While sitting in the Doctor's office with my children today, my daughter about fell out of her seat when she was reading her book. The book she is currently reading is called "The new Encyclopedia of the Cat" by Dr. Bruce Fogle DVM.
Why would she get so excited you might ask.. and I did.. was because she found the following passage in her book.. and it sparked off a two hour conversation amongst her and others in the office.
Metamorphic Cats, pg. 33 second paragraph.
"In Japanese folklore, the shapeshiting cat is of a more sinister nature. In a tale similar to the Western Vampire myths, a demon cat attacks a fair maiden and sucks out her lifeglood. It then assumes her identity. In its new female form, the cat turns its attentions to the maiden's lover, Prince Nabeshima. By gradualy extracting his life force, during nightly visits, the vampire cat weakens the prince to the point of death. He is saved just in time through the vigilance of his faithful servany, and the impostor is eventualy destroyed.
A similar fable comes from Spanish-Jewish folklore.
Lilith, Adam's first wife, leaves him to become a vampire in form of a black cat, who then descends upon the helpless, sleeping babies and sucks out their blood. This story may have contributed to the widespread belief that a cat may lie on a sleeping baby, causing suffocation."
Told her I would post it for all to read and she has said " I hope that everyone at Vampire Rave enjoys this little bit of information."
So in essence I am posting for her as she is not old enough to be on this site yet.
was reading this and was going to bring up the lilith myth. Thank you for adding that part of it.. It is anient japanese folklore.. I love reading ab out diffrent cultural myths..but the lilith myth is referenced by all cultures to different degrees
that is very interesting. Thanks to you and your daughter
good story :) what i heared about cats is that they lay on the chest of the sleeper and steal his soul/breath through the mouth.
Nice reading ^^. I liked the black cat part XD
And i Love Lucidream and hugz him everyday until he diez of suffocation! WIE! ARGH!
it reminds me of this movie that had a series of small movies within in..and all 3 had to do with the travel of a cat who was looking for what had killed her previous owner...
a lil monster that came out of the wall and sucked the breath out of sleeping children
i love cats lol and yes i didn't know that information very cool
I am pleased with the information you have displayed before us. Especially when it concerns japanese folklore...Thank you
he he kitty drinks blood...
sound familar to me..hmmmm yup
Geist,
In my household we value many things, and one of those things is the Japanese culture. So it was very cool for this passage to be found and brought to my attention.
I try to encourage my children to learn new things and to look at them through a differnet light.. To do the research and understand.
So far it is working out well.
that's so cool! when i read the title of this thread i was a little skeptical, but i feel enlightened lol. thank you!
Aw, that's so neat. :) I'm glad she takes a liking to us so much. :D
The strange thing is this.... since the myth appears in all those different cultures waaaaay back before travel was good and telephone lines existed, couldn't it be true to some extent?? Like dragons for example... Every culture thousands of years ago spoke of them almost identically.... Surely there must've been something similar to whatthey desribed out there.
very intresting, say thank you to your daughter for me.
Very interesting reading. Thanks for sharing, it makes you really wonder about things. :)
Thank you to both you and your daughter for posting this! I know the saying is overused - "You learn something new everyday" - but I didn't know about this, so it was cool to learn something new and interesting all at the same time! :-)
Hmm...very interesting..thanks for sharing with all of us!
That certainly caught my mind off guard! WOW! thank you for sharing that! i am honestly bemused!
here kitty kitty kitty..giggles
aye i seen other moives of it to...long ago..not sure on there names and all
very interisting thx for the storie i am going to look in to this
Thank you very much for that .. ALthough ther is an actual movie that is very similar to what you were describing .. l forget the name of the movie but what l can remember of it was that it had demon cats who could transform from human to a human cat like creature .
It was a very interesting movie .. if l find the name out l will let you know.
Yes I've heard of the one about Lilith. But not the one about the cat. I am very happy that you told us about this. This will help me in my research. I thank you again.
~Master Damien~
many years ago visiting my sister i stayed over her place for the night and being summer i left the back door open,while i was sleeping i found i was finding it hard to breathe,i opened my eyes and there was a siamese cat that had walked into the house and sat on my chest and was staring directly at me i freaked and yelled out the f word,then it jumped off an ran out of the house.
Tell your daughter we thank her very much!
Cat's Eye with a young Drew Barrymore in that one part with the cat.
Interesting that different cultures have had that myth about cats stealing breath from babies.
OOOooooOoOo!!! loved reading this!!! recently i discovered something unusual about my black cat, while giving him a routine checkup and seeing if his gums were ok, i noticed that instead of two upper canines (one on each side) , he has a total of four. and at times i will wake up at night to find him curled around my neck actually licking it and nipping my skin. just thought i would share this with ya'll. oh and his pictures are in my portfolio if interested.
it kind of reminds me a little bit of steven kings sleepwalkers. but hey it was still a good read
I guess in every culture is a vampyr.
Thanks for this information.
also even in Japan
well, i guess thats a part of the myth that has been turned around, very informative, ill be sure to hide my cat from my next generation
I have a cat, and always had cats around me, love them and everything about Japanese culture thank you very much
Thankyou for posting that, I loved the entry. I agree with you on the idea of the cat superstition with babies, though I think our cat just enjoys sleeping on our pillows and putting her tail on my nose because she knows I will wake up all stuffed and sneezing
when a cat rubs its tail on your face its to claim you. youve been pwnd.
also when they do a happy kitty dance on you theyre marking their territory. same with when they run their face on you. you see cats have scent glands in their paws and cheeks. male cats have extra glands in their urine tract that they catch on their tail when they spray and they know it so they rub their tail on you to claim you as their own.
