Im a absinth maker and drinker, I make mine from wormwood mixed with super strong rum over a month then separated from the herbs… taste like ass lol
And yes over 4 oz per person makes you see green fairies
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in view of the question of absinth and it’s connection with vampire goes in the same vain as garlic n crosses all believed to be linked with vampire… go a to a Goth/ vamp club and see how many drink absinth… look at all the films that show it….
As you see lots of famous people… my question is this…
Why and when did it become a vampire associated drink and why?
It may be associated with the drink of the angels, this glowing yellowish drink having the appearance of absinthe, is noted to be the drink of the ages.
As vampires are claimed to be decendants of the angelic race, most commonly refered to as the Nephilim, these beings having been ethereal, now in humanoid form, love to mix their drinks...A good look at this so called drink would be in the movie Neverwhere...The drink is shared by an angel by the name of Islington.
I have only ever seen green absinthe, and it is delicious served over ice frappe. I had no idea it was related to anything vampire however! Eer, thanks for the lesson :) Hmmm green fairies 'tho..now thats a different thing altogether ;)
I don't believe it's connected to vampires, as such. It is connected to the youth subculture of the time, whether that be the bohemians of the turn of the previous century or the goths of today. Absinthe was used in the film Bram Stoker's Dracula to to evoke decadence and a mind altering experience within the acceptable limits of the time (as opposed to say, going to an opium den).
I personal love absinthe, As for how , why and when .. I think that came from Hollywood as it looks good on film and the fact that it was banned for so long and there for forbidon. That alone makes it all the more alluring and usefull in tails that are also of the forbidon such as Vampires
I have never had real absinthe. I thought it was outlawed here. Perhaps I am mistaken though.
well sort of.. You can only buy it over seas, but you can bring it back in to the USA or have it shipped here for personal use only.. you are still not able to sell it to the public here is that makes any senses.
Must admit I have tried the drink, not had the green fairy effect, but then over here a place needs a special liscence to see it and can only sell you three shots at the most.
Ummm tricky to place my input here but Absinth rules, but when first introduced to it it was with "normal" friends, none gothic.
I have never heard of absinthe actually being linked with vampires as another suggested I think it is due ti the fact that it is forbidden in most places and therefore carries an aura of mystery. I have never tried it personally but would welcome the opportunity if it ever came my way.
The only time I have ever associated absinthe is when Gary Oldman playing Dracula in the Francis Ford Coppola film and he ended up serving it to Mina with sugar.
only reason way i've heard of it being linked was in the recent Van Helsing movie... and that's not much in the way of a link, more of an observation.
I have tasted it once and erm...But I enjoyed it, anyways my response is..I havent heard it being associated with vampires but with Dark or Black Magic...Like Voodoo or Hoodoo however it is said..I know of One who uses this in His rituals and masses...Never knew vampires...
This is the first time I ever heard it linked with vampires... the only thing I could think of is possibly since it's old and maybe authors decided to use it in books to associate it with them and it took a cooralation with them.
So if you see green faries when you drink too much what would a century old long fanged vamp see?
Multiple authors,poets,and artist used wormwood and it was everything in society circles to be in you had to be about the 'green fairy potion".Never heard it related to vampires but I am sure Bram S. partook.
i think i can explain it. i like to drink absinthe, so as my creations are a reflection of myself, the vampires in my stories tend to drink absinthe. it has always been favoured by artists, poets, and romantic novelists, and they like to make their vampires move in the same circles, inhabit the same world, and indulge in the same pleasures.
besides, it somehow wouldn't seem right for a sophisticated velvet gowned lord of the night to sit at the bar swigging a bottle of newcastle brown ale. (though i do know a few goths and vampires that are quite partial to a bottle of newkie')
My first encounter with vampires and absinthe was in An Interview with the Vampire. I didn't really think there was relevance between the two but now that you've mentioned it... If I had to give a reason, perhaps it is because vampires are now being portrayed as sensual beings, hungry for new experience and truth; and most of the time with existentialist tendencies, unlike the savage and gruesome beasts that they were painted as, in the past. And of absinthe (from reading the link you supplied), I quote Oscar Wilde, "The first stage is like ordinary drinking, the second when you begin to see monstrous and cruel things, but if you can persevere you will enter in upon the third stage where you see things that you want to see."
