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MASTERofMIDNIGHT
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I would like to know what anyone knows about shapeshifting. I have never had the chance to talk to anyone who can supposedly do it. I am very interested in this subject!!



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I've never heard of anyone actually being able to do it, but shape shifting is quite prominant throughout Mohawk and Irish folk lore. Those who could do it were typically the priests of the tribes.



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Shapeshifting is more about changing your consciousness to the point of taking on the attributes that you perceive in the creature of your choice rather than any true physical change. There are spells you can use to acquire this.



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As far as I know, true shapeshifting is basically astral projection, only you travel in a different spiritual form. I think this is the most common form of shifting.



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Here is a site for shapeshifting spells

http://www.shapeshiftingspells.com/

Of course you would have to believe in that sort of thing which I don't personally but to each their own.



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Native American Shamons were able to shapeshift in certain aspects.Not like in the movies but they could do it in sweat lodges,in vision quests.



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I dont really think shapeshifting as far as going from man to wolf is possible. There can , on the other hand, be severe energy fluctuations, major aura changes. So not as much a physical change but a mental and spiritual change.

Although i would love to just say "hey whats up guys" then change to a wolf and bite their faces off... ya :-)



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the cloest thing to shape shifting that i know of would be someting like freezing water to make ice or boiling it to make steam



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Native American shamans as well as other Shamans from other cultures can and do shapeshifting as common practice.
Myself included.
And your right you can turn into an actual physical Wolf. Though I agree that would be cool!



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As I understand it, and as others have stated, shapeshifting implies an astral change, as in those who projected with the shaman, etc. would see his/her astral body as a wolf, bird, whatever, while their physical body would remain the same.

Wow, I'm not wording things very well today...



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It's a bold statement, but I'll go ahead and just say it. Physical shapeshifting is impossible. Astral shapeshifting is entirely possible, and was and is commonplace for many people worldwide.



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i heard drucula can shapeshift into a bat wolf or fog



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I think the idea of shape shifting is more from the movies than actuality. I believe in the possibility of psychic shape shifting rather than the body actually changing shape.Thats just too Hollywood to me.



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I have never heard of anyone being able to do that, other than in visions or astral travel



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I personally don’t believe that shape shifting is possible. I think that it makes for good stories but that is about it. I think that the day I talk to someone that can shape shift will probably be the same day that I am turned into a vampire. Just good fantasy.



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yes it is possible.
As lamuerte66 said in astral form, your body doesn't change, your spirit does while in another dimension.
It is and has been proved through Shamanic Studies........
heck! I know people who practice Wicca, who can do this. Also Santeria and Voodun/Voodoo ETC...
just because you havent done it or tried and failed, doesnt mean it isnt real.



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Tribes long ago though they could shape-shift..but it was the drugs talkin'.
Made them see things..and feel as if they were an animal.lol.
I suppost its possible to change your
spirit or energy form into any shape.
But your body is your body..no shape can take place..unless it due to a extreem
crazey plastic surgen..or some kind of horrible bone deformality.



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Your right, they would smoke the ganja and put themselves in a 'dream', or what we like to call it 'trippin balls'. They also claimed that they had prophecies and the like



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It would be fantastic if one could do it physically. But I believe it is done within the mind. Shifting your inner being. A dream state. But heck what do I know and anything is possible!



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I believe this is a myth and that noone can actually shapeshift



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I agree, like a mental shift in being. A primal rage. Maybe even something like taking a douleshot of starbucks espresso...spiritually.



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Thank you all for your imput on this subject!!!


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Not to be the aggessive one in this thread, but if you really think you can physically shapeshift, then you are completely mental.



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I don't believe one can in "fact" shape shift, but can believe it can be done spiritually or psychically.



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I think the mind is truely an incredible thing and the phrase 'mind over matter' is completely true. I think that if someone truely believes they can shift their shape, maybe not 100% but they can take on characteristics of another creature. If people can, by sheer thought alone, accomplish amazing feats of strength, why not this as well?



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I have done when I am dream walking but I don't think it can be done in real life.



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Of corse theres no proof! Because those that have an inch of self respect is not going to go public in his/her fur!
But I know Therians that can shift, few Lycans too. They all stick to privicy, and silence.



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I am of the mind over matter school on shape shifting, It all has to do with pure will, and complete control of ones vessel. Both things are in short supply today. It can be done I am sure.



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I'm afraid shapeshifting is for movies other than what's been mentioned about shamans and astral travel. It is possible to transform at the mental level. But physical change really is out of the question. Shapeshifting at the astral level is possible. And that is fun. Taking those qualities over to waking life is also possible. Attributes of your desired form definitely is a plus in physical life. The fierceness of a lion, the cunning of a wolf, etc.

Another thing I thought I would mention: it is possible that some are born with physical traits that resemble animals.

But transforming at will is a bit of a stretch.