Well that was quite....different. Thanks for the good read and thank your daughter for me. I've not quite heard of this just yet....and yes...this does remind me of the lilith myth...hmm..
very inertesting , and yes it does remind me of the movie cats eye.. in a ways...
Meow , gotta love a cat.... that was interesting . I loved it.Many Thanks to your daughter...
Interesting.
Ive learned something new about Japanese culture, but also another tidbit about Lilith.
Who is also considered queen of the fairies.
Interfesting i must say..your daughter must be interested in Vampires too..^W^
Very interesting Read funny while reading this Post my own cat rubs up against me i about jumped out of my seat and looked at Her twice especially since i thought she was outside lmaooo to funny..Tell Your daughter thankyou for this info i again learned something new!
Very interesting.
I'm from Portugal, and remember my grandmother telling me that cats shouldn't sleep with children because they would suck the air out of the child.
Your daughter had a very good idea, Thanks
nifty indeed. i may just add this bit of lore to the story i am writing bit by bit. you can see what i have so far in my journal.
This is interesting!! Thanks to you and your daughter!!
now this reminds me of another movie >.>. It's this lady and she has a son in this movie and both of them can turn into some devilish looking cats >.>. and they get killed by cats
ANYWAY! thing is they are hiding in humans body and can show there true kitty side. meh something like it?
Yours Truely Drachen
Drachen, that movie is called Sleepwalkers, and it's based on a book by *bows* Stephen King.
Thank you for this.
I have been looking for a book like this.
Where did she get the book?
Yeah >.> thanks TearsOfArakiel thats the name >.> but ya they were cats so i thought maybe its something like that? but wel ya the could show the kitty side not just be humans 24.7 and they did take the souls of the people and stuff so its somewhat the same :-D
Yours Truely Drachen
Again, an ancient legend may be used to explain why so many people dislike cats(Not Me).
Very interesting young minds these days are amazing tell your girl thanks :)
I`ve heard of Japanese Vampire Cat, but didn`t know the exact facts. Very interesting information! Thanks!
I am very much into the Japanses culture and had heard of the Vampire cat. My own experience has been the opposit though. I had a sisamise cat for many years growing up and she was more my protector than plotting against me:) The house I grew up in seemed to have an uneasy spirit in the downstairs part of the house, of course, where my room was. She was right by my side everynight as if watch or waiting for something.
I have to agree I have been around them for many years since childhood and they loved me... I have never even been scratched.
rumor has it that they also have more then one tail and can animate the dead..
I loved reading about this! I always wondered why they said that.
it is very intresting this cat.i would like to know more about the subject
so the cat becomes a type of succubus or incubus thing.... right?
Very interesting.........my cats are not that evil..............I think
Wow.. This is a very interesting Conversation appearently. Shapeshifting cats.. Who would have thought?
*quickly jots down the name of the book* ok tomarrow i go to the book store thanks
That's so intriguing..
Thankyou to you and your daughter..
yes Very interesting and I remember that movie that they were talking about too.. when I was a kid I watched it lol.. and before I was ehemm enlightened to the better half of life It frightened the skivers out of me .. lol.. would love to see it again.. does anyone remember the name of it ??? please pm me if you do.. thanks
I'm the cat piper in my house.....my cats follow me around......its funny to me
Wow , that was very interesting to read. I have heard of that before but never had the chance to read it. Thank you so much for shareing that with us, and thank your daughter for getting so excited about it to draw your attention to it.
I've heard of the sitting of the chest of the sleeper bit and taking the breath away, but this is something new, thanks for posting it
INteresting MYth....
I love any kind of folklore surrounding Cats... you never hear this stuff about dogs. wolves maybe, but cats. No.
this was a very interesting artical. thank you...and your daughter
A very interesting read. I must say that my couriousity is aroused because of it.
Interesting, thanks for posting. I had heard of the japanese tail but had always wondered about the cat with babies story...
Thanks to you Silverbow and to your daughter for sharing the japenese and Lilith mythologies, I've heard similar before. My cat is 21+yrs old and she's always been a guardian to my kids. I f i was downstairs doing laundry and the baby would wake in the crib, she'd come down and yowl at me to go "fix it" until I went upstairs and took care of the baby. She also now babysits my Mom and will come get me if somethings not right with Moms oxygen. So demons or angels or a lil bit of both wonder now as your cat "meows".
wow that was really interesting tell your daughter thanks for that!
this is a very engrossing thread! Can't....stop.....reading....... ;)
Your daughter sounds to be quite an intelligent young woman for such heavy reading. Wonderful to hear - I'm sick of children sitting in front of televisions.
Thank her for this tidbit, and thank you for taking the time to put it here, thereby encouraging your daughter's curious nature.
very interesting didnt know about the shapeshifting cat yet.. im glad i learned something knew.
btw thx for remembering me the name of lilith.. i totally forgot it
Yes indeed...very interesting...always up for learning new things...
Very interesting information here. But what worries me is that you were in the doctor's office for two hours...
And they make us pay through the nose...
Something is not right about that....
very interesting... my dad has for cats, and jackies cat is always trieing to bite someone.... i wonder...