Update on the legalities of absinthe...It is now legal in the US. Though I have no idea when the veto was thrown out.
I have never heard about this either, great converstaion piece. I would think that since Absinthe is basically fuel it can be like a potion to some. Giving them the energy and motivation to strive in their lifestyle.
Please can you give me the recipe and the method for making this?
I have never heard of it being linked to Vamps, but it definitely something I will read more to find out.
I too would love the recipe. I would be willing to swap a kick butt Mead recipe for it.
Valkerie
Absinthe flavored vanity water, anyone? A recipe would be great, preferably not the ass-flavored one.
the taste of wormwood is agreeably quite ass-like. it can be cut minimally by lemongrass, licorice, but that aftertaste still exists. i have no solution for cutting the aftertaste other than a shot of really strong spirits such as everclear or moonshine. let me know if you have tried something more effective.
Not sure I want to experience the taste of ass thank you...... but the recipe would be nice to have. Green Fairies would be welcomed. I've tasted something I was told was this, but it turned out to be some sort of other green alcoholic mix.
Perhaps it is because vampires exist but no o ne knows it until they are well and truly drunk... Faries exist but y ou have to open your mind to be able to see them... they are tricky lil basterds too.
im not sure but i think its cause its mixed well with other drinks i guess idk
For those wishing to try absinthe either with out green fairies, madness etc (yes too much will drive you mad due to the psychological effects, but in moderation it's probably fine) and with less of the aftertaste something like a pastishe, or pernod would be about right. The other option is Absente which is essentially the same but uses southern botanical wormwood rather than the other type.
As to the vampire link, I probably would go with idea that the writers or the era were drinking it and it had a sense of debonair risk and sensuality that vampires were supposed to embody.
Only 18 and older? Here its 21 and older..lol And I believe if I am not mistaken that drink IS outlawed in the states... but not other places.
I have no clue as to why its linked to vampires, but this looks like an interesting thread...Ill check back for further responces, and hope to see a green fairy or two when I return! ^_~
Never thought of it associated with vampires, but with Victorian Europe and the Bohemian society. I've tried it, but unfortunately, I cannot take the taste of black licorce.... darnnit.
There are recipes out there and I even have a few my self but its not really some thing for a novice to try . Many reasons and one of the major ones is Poor quality alcohols contain, in addition to pure ethanol, butylic alcohol, methyl alcohol and pentanols, amongst other things. Pure ethanol, with a boiling point of 79°C, evaporates from the lungs almost immediately, while amyl alcohol, for instance, with a boiling point of 140°C, almost never evaporates at human body temperature. Instead, it accumulates in the body.These essences which are difficult to get rid of are NOT present in spirits distilled from wine. So the unhealthy effects of bad alcohols explain why Pernod Fils was made from spirits distilled from wine .
Aniseed is the ingredients that cuts the flavor of the wormwood down and gives it the licorice.. IF you wish yo cut that down further use MORE sugar .. If you are drinking with out Sugar then you are drinking ASS as you put it.. The proper way is to have an Absinthe spoon (a spoon with decorative holes ) held over a glass half full of Absinthe. On said spoon there should be any where from 1 to 4 sugar cubes.. You are then to pour COLD water over the cubs desolveing the sugar into the glass as the water interacts with the Absinthe.
There are a few other accepted ways of doing the "sugar ritual" or to drink absinthe but this is the "OLD" way and the so called proper way.. It also teast the best as well.
One of the main herbs in legitimate Absinthe is wormwood and its derivative essence thujone. Thujone is classified as a convulsant poison, NOT a drug, having a similar structure as T.H.C., the active chemical in cannabis. Both thujone and T.H.C. are terpenoids and have a similar molecular geometry and similar functional groups available for metabolism. Despite the fact that thujone is classified as a convulsant poison, many doctors and scientists consider thujone to be a powerful drug, and psychoactive in relatively low dosages. However, little is known about whether or not it causes cumulative damage to the nervous system
I just had absinthe not too long ago, for the first time. I love it!! There's no real way to describe it other than licorice...that goes down warm and stays warm :) Awesome stuff.
I didn't really think anything about it being associated with vampires...other than seeing it in Bram Stoker's Dracula years ago.
