, the prospect of reincarnation being a means to achieve a form of immortality, of the soul, the essential quality which makes up a person, seems far more appealing from a philosophical point of view.
Consider what happens to the soul after death. Does it simply dissipate, return to the 'one' that is God/Heaven?
Or, might there be a process by which the core energy patterns of an individual may be preserved, a way of thinking perhaps?
The Bhuddist believe in a theory of repeating concepts of thought, of consideration and of action. Some writings speak of retaining even the id in a womb-like shell of energy after death.
Some vampire groups have claimed that this idea can be refined, within a similar function, to allow for regressive memory inheritance, or past life recall, of an almost compete identification with themselves in another time.
So far, no-one has claimed to have lived for several hundred years, but many have stated that they are a reincarnation.
To live forever you would have to be genetically altered. That alone may not be enough. You could only live another 300 days before you would need more. And reincarnation is uncomprehensible. If you are dead you are dead, or in heaven.
It seems that I read somewhere in the Bible that man lived for quite a long time at one point. Maybe someone can confirm or debunk that? Don't recall exactly.
There was an old living man in the Bible called Methusela (sp?). He lived 969 years it says.
I'm sorry, I didn't answer that right.
According to Christian tradition, it is believed a man would live A LOT longer before the flood than after. They would live a couple hundred years. After the flood, God shortened their years.
The reason I asked this is that we are studying reincarnation in my wiccan studies course this week and I wonder how that works being as I am a vampire. I know I don't have immortality as me, but I wonder if immortality as a spirit exists. If so, in the next life will I be a vampire again? (Not expecting an answer to that one)
Just food for thought, I guess...
Rev. Ravyn
I don't think that a body can necessarily be immortal but I do believe that the soul is.
Fictional vampires are immortal, humans that follow the vampire lifestyle are mortal.
Nothing last forever. No mather if there is a word about vampires or reincarnation. At some point all credits are used and its "game over".
That could be many different answers. Personally if you are talking about the "hollywood" vampires then they live forever never to die and if they do then I would believe they would be reincarnated.
Anythings possible, just about. Not immortality but reincarnation I especially do think could exist. It's something that perhaps can't be so much as proven but does pose as a very interesting stream of thought to ponder. Surely as the human race as morphed and evolved throughout time, there's been some...recycling? Well I'd like to say, I do wish to believe in Life After Death...a favorite older song of mine from Toad The Wett Sprocket about reincarnation, is called "Begin", if you look up the lyrics to that song online, they are haunting and though provoking . The song give me chills, even to this day, when I hear it.
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Some cool quotes -
"I am confident that there truly is such a thing as living again, that the living spring from the dead, and that the souls of the dead are in existence."
- Socrates
2. "The soul comes from without into the human body, as into a temporary abode, and it goes out of it anew… it passes into other habitations, for the soul is immortal."
- Ralph Waldo Emerson
in the bible Adam ate from the Tree of Life until he was cast out. Eating from this tree "infected" his DNA. His off spring lived years. Methusala (Noah's father) lived 969. When he died the flood started.
The offspring had the genetics to live long lives.
All the way through Joseph (11 son of Jacob) who lived into his 100's... I took numerous generations to get the TREE OF LIFE out of mortals DNA....
As far as reincarnation, the Jewish religion belived that souls continued on. For example - Saul went to the wich of endor to sumon the spirit of Samuel. She did, and Sammy warned him of his death.
Also, Ezekiel was returned in spirit as John the Baptist. Does the spirit know of its former life - probably not - but the personality is there.
I do not believe vamps can live forever - unless they have become full fledged demons and have shed all human semblance.
reincarnation of the vampire spirit is more possible - but no real memory of the prior live will be there - maybe flashes, but that is all....
of course this is all just my OPINION...
Personnally, I have no clue about reincarnation. It may or may not be a posibility, but I have not been in a position to be convinced.
As for immortality, heck no. Only in the story books, and even then, the "imortal" vampires always seem to be killed off by the protaganist.
As for our long living friends in the religious texts, these long lived folks could be a result of a type-o, an analogy (6 days to create the world...), or just a story-tellers exageration for the sake of a good story.