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shapshifting is a possabilty as is anything with the right no how. many ledgens start with fact for the most part it is just warped fact. look at the warwolf to simply explane it so people who dont belive and think that there is a med explantinion for all of it rabis get bit by a rabbit wolf cutract it pass it on to who ever they attack. where the hair come in i dont know maybe a blood disorder or something



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but as for physical yes it can happen and dose but to see you must belive cause in the spirital world beliveing is seeing. shaman do it to show strenth in all culters there are storys of one thing taking the shape of another so there has to be something there beside falseatys



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Or maybe it has nothing to do with belief..ever notice how things can change shape when certain sounds are introduced?



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I think shapeshifting takes place in the mind, with the body taking on some aspects such as the walk, the howl, the eye movement. By placing the skin of the animal you wish to become over your body it adds more of the animals magick, and amplifies the effect. However a physical change, "Werewolf of London" style, would be more than the limits of our anatomy and physiology could tolerate.



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I have never actually seen someone shapeshift, nor have I ever heard that there is real evidence of it. It happens in books and in a lot of folk lore though. If I ever see it happen I'll let you know. I have trouble believing it without solid proof though.



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That would be a great ability. I'd love to have it. Would also be a great learning experience in which it learn other's prospectives in their lives.



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All things are possible, even things beyond the scope of the human mind, are still in fact possible, we just have not mentally concieved of them yet. I am so thankful, everday, for the vast complexities in this world, and the next.



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I dont think it is possible in a corporeal form, but rather you can "shift" your consciousness or manipulate your soul.



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Question..Do shapeshifters chant or anything of that nature when they do it?
You know,sound can change the physical,as clearly prooven in liquids and other things.
I know you guys might be getting tired of this whole sound thing Im on,but as I stated several times before,I am finding it applicable every one of these so called paranormal activities,and I dont know about you,but I think theres something to it.



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My cousin, while in South America swears he saw a Shaman turn into a python. Personally I always suspected he was a little crazy. You can tell he belives it. Got a hold of some good LSD perhaps. It's far fetched, right up there with Superman, the fantastic 4, etc.



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You know,when I woke up three days ago,I would have said the same thing,that it has to be impossible.But after what I have found,and what Im finding? I'll be damn if it couldnt actually be a real possibility.
And I am not talking in the mind or spirit or whatever either.I mean in body...now I know Ive gone nuts )_o
I must continue my work tho to see.



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I would have to agree with what has already been said, and the links to astral travels and dream quests. Any talk of shapeshifting that I have encountered over the years has come from friends of mine in different tribes.



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And they chanted ? Did you see them change?



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I dont think that anyone can change thier shapes. It seems to impossible



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To my knowledge, most shaman rituals for shapeshifting also include the use of hallucinagenics during the ritual. That's not to preclude the possibility of such a metaphysical transformation but obviously, if you're under the influence of something as strong as peyote buttons or salvia divinorum, it may be difficult to separate the real from the unreal...the magic from the hallucination.



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darkwolf said it best

old native American shamans would do ritual's known as a form of rite of passage from one shaman to another in which the individual experienced a oneness with nature,I believe the Navajo.Actually kept records of their enlightenment into shaman ism.usually incorporated by skinning an animal wiping its blood on your body and wearing its skin. and asking the animal to forgive and thank him for his tribute.



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Yes I know about stories from family about the indians and how things worked with that. I also have enjoyed many chemically induced situations on my own, But that is not exactly what I was looking for here. I was more meaning through whatever means be it magic or whatever you would call it, Physically transforming ones body from human form to something like say a wolf or a bear or even a snake. But I do thank everyone for your input and stories!!!


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I believe they possibly could manage to do it with sound.If anything.Whether one chooses to call it magic of whatever.Now,how their bodies could withstand it,well,theres alot stacked against them,but sound can and does make things change form.
Just food for thought.



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im with shadowdemon on this i dont beleive shapeshifting is physically possible



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i dont think its physically possible but maybe mentally



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I don't know much about it.



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I do not believe anyone is capable of shapeshifting



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I don't believe it is possible.



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I don't think anyone has the ability to shape shift



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Not even vampy's?



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i have read in the book called the vampire universe that there is a person call the wolf man. the man turn in to a wolf so basicly is a half man half after he shapeshift.



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it were a vampire can change into a bat at will.



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To shapeshift wouldn't it be technically impossible because of the person/things bone structure??



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Well it has been that devil himself can come to you in many different forms and you wouldn't even know it was him.



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Really? That reminds me of Zeus XP



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in many older and more ancient cultures it is said that shape shifting is when the person has invoked the spirit of the animal or of anything they choose.when they invoke the spirit into their body the animal commonly takes over the body



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i personally have never seen a shapeshiftter



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I really wish I could shapeshift. That would be cool.



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I think that shape shifting is possible, I mean how do we know that every animal we see isn't another being shifting into that shape? And on that note, maybe it isn't reversible?