In many bars what's known as "bar" absinthe is sold, as real absinthe (with the hallucinogenic properties) is illegal for sale in many countries. Bar absinthe is basically an alcoholic beverage which tastes similar to real absinthe, being aniseedy or licorice flavoured, and green. Real absinthe tastes very different. It's hard to get the wormwood out of it, and it has a much higher alcohol content... the stuff I have at home I imported from the Czech Republic and is 70% alcohol (which is reasonably weak for absinthe) with a quite high thujone content.
Myth about absinthe......when you make this drink you use a plant artemisia absintum. Absinthim - thats how absinthe got name at the first place. And artemesia stands for Artemis, Greek goddess of forest. (there you have little fairies)
For some time ppl belived that absinthe contain thc. ( there you have illusions) But thujone is not thc. And all that mess cuz some "scientist" mixed up thujone and thc. Thats why you can buy today absinthe in EU or US.
And why does vampires drink it?! When you hold absinthe on UV ligh it turns to be brown. Vampires don't like light, absinth don't like light - a perfect combination.
Dark Greeting's,
Very interesting thread.I have drank absinth (sp) :) no way to get rid of the Ass Taste(although I've never tasted ass,I guess ass would taste like that lol)I believe it is still illeagle to sell in the USA but not illeagle to have or drink.I would like to know how to get someone to send me some.
As to its connection to Vampires,it does warm one up,and like has been said writers of the time used it,and being a bit Tabo in US makes it more appealing.
Dark Blessing's,
KA
I kinda wanna try this drink :)... It's probably the only halucinagenic substance I'll ever want to try. Gotta love rum that makes you see faries :)
Do you know the precentage of alchohol on average?
Personally I think the main attraction to absinth for a lot people is the fact that it's illegal in so many places. I remember many a beer run to go to Missouri to get Coors beer because it wasn't legal east of the Mississippi river. Now that it is I rarely drink it and most of the other people I know that used to drink it a lot rarely do either now. That was even part of the premise for the movie "Smokey and the Bandit". The hallucination aspect of it is because wood alcohol contains chemicals that cause neurological damage in small amounts it can be temporary in larger or frequent amounts it can cause blindness or death. As for the association with vampires I would guess that has to do purely with works of fiction. I guess it could be that authors think that a mythical creature should have a drink of mythical proportions.
Wolvie, I think you are right. Also part of any vampire connection is probably more of a gothic novel type of connection. It was widely used in that timeframe and probably, like some already stated, used by authors of the novels.
All I know is I wanna see green fairies,as for the Absinthe,I have no idea what it is,I thought it was a drug back in the ages but it seems I am way off
Marilyn Manson came out with a brand calledd Mansynthe. I suppose if he has a vampire following there is now a connection. i guess?
Absinthe is said to contain a psychoactive chemical derived from the fermentaion of the wormwood, which is a main ingredient obviously. It was known to cause madness in people such as Toulouse LaTrec and others of the period, and therefore creates a draw for it's dangerous connotations in the literature both from then and now, which is always a draw for younger consumers.
Green and Yellow chartreuse are said to be the closest you can get these days with a liquer that is legal, but brew shops states-wide have wormwood for fermentation available in order to make your own.
There are dozens of websites that supposedly sell real absinthe, one of which is www.greendevil.com
I don't understand why anyone would want to drink something that "tastes like ass". I don't get people that drink Jagermeister even. I mean even one of their logos shows a guy making a face at how bad it tastes. If you want to hallucinate just don't sleep for 36hrs it's free and doesn't cause brain damage or leave a bad taste in your mouth. I could see more of a goth connection than a vampire connection, especially since in most legends and fiction vampires can only drink blood. Unless they would use it to "drug" their victims so they would think they were having sex with a green fairy instead of getting drained of their blood by a vampire. Then maybe the vampire could get high off their blood too.
Absinthe is only legal in the U.S. if it does not contain any of the things that make it absinthe
http://www.absinthe.bz/Absinthe-Articles/absinthe-legal-us.html?act_vn
Oh and the only way you can legally make your own in the U.S. is if the recipe you have does not call for distillation and even then it is only for your own use you can not distribute it. BTW Giving some to your buddy counts as distribution.