Unless you have blind faith, then of course it's true!
well... the only faith is blind faith...
faith is being able to believe without physical proof.
this is true of religion and relationships.
I believe life forever is possible, with out going insane, if one is being exactly aware of how the things really are, and with understanding, understanding one self and the environment, with out any mistakes in conduct or perceptions, wich might create negative/destructive conditions in ones mind, wich might evolve in to a greater disscondition/missconception, making the preception/life unberable in a certain way, or exactly tending toward the self-destruction as the only way out, out of the self created problem, wich exactly reflects your perceptions toward your cells/phisical body, and destroys you eventualy, externally or internally, as the only logical way out of the now impossible to solve problem to ones mind, wich somehow runned out of the possibilities/combinations.
I do not see why the life forever should not be possible, if one has came to such a conclusion willingly and evolved the means to support its material idea, like the Himalayan Yogis, wich do live for several hundreds of years, by applying their yogic skill on the material body, indefinitely. But their purpouse is spiritual and they do not do it for a purpouse wich is discussed here. Not the purpouse of a real vampire wich desires life, and the power wich comes with the knowledge accumulated trough such a life. For what is a life with out knowledge/power? Nothing, a drag, suffering, it certainly makes you go insane, who wants to live forever as an incapable cripple? The non-aware ones?
I believe that such a knoweldgable powerful vampire really does not depend on the process of death, or reincarnation, wich is going back to heavens(or call it how ever you like, depends on your religious disposition), but such a powerful knowledgable creature as a real vampire is capable of containing it self, its energetical id, in the five elements, thinner or thicker part of them, wich is still the material world, and with that I do not see a need for the reincarnation process, but a simple change of form instantly, upon death, maybe a transformation in to a fog, or bats? After all, what is the difficulty in the mind of such a powerful creature as a real vampire, to use the five elements at its own will, at its own interpretation of ones idea with wich its own universal ego is reflecting in as such creature, since the long life term ability certainly leads toward the study of the environment and keeping one self in it in the most successful desired way.
I believe I have to agree more with pandorabx65 post, since I believe that a real vampire creature does not have any need for a drag like a reincarnational process, but is being eternally contained by its wishes in the material world, consuming the energies of the universe, for its own preservation of its own unique idea of life, wich are being consumed(energies) and reshaped in the nature of these five elements wich are surroundng us, forming the material idea/body wich is controlling the same elements to found it by vampires wishes/ideas. Therfore I believe eternal life is possible even in one same form, if one has the full knowledge of the five elements, and gained the control over them. I believe Real Vampires do not incarnate I believe it is a matter of transfer in case the body has been temporary destroyed, until the awareness of knowledge can form it again as desired. Probably on a certain check point as characteristical for vampires, there where astral and material are gently touching them selfes, so they can reform them selfes again.
I do think vampires can possibly live forever. Heck, I bet people can live forever if we weren't so narrow minded. I think some people have lived way past the age limit we have set.. which is a horrible thing to do.
I don't believe in the theory of reincarnation though. It is much too radical of a theory, to bring one back from the dead. It defies all logic and science in my opinion.
So, when it comes to vampires, I think they are immortal, not reincarnated.
I would not call the idea of a forever life infeasible, but rather very very practical, once the knowledge enough/maximum has been acuired in order to support such a idea of reflection of ones mind in to the material reallity. Everything is possible. The five elements have infinite combinations. It is a blessing to wield them at ones will, once learned. Everything becomes a game, so does the idea of the eternal life, in any idea of bodily or object representation, as well one of a vampire creature.
i believe that a soul can live on though i do not know what is fact. i believe this just to ease the pain of my lost relatives.
Some really good posts here I see and the one by Stabb666 is informational I must everyone to read that.
This what I have to say to reincarnation, it literally "to be made flesh again", and is a doctrine or metaphysical belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body.
This essential part is often referred to as the spirit or soul, the "higher" or "true" self, "divine spark", or "I".
According to such beliefs, a new personality is developed during each life in the physical world, but some part of the self remains constant throughout the successive lives.