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I can see it being possible insofar as to be able to either astrally project yourself as another creature or alter your state of conscious and take on the characteristics of another creature, maybe even stoop your body to be able to walk like that creature, but for an actual human being to turn into an actual wolf or whatever...no. I don't think so.



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I do not know much about this subject... other than the hollywood bull. But it has been an interesting read in here.



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Native American Shamons would skin animals and walk as the animal not sure if they became them are what there are old storys about it.




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shapeshifting astral projectionwise can be totally accomplished as well as physically

ask our california board of comsetic surgeons.

experts of shapeshifting bl0kes in LA



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the only reference i have, is of the native american experiences of wearing an animal skin and going into a trance while dancing, thus blending themselves with the essence of the animal.

but this is all i know, i'd love to learn more about the human side of it.



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i remember back in the 80s there was this show called MANIMAL i as a kid thought it kicked ass... but the main bloke shapeshifted to a panther and some other animal i think an eagle

oit was cool
i didnt understand the concept back then but i wish i can find the show to watch all over

the show didnt make a whole season i think



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I think if people really could shapeshift we would have solid proof by now



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I think it is a really interesting subject but to actually visually see it done i havent but i would certainly love to



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Shape shifting is the ability to morph your body into that of another form. It is most doable by anyone who has left all material thoughts and thoughts of sexuality behind. The mind must be pure and unfettered by worldly thoughts. Not an easy task for most.



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the only thing i have been able to shapeshift into is the shadows and one day it just happened



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the only thing i have been able to shapeshift into is the shadows and one day it just happened



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I know the spell to shift into a wolf. I would like to be able to do more..



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Ok to put some sence into this issue.
doppelgangers are the ones who can shapeshift but they are fantasy creatures.
indians like myself who have studied under his grandfather who by many generations have studied by a shaman named Sitting Bull.
my great 5x grandfather now let me tell you something about our so called shapeshifting.
"buzzer sounds" WRONG we dont shapeshift no indian does its called conjuration of dead animal spirits.
here we find what type of animal name we are to be given by our chief and fore fathers.
we dont shapeshift wrong idea to many drugs.
However we do have to do a certain drug to do this however its called peyote which comes from a cactus.
but as it would be im not downing anything of this forum just giving the facts so enjoy it its a little info i think everyone needs to know peace



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Yeah as many people have said, I think it's probably a psychological thing as so much magic generally is. Not a physical change, despite how cool that might be, it's most likely completely impossible, on this plane of exsistance atleast :p



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Astral projection and a state of mind is what shapeshifting is all about in this world and not of fiction. In this state, can actually soar as an eagle and run like a deer...from what people have told me, it's an amazing experience.



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i must say its all mental. a complete pschical change that wont happen it cant



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Native American were able to shapeshift in certain aspects.Not like in the movies but they could do it in sweat lodges and in vision quests

They often turned them self in to wolves and such accourding to written documents



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I have never talked to anyone that could actually do it.



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same ..its just a whisper of a dream to do it



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I dont' think its really possible for someone to shapeshift. Afterall we are fragile creatures our bones aren't meant to be bent..they wouldn't be bones then are they?



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i've deen it done by an old blackfoot shamen i did not blive it untell i saw it



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Know a bit about Native American rites and beliefs and Pagan but I have never seen anyone change or met anyone willing to prove they could.



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15:13:10 Mar 20 2008
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Can a angel of death be classed as a shapeshifter



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I have to agree - I don't believe in physical shapeshifting (mainly because I have never seen one do it) . However, it is possible to astral project into other living things.



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Its just fiction. No one can do that really.



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never heard or seen someone that could really shape shift
all just myths i thing



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I don't think you can fully shift.



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22:36:19 Mar 20 2008
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can anyone shapeshift



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03:03:36 Mar 22 2008
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don't know anyone who could or dose



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22:38:19 Mar 26 2008
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Shapeshifting.. now that's talent. That's something deep.

If anyone can really shapeshift, I'll pay a lot of money if they let me visit them. =)



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Its more of a out of body experience then an actual shift per say.

You can focus on an animal, such as a wolf meditate into a trace and become one with its form, travel with it see and eat as it does. ECT.



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i have never heard of anyone accualt shapeshifting either



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Never heard of anyone actually shapeshiffting, but I still think it would be cool none the less.



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17:15:06 Apr 05 2008
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yes ireally haven't heard or seen anybody that could shapeshift... it would be such a wonderful thing to be reality



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I Have Never Heard Of Have Known Anyone Who Can shapeshit, But I Would Find It Interesting To Talk to Someone Who Has Had A Similar Experience To It.



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I have never heard of any recordede people being able to shape shift. But I have heard of people claiming to be able too, but never seen it done for myself.



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Well since I am of avarage intelligence I believe that anything is truly possible and thatsome where there actually could be shapeshifters.



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