First Question: Would a vampire drink it to get high? To remember human ass?
Second Question: Why not just smoke weed?
"Absinthe Q&A.
Is Absinthe a drug ?
One of the main herbs in legitimate Absinthe is wormwood and its derivative essence thujone. Thujone is classified as a convulsant poison, NOT a drug, having a similar structure as T.H.C., the active chemical in cannabis. Both thujone and T.H.C. are terpenoids and have a similar molecular geometry and similar functional groups available for metabolism. Despite the fact that thujone is classified as a convulsant poison, many doctors and scientists consider thujone to be a powerful drug, and psychoactive in relatively low dosages. However, little is known about whether or not it causes cumulative damage to the nervous system. "
You forgot to link to where you copied this information MBD..Got you covered..
http://www.absinth.com/links/faq.html
I have personally never tasted it.but I do know a couple of friends who make their own.They luvv the stuff.
From an old herb book: Wormwood is an artemisia and this genus has 200 mostly aromatic plants.
In N.M. wormwood is noted for its worm-expelling properties (green fairies rout them out?). The Chinese use a leaf of wormwood rolled up in the nostril to stop nosebleeds.
Silver leafed artemisias visually stunning in moonlight (vampire connection?).
Mugwort is he most famous artemisia, though less aromatic and attractive, it is featured in magical lore of Europe, Asia and China.
A. absinthium, the most bitter herb after rue. "Lambrooke Silver" has silvery leaves; "Faith Ravens: has leaves that are more divided.
Rain washes a growth-inhibiting toxin out of the leaves that affect nearby plants.
Can be used as a moth repellent or grow near hen houses for protection against lice. Hang leaves in a granary to dispel beetles.
On the plus side, you can use mugwort to stuff a goose.
My friends and I always get a botrtle or two of Absinthe when we go to Santa Pod, and it's never made us see green fairies or anything. I have heard of the vampire connection, though I can't see why it would have anything to do with it...
I do know that if you mix it with sugar it's more likely to make you throw up...Great party game!
I have had absinthe with suger ad without on fire and not...and my guess would be this...its considered a drink for subcultres, and is largely anned in the US from what iI gather. As vamps are a subculture I guess the two things got lumped together.
You should try absinthe and red bull combo....it kicks :P
From what I understand Absinthe originally was primarily a European drink but when it came to the USA it was imported into New Orleans first and probably since there has always been a large vampyric underground there it made its way from there. I don't know about the technical properties of the drink as far as the wormwood, but three forms of it can be purchased from the Absinthe shop in New York online and I think they have a physical shop as well. That stuff is expensive, lol. I can see why some would want to make it but it makes no difference to me as I rarely drink.
Also in the present it has been featured in movies so it seems like it would fit appropriately in the community just due to that and that it had been a forbidden comodity given all the Goths mixed into the culture, it has a dark connotation.
i dont think id be interested to drink ass but like bloodmother said id rather smoke weed ..
bit of weed, bit of absinthe, bit of ass....and you get a...smokin ass..... :)
Right to clear up the legal side, it is illeagal to buy or sell Absinth(e) (spelling thing is like I say colour an american would say color) in the US if it contains more than about 5mg of the active compound. But companies such as the one mentioned in the first post conduct their transactions in the UK where it is legal under licence.
The maximum legal amount of the compound is 10mg that is enough for the psychoactive effect, at least in the EU. So if you buy via the website mentioned it would be legal as having absinthe for personal consuption is legal.
absynthe and dragon fruit sobe taste good together. i call it green dragon
unless its home made because nothing cuts that taste of bitter wormwood.
Hmmm i have not yet heard of this yet but i assure you i shall look into it and make a better reply for this beloved forum
Yeh iv been mixing it with sugar free rock star and call it absent minded
You drink it and it feels after you swallow that you didn’t drink anything .. after a while you just forget everything ..lol
Check this site out for much useful info on Wormwood.
Wormwood society
it is not connected with vampires but it does have a strong connection the artist and writers which is more than likely why it comes into so many vampire movies. When writers were too broke to get anything else, they got absynthe as it was the cheapest on the market. Many writers were hooked on it such as Oscar Wilde, Baudelaire, Manet and Picasso.
i whavent tried it yet but im going to soon verry excited
Many of the authors and poets during the romantic era practically lived off of the stuff, thus it worked its way into their gothic tales of the Nosferatu.