Belief in reincarnation is an ancient phenomenon. This doctrine is a central tenet within the majority of Indian religious traditions, such as Hinduism (including Yoga, Vaishnavism, and Shaivism), Jainism, and Sikhism. The idea was also entertained by some Ancient Greek philosophers. Many modern Pagans also believe in reincarnation as do some
New Age movements, along with followers of Spiritism, practitioners of certain African traditions, and students of esoteric philosophies such as Kabbalah, Sufism and Gnostic and Esoteric Christianity.
The Buddhist concept of Rebirth although often referred to as reincarnation differs significantly from the Hindu-based traditions and New Age movements in that there is no "self" (or eternal soul) to reincarnate.
Immortality (or eternal life) is the concept of living in physical or spiritual form for an infinite length of time,[citation needed] or in a state of timelessness.[citation needed]
As to immortality it is the negation of mortality—not dying or not being subject to death—it has been a subject of the greatest fascination to mankind since at least the beginning of history.
The Epic of Gilgamesh, one of the first literary works, dating back at least to the 22nd century BC, is primarily a quest of a hero seeking to become immortal. What form an unending human life would take, or whether the soul exists and possesses immortality, has been a fundamental point of focus of philosophy and religion, as well as the subject of speculation, fantasy, and debate.
As of March 2008, human physical immortality is not known to be an achievable possibility.
Biological forms have inherent limitations in their design — for example, their fragility and slow adaptability to changing environments.
There are two men who have stated opinions to immortality.
1.Michael Shermer believes there is no significant scientific evidence for the proposed methods of achieving physical immortality, and says of them, "All have some basis in science, but none has achieved anything like scientific confirmation."
2.Jacques-Yves Cousteau, in the preface to his book The Ocean World, expressed his meditations on physical immortality, as a part of life and its adaptive processes: "Death is fundamental to evolution," and "evolution is fundamental to survival." Cousteau concludes that, biologically speaking, "immortality does not present a possible means to avoid death... Mortal or immortal, [an organism] must die."
A timeless existence is also not known for certain to be achievable, or even definable, despite millennia of arguments for eternity.
Wittgenstein, in a notably non-theological interpretation of eternal life, writes in the Tractatus that, "If we take eternity to mean not infinite temporal duration but timelessness, then eternal life belongs to those who live in the present."
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Thank you all for such a good discussion...
Any other ideas?
Rev. Ravyn
Have you had your answers meet to a sufficent amt. Ravyrn77?
These discussions always return to Soul, which overlays human ego, our own intense self-love and desire to continue what we consider to be our unique, enduring identity.
Why else work so hard to regress to past lives (as Stabb described)?
This is something I've been working out: Our futures (and our present) are intimately tied up with one another. The lessons are here, now. That energy, our specialness, is only ours for the moment. At our deaths, its transformed, no longer ME.
Perhaps it becomes another person's travail and joy, but for the purposes of this question, it no longer has a unique identity of self.
Our questions are ancient, and ritual and custom have developed in order to enhance the viability of self beyond the grave.
I do believe that what we do in this life has an effect on the world and future generations, but that effect is traceable as science and philosophy builds on what came before (not saying the effect is all positive).
If a vampire lives for ever then it only makes sense that they would not be reincarnated.
well... i could see the reincarnation aspect. it's not like it's completely out there to think so, but that's because i believe in demons when "killed" can be reincarnated. basically anything that has a soul can be reincarnated, which really doesn't leave anything out.
and about the bible reference about the guy living a long time... many actually lived for many many years. if you look in genesis it lists at least a few. but i would have to disagree with the idea that... and i might be wrong in how i read the original scripting of the statement... but it was not until after the flood that life spans started to decrease, it was actually due to the eating from the tree that did it... after the "fruit" was eaten the stain from the original sin was what basically gave humans their mortality
I would rather take reincarnation but I would like to know what happened in the past life. The past can sometimes help with the future.
I would get lonely if I could live forever....I might kill myself if I were to stay alive to live with certain pains.
Hmmm...I dont know lol. I would guess that they don't live through reincarnation. Immortality...dear god I hope not. But, if they could live through Reincarnation, I'd take that over immortality any day.
Someone said earlier in this thread that the body is not immortal but the soul is...I do agree with that.
For the sake of argument, there have been other threads where people questioned whether or not vampires have souls...So in that theory, I don't think they could be reincarnated.
