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I know of a few ways many of which were discovered by the maztech indians. One way they did this is through the use of Peyote(Illegal don't do it). The native americans still have legal rights to ingest this for certain traditions but not for any one else. The legal way is called Salvia Divinorum(Sage of Seers). Meditation is also another way. Does any one know of any others rather then just letting them come?

Hmm... a powerful spell maybe.

i tried salvia i didnt have visions, just a really big headache. . . but hey maybe i got so cheap stuff, meditation has always worked for me, but i dont have visions but only so often. i know that there certian potions that are suppose to induce visions, but im sure its probably just your bodys chemical reaction to certian chemicals. it would be kinda like me saying "i ate a box of coricidin and had visions." you know what i mean. . . just my thoughts though.

Pratice Dream Recall

get a Sodalite crystal.

kava kava is great for stilling the mind...
you can use tincture but I get the root and suck on it...all mystuff I like raw and natural

dont sleep for 5 days.youll see things, i guarentee it...if not sooner then the 5 days.(i started seeing things on day 3.)

true on the above/sleep deprevation is used in some things I do

you don't sleep 72 hours and drink lots of water throughout the process..for me I fast--- then you spend the night chanting and sipping on tea again..for me Kava tea but you can pick other

and breathing exercises are encouraged to raise/chi/prana/etc.

but for a novice or for one not into eastern ways...I just tell the person to breath

to still mind, to still soul to balance breath
to focus on a swinging pedulum
to chant a mantra softly and
well
off you go!

alot of this is more detailed but ...you get my drift.

A minimum of 3 days with no sleep, and you are guaranteed to see and hear things. Supposedly it means you are "insane" but I think it's just that it DRIVES you insane.

one of the best ways is to sit in a pitch black room, and there carnt be any source of light or it wont work. slowly but it will happen you'll have this small dot of colour appear, you have to focus on this spot, and it will become bigger and bigger untilll it fills your whole vision, and by that time you'll be in a werid and wondefull world of your own mind experienceing a vision.


(this does work people, prisioners that were put into isolation in pitch black rooms did this to keep the loneiness and fear away)

you have already took mine ....there are actually different breeds of Salvia

it is sold as an insence the reason is that it is dangerous if the person does not know what they are doing

i do not advice doing any of the Salvia breed or their cousins without supervision

i do have some more but they are dangerous as well

henbane, mandrake, jimson weed, lily of the valley, spindle tree, hemlock, blood root, belladonna, wormwood (used in absinthe btw), jalap root, and tonka bean are the ones i have tried so far out of my list

all of these are usually hard to get

by the way this is the latest law updates on Salvia

(http://www.erowid.org/plants/salvia/salvia_law.shtml)


Louisiana #
Effective Aug 8, 2005 (signed into law Jun 28, 2005) Louisiana Act No 159 makes 40 plants illegal, including S. divinorum, when intended for human consumption. The law specifically excludes the "possession, planting, cultivation, growing, or harvesting" of these plants if used "strictly for aesthetic, landscaping, or decorative purposes." (Text of HLS_05RS-52 and Update June 2005)

Missouri #
On Aug 28, 2005 House Bill 633 was incorporated into 195.017 of Missouri's drug regulation statutes. Thus, Salvia and salvinorin A became Schedule I substances in that state. As far as Erowid knows, Missouri is the first state in the U.S. to actually schedule s. divinorum or its active chemical. http://www.moga.state.mo.us/statutes/chapters/chap195.htm. (Thanks Q)
St. Peters city passed an ordinance banning sales of Salvia divinorum to minors aged 17 or younger. Jan 2003. (St Peters Journal - Jan 26, 2003)
HB165 introduced in state legislature, proposing addition of S.divinorum to list of scheduled substances. No hearing scheduled as of Jan 2005. (MO House of Representatives)

New Jersey #
No law concerning Salvia d. known, but a mention in news about Northern Monmouth includes the following curious text: app.com GRAND TOUR: Two 15-year-old borough males were charged on Sept. 10 with illegal possession of salvia divinorum with intent to distribute by Sgt. Kevin Roake.

New York #
New York is moving to control Salvia divinorum. State Targets Tripped Out Herb - Long Island Press, June 16 2005. Also see the text of the proposed law taken from the very, very awful web site at: http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/ . (Thanks Embroglio)


Australia #
The Australian National Drugs & Poisons Scheduling Committee recommended in November 2001 to have Salvia divinorum and salvinorin A added to Australia's strictest schedule, Schedule 9. The recommendations took effect on June 1, 2002, making dried or prepared S. divinorum illegal to buy, sell, or possess.

While drug laws fall under under state jurisdiction in Australia, most states automatically incorporate changes and additions to federal law into the law of the state. This means that for all practical purposes, S. divinorum should be assumed to be controlled in all of Australia.

It is unclear whether live S. divinorum plants are now illegal as well. According to Shaman Australis, prior to this ruling, there were only three plants that were illegal in Australia: Erythroxylum species that contain cocaine, the opium poppy, and Cannabis. Other plants that contain scheduled substances are not generally considered illegal as long as the active chemicals are not extracted from them and they are not prepared for use (much as in the United States). This is likely now the case with S. divinorum as well.

Australia is the first country to have pass laws against the possession of Salvia divinorum.


Shaman Australis Salvia Law Page
More Australian Drug Law
National Drugs and Poisons Schedule Committee - November 2001 Gazette
Salvia Crusaders of Australia

Belgium #
Salvinorin-A ("Salvorin A") was added to the list of controlled psychotropic substances on Oct 18, 2004. [Moniteur Belge/Belgisch Staatsblad].