And yeah, Absinthe is the shit. Wicked hangover though.
Let's not forget everything is poison to the human body at a certain level. Thujone may make you trip out with a small dose, but you will die (siezure, coma, death) with a large dose.
There once was a bottle of absinthe
in which resided a fairy of green
I opened the top
she came out with a pop
and showed me pleasures that I've never seen.
By Jack Shreves
Interesting faq: Absinthe containing Thujone is prohibited from sale in the U.S.A.
wow...be careful since that stuff is illegal (lucky you)
Is is sold in liquor stores in EU? I'd love to try some if I ever get to visit.
we have absente (absinthe refined ) here in the usa it cost about 40 a bottle and is 110 proof its great i love it.... hubby and i drink it all the time.
but i dont think its just been out there for vampire related i know outher movies that have displayed the drinking of it such as from hell and blood and choclate wich was about lycans if you will. ive noticed it in many movies so i dont think it was just a vampire thing but to authenticate the drink of the era for that time period ..... this is a great thread .......
I think the vampire connection is simply that the drink is something most peopwele have herd of, few have tried and it has a lot of mistery arround it, and it is a sophiticated (sp) type of drink, so it makes sence to pare it with a vamp
The connection with absinthe and vampires is due once again to our age old friend Hollywood. Technically there's no real connection between the two. Nor has it ever been strictly outlined that vampires drink absinthe.
Perhaps because of the mysterious and dark feeling the idea of absinthe gives off and the same with vampires gives a close connection. One spooky thing must be connected to another. Right?
The legalities on absinthe in the U.S. is you can have one imported bottle person, without distributing. If you make it yourself you cannot use anything that technically makes it absinthe and distribution is still illegal.
I found a company that sells and ships globally -
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The website is cool... it has the way to drink it... for the guys you will enjoy the wallpaper... it also talks about the green faeries too if you read the history LOL
There is a wine shop where I live just east of New Orleans that sells the stuff. It's like $60 or $90 a bottle for a litre. Not cheap by any means. I may buy a bottle just for the novelty of it.
I too have never heard the connection of the drink & vampires.
Cannot handle the taste of black licorce, but had a blast watching my companions using the cube of sugar, and drinking 3 bottles of the drink and got a bit scary with their hallucinations!
I'm told that the American legal Absinth is different than the eastern European concoction. The stuff you can legally buy here consists of a THC derivative, while the original formula has wormwood in it.
As far as vampires and absynth drinking... The primary link comes from Anne Rice... There are Absinth bars in NO as well as here in SF. Anne Rice has lived in both cities.
Ive been around people that had imported the European versions - very potent stuff!
Being a happy user I just love it, I also notice when in a film they are drinking it. Blood and chocolate was the last film I watched this week with it in at the bar.
Any more films you can remember ?
Euro Trip had a scene in it...
I was at a party a couple of years ago where we poured it onto a sugar cube then lit it aflame. Have you had it this way?
If you would, look at the ingredients on the next bottle that you see, and let me know whether or not it containes 10 mg of therjone within it.
Legal absinthe in the US cannot contain more than 10mg.
I've seen red absinthe before. I'm a big fan of Absinthe as my friends all know, even though it likes making me puke.
I fail to see how it could be connected with vampires, maybe because it's become one of the 'ultimate goth drinks' lol hehe.
I never knew it was refered as the Nephilim. But...what would be the point of a true Vampire drinking it? It would do nothing for them would it?
I don't really know how it became associated with the goth or vampire cultures but from what I have been reading it has been linked to so many of the people who are so popular among a lot of goths like Edgar Allen Poe. It seems it is more associated with the more creative types of people and so those who are writing the stories of vampires and the like would have a reference to their favorite drink in the books which I can see making it popular for those who are into reading them.
Went and bought a bottle and the fairy will not leave me now...does anybody want one slightly drunk fairy?
I would love to try this.. Where could I buy it. I found it online, but that is it.
I have never drank the stuff but, I believe the connection may have come the movie Bra ms Stoker's Dracula ..
Miss Mina Murry enjoyed a few glasses with her beloved count ..