However I only believe in the vampire lifestyle and feeding off of energy through blood or by other means...The concept of reincarnation does seem like it could apply to vampires as well.
I wonder if your karma would be different though, resulting in you coming back as something twisted or bizarre...Maybe it depends on what kind of vampire you are?
Ok I'm rambling...I hope this makes sense.
i belive that if a vampire bites you he give off some of him/her self and pass's it on to the next so in a way a vampire live for ever
theoretically a vampire may live on forever in spirit. but as of immortality or reincarnation its highly doubtful
As for me, I do not believe in the idea of immortality in any true bodily form. The body is going to wear out and the end of that is death. As for people having lived so long in the beginning of the bible days, is it possible that time was measured differently then than we do now? Because man, living almost a thousand years...... that idea is pretty intense to me.
well i belive we as beings or the life force that makes us who we are is imortal and to become 100% aware of youself is to be able to travel through time space keeping the memory of who you where previously . so why not a vampire to I would go for that.
after all everything comes from the same source what ever that is IMO
I don't believe that anything can be immortal. As for reincarnation, I'm still up in the air about it, but it does seem much more plausible than immortality.
I guess I will add to my previous post, it seemed as though I had forgotten something anyway. I do tend to lean more towards the idea of reincarnation. If we are all spiritual beings of what ever sort, then I believe that reincarnation is possible. Depending on one's personal beliefs, the spirit lives on even after death, so as far as I see it, having your spirit come back in a newly born body could be possible.
i belive in the reincarnation of a " vampiric soul, i know this goes against everything tought about a vampire ot having a soul. but i believe that everything on earth has a soul. so i believe that a vampire is immortal because its soul keeps being reborn
There is no difference between a so called normal human and a so called real vampire. vampirism is a subculture but they still is mortals.
I dont believe it is possible to do either, once your dead your dead. I think the whole concept was bought around by the fact that someone was believed to be dead but in fact wasnt so when they did finally awaken it was thought to be a merical and hence the concept was born.
As for immortal I think if I took a gun to anyone believing they are and pulled the trigger they would find that they be dead.
I think vampires live through Immortality, not reincarnation.
Immortality isn't that Hollywood? At least that is what I have been told. I just find it hard to believe, especially since you see threads from "Vampires" who state themselves that it is false. Reincarnation is something that has been said to have been done for many many years. Some say that it is the way they continue to live, some say it is to live until you get the life right. I don't know.
I do know that I have deja vu and i found on the internet that studies have been said that "Those believing in reincarnation theorize that déjà vu is caused by fragments of past-life memories being jarred to the surface of the mind by familiar surroundings or people."
Maybe this helps.
I believe the soul is the immortal part of us that is our continued existance. So to me we are all immortal in that sense.
I don't believe vampires are immortal physically. I don't believe anyone is immortal on a physical level just a spiritual one.
I think that immortality has nothing to with the body. It's the soul that lives on after the body dies. I really don't think that any physical body can live forever.
I am not sure about the immortality bit, but if i can believe in unicorns, i can believe in immortality as well. i personally believe that all souls are placed here on earth to learn and grow. whether it is as a cat, a human, a fly...etc, every life and its experiences enlighten us on the mysteries of life, the universe, the soul, etc..
reincarnation is more then likely nothing is immortal life spans may be longer but everything has to come to an end
Excellent informative posts here especially Stabb666 and Wolfkiller. I believe in the immortality of the soul as to reincarnation. Not immortality of the flesh.
Reincarnation is the form of immortality. We all live forever.
I don't see that it's even necessary to "believe" in reincarnation to answer this question as it was posed. "Real" vampires are subject to mortality. They are as human as anyone, perhaps with a few gifts/traits/choices that differ, but certainly human. As such, they would have identical access to reincarnation if it exists.
Only the fictional vampire would wrestle with this question.
The real question is, "does reincarnation exist?" but that was not the question posed in this thread.
I do not believe that *real* vampires - the ones you read about in folk lore and see in Hollywood actually exist. As I've said many times before, there are your modern vampires - sangs and psi vamps - but the characteristics of the two does not necessarily make them vampires.
Looking at immortality and reincarnation, in a sense reincarnation IS immortality(unless of course, you are Buddhist because once you reach Nirvana you no longer need to be reincarnated; other religions have similar beliefs). You as a person may not keep coming back, but your soul does until it has served it's purpose.
Real vampires I don't believe are immortal, maybe only through reincarnation but the hollywood type vamps sure are.
In my thought of this I believe that immortality is rather unreasonable.... like one stated above me.... a being would be driven to madness by grief and utter loneliness... I do however believe in reincarnation and I find it very possible that a "real" vampire could and would reincarnate..... in my ideas of this only the vampiric trait would be present throughout the lives of the soul rather than the memories and life experiances such as names and titles and such... I think that a "real" vampire would reincarnate in much the same way as any other soul
i dont think anyone can live forever,theyd probably lose their mind...but i do believe in people being reborn,and i think a *real* vampire is reborn,not immortal.
The physical body endures but a short time on this plane. It is a temporary shell that waxes in youth and wanes in old age. Such is true of all life forms, be they vampire or mortal.
Vampires are of the kind that may be born more than once. In truth, all beings may have this choice, but many turn from it in denial and their souls are dispersed into nothingness.
What is immortality? Many choose to see it as a return to this mortal plane, this land of nightmares and monsters time and again.
To me, immortality is borne when the need to return has ceased and instead the soul may learn to fly on its own wings without the aid of a physical vessel. To endure with the stars and to exist with the darkness of the cosmos ever expanding in space.
Can the vampire soul achieve immortality? Most certainly. When the soul reaches to the stars and becomes a god, it achieves immortality. I believe there might be one caveat; must the soul that is vampiric must return to self-sustaining?
i dont no any thing about reincarnation but would love to live for ever
I disagree. To live forever trapped in a mortal shell is to be forever trapped in this world. One is spurned and regarded as a bit of a freak, if one can live forever.
But if that is the wish, then so be it. Just be sure to remember to ask that you live forever in youth, rather than to grow old and then live forever.
my belif is this A vampire only live forever in the movies but a true Vampire only ages lower then humans do
Forever is a very long time and I dont really think anything can live forever.. Even the Sun that warms our planet has a half life that already known to man kind.
A possibility of a being that is able to reincarnate with all previous knowledge of the formore life I can agree with.
I personally believe in reincarnation. And imortality may be true also. My thoughts on vampires is that they are imortal. But I also believe that humans are reincarnated into other things. So a mortal could be reincarnated into a vampire... becoming imortal? That is the question I do not know.. Can anyone answer it?
Your average vr vampire is mortal and will die like any other human.
Fictional vampires are immortal if they avoid certain pitfalls according to the dictates set forth by the author.
In this context, it doesn't make sense for a fictional vampire to reincarnate in some poor hapless human's bod, unless this is an authorial device for explaining human blood drinkers.
Reincarnation makes no sense to me whatsoever, nor does an everlasting soul, nor does the description that we were put here for some purpose.
i think u can be reincarnated 2 be some kind of a living thing. just not an object. i belive a real vampire could live on 4 ever.
I don't believe in immortality.
I honestly believe that everything dies at some point in time. Though the idea of reincarnation still gets me...
I think that is could be both you have a body and soul for some time and then you get a new one later in time after your old body and soul finally find peace in the land of the dead
I believe in reincarnation but I do not believe a person can be reincarnate as a vampire.
EVER since the days of Eden, when our first parents were sentenced to death because of their transgression against divine law, men and women have been endeavoring to circumvent the reality of death. They have tried by devious and strange ways to convince themselves that death is not what it seems to be—not an enemy, as the Bible declares, but a friend which opens up new vistas of life in a world invisible to human eyes and, it is hoped, far superior to life experienced here as humans.
http://www.dawnbible.com/booklets/r_vs_r.htm
immortality could be a curse - knowing there is know end - especially if what you are in is not the most favorable of conditions.
at least with reincarnation - you get a new start
Suppose reincarnation can be like immortaility with the same soul being reborn through the ages; however, with no knowledge - at least on the conscious level - doesn't really seem like it. Can you imagine being recarnated say, once every couple of hundred years and to remember your past lives?
i think living forever sound alittle bit easer the being reborn and having to remember who you are from a past life for you may forget who you are and have to figure out what to do all over again.
I don't know how plausable that would be... for reincarnation you have to have a soul... However... if that is not part of your belife then yes it's possible for a vamp to be reincarnated... it's all about the learning... each time is the same with different surroundings and living situations... etc... it is in a sense immortality!
Exactly.. most of anything boils down to what you believe in and go from there.
Once we die, we'll get to figure out how much of our beliefs were right or wrong!
I can agree with gothicjoker. I know that vampires do exists. The spriit goes on, and the body dies just as a normal persons would. I also know a lot more, but if anyone wants to know what all I know they will have to message me and ask.
Reincarnation is the beginning of a new life- immortality implies a singular life never ends.
def double edge sword there. I dunno if I believe a vampire can live forever. I agree with the whole statement of vampires just age at a slower rate then normal people do.
im wiccan and a lycan, people say that we live forever too but ill know that one day ill die. i also beleive in reincarnation, so in a way i am immortal i just look different, whether or not you can have one without the other, i dont know im just a mortal i do not have these answers, does anyone?
Why not. reincarnation for vampires.. Sometimes its nice to start a new.
I don't believe Vampires can be reincarnated because they lose the soul the first time and that is the point of reincarnation the soul in a new body.
im sure perhaps a soul could live forever but a body i do do not believe anyone could actually live forever at all. but there are beliefs. and anything is possiable so what do i know.
As we know, reality means no immortality per se, as one person/body living forever or for several centuries.
matter can not be created or destroyed, as the well educated of us know.. all life is matter.. our bodies may die, but our spirit/soul is still living, and we will adapt new bodies through reincarnation
That is true and close to what I had mentioned.
Except reincarnation in the literal sense is not immortality. Lagniappe stated the obvious: immortality is living in the body born and living 'forever' whereas reincarnation is the soul continuing on in various bodies and different eras in time. They are not the same thing.
I saw it mentioned earlier that there were people in the Bible who lived a long time. I was raised Christian and went to a Christian school, and ues, in the old testament people did live a lot longer. Especially those God needed to live a long time to get done what he needed of them. That, however, did not last forever. Immortality does not exist for humans. In movies, it does for vampires. I don't know if that is reality though. As for a vampire being reincarnated, I don't know. I've never heard of it. I don't believe in reincarnation myself, but I suppose it may be possible. It also seems like if there were immortals living among us, we would notice. Wouldn't you notice seeing the same person over and over if they weren't aging. If a vampire were truely immortal they would have to stay away from humans. Otherwise they would be made into experiments. Just my thought on it.
I belive in immortllity more than I do in recarnation however i agee with some others and believe it would be easier to llive forever than to always have to remember who you are from the past
If one becomes a vampire and then dies, perhaps they do have the chance for reincarnation or it is the 'final death' that is used in fiction.
As this is all peoples' own thoughts and theories, why not whatever you would like it to be.
as i don't believe in vampires i'd have to say this is false.
however, if someone follows the vampiric lifestyle, it is still based on their religious views
I highly agree with a few of your statements--- That a soul is immortal whilst the body is not. I have unexplainable memories that are from different time eras and different places where I have never been. I beleive that your body lives and dies with the natural progresion of the times but your soul is moved to different shell with each and every life leaving bits and peices of the past that you have experienced.
'Real' vampires exist not. But those who follow the vampiric life-style, and if they believe in it, can be re-incarnated.
i agree with genesis on immortality... we dont liv forever in one body but rather when we die our soul moves onto another physical body...
DarkHunter -
So our soul never gets rest in the after life?
i myself do not believe in reincarnation but immortality is very real in my beleafs.
What kind of immortality? As there are a few different kinds.
Immortality the true living forever why would you really want to due that It would be very lonely unless everyone you cared about also lived forever.
I believe 100% in reincarnation. I believe that there are only so many souls made and that we are simply recycled. We can see from things as simple as the atom to the overall of the human body that the cosmos is very efficient, so is it so far fetched to believe that souls are recycled?
I can say that I would believe that. The vampiric spirit going on from one to another thru reincarnation.
As it is known, Vampires are already dead and immortal so they can not be Reincarnated