Canada #
Salvia divinorum is not controlled in Canada.

Denmark #
Salvia divinorum (and salvinorin) were added to category B of the controlled substances list on August 23, 2003. (text of law)

Finland #
In August 2002, Finland passed laws against the importation of Salvia divinorum.

Germany #
Salvia divinorum is not controlled in Germany. (Unconfirmed, thanks Ujo). Erowid received the following comment in Dec 2005:
Two months ago I was travelling by train from Amsterdam through Germany and I was searched by German police.They confistated 1/2 gram of Salvia divinorum from me and I just received a fine for 100 euros in the mail. Either it is controlled or I'm the victim of an overzealous German district attorney. - JM

Israel #
"S. divinorum has been sold by small vendors in Israel but low demand caused at least one vendor to stop selling it. The chief pharmacist at the Ministry of Health told one inquirer that it was not illegal to possess but might not be legal to sell because its not an approved drug. Individuals have reported that they have imported S. divinorum into Israel through customs without incident, although additional border taxes may be applied." - Aly.

Italy #
S. divinorum and salvinorin A were added to the "Tabella 1" (list of prohibited plants and substances) in a Jan 11, 2005 Ministry of Health statement. Salvia is illegal to grow, possess, distribute, etc. This follows a Jun 2004 ordinance making it illegal to sell Salvia divinorum and salvinorin A. (Text of Jan 11 2005 decree: Gazzetta Ufficiale N. 54 del 07 Marzo 2005; text of Jun 2004 ordinance) (Thanks xochi, alberto, ^DiO-LeCcIo^) First Arrest in Italy Related to S. divinorum, May 19 2005

Japan #
Salvia divinorum is sold in head shops in Japan.

Netherlands #
Salvia divinorum is legal to buy, sell and possess in the Netherlands.

Norway #
Salvia divinorum is not specifically controlled in Norway, but the national health council has said it considers it a prescription drug based on its use as a psychoactive drug. http://www.lovdata.no/for/sf/hd/td-19991227-1565-0.html#1 (Thanks dodecha).

Portugal #
Salvia divinorum is not listed in any Portugese law or regularion that we know of. (Thanks J)

South Africa #
Salvia divinorum is not controlled in South Africa and legal to possess, sell, and import. (Unconfirmed, Thanks DL)

South Korea #
As of January 2005, both Salvia divinorum and Salvinorin A are controlled in S. Korea. (media) (Thanks M)

Sweden #
As of March 1, 2006, Salvia divinorum and any product containing salvinorin are illegal to sell or possess. (Thanks Perdador, SA)

Perdador writes: "Up until that very day, online shops sold extracts and leaves for reasonable prices. The online shops seem to follow the new laws, and it is now hard to find any extracts or leaves of the plant from within Sweden. However ordering from other EU countries is still possible and the risk of getting caught is probably very low since the customs don't actively search for salvia divinorum, and probably will not even in the future because of how rare the drug is. During the last weeks before March 1 2006 prices were dumped very low on the swedish online shops that wanted to get rid of all their salvia divinorum in time, and the interest in the drug has probably never been greater because of the change in law." (Mar 3, 2006)

U.K. #
Salvia divinorum is unscheduled in the U.K., making it legal to buy, sell or possess. DW Writes:
Khat (Catha eduluis), Salvia divinorum, Ma Huang, and Yohimbe are widely accepted as "legal highs" here in the UK. In fact it is not just 'head shops' where you can buy these plants (live or prepared). Some plant nurseries sell them, including some with awards from the Royal Horticulture Society.

Some Conservative Members of Parliament bring up the legal issues around these plants, but nothing has changed in the law. In the teen drug treatment world, these drugs are rarely seen or mentioned as they are generally unknown among British teens. I have heard rumors that people have been charged with intoxicated driving for driving while on these drugs, but have seen no confirmation. -- DW

Bassetlaw MP John Mann has raised an 'Early Day Motion' in Oct 2005 (a notice for Commons debate) following on from a local newspaper report in the Worksop Guardian. Although there are lots of early-day motions and most do not become a law, they can indicate the direction of Parliament. (Thanks to Chris).

Sleep deprivation.... You'll either see things (hallucinate) or go flat out bananas!!!! Visions I thought were supposed to come to you randomly anyway?? Please enlighten me....

Here is a sight that has a whole databse on such things: www.erowid.com
Also sensory deprivation tanks, self hypnosis, meditation, and severe dehydration...although I wouldn't advise it

Erowid is known quite well to me i visit often lol. And yes visions do come randomly but there may come a time when you want them to come or just won't. So you may have to coax them along a little. Thanks all for your help and satansseed i am well aware of the dangers of salvia thank you for your concern the first few times i tried it i made sure i had a "sitter" and when ever i try stronger stuff i have a "sitter" better safe then srry

well, lick a poison arrow frog. lol, hmm im not sure if thats even save(inducing "visions")

well not sure if it works all the time ,but before casting spells ,witches sometimes cast a magic circle to protect themselves ,and ive gone into a slight dream state sometimes and seen things which maybe be classed as visions

Meditation and a candle flame worked for me just one time, however, and never have been able to get myself back into that state again.....

I do not condone drugs, too harmful to the body

Starve yourself for three days... you`ll start seeing visions then all right.

Keep in mind, al these things happen in your mind. focus your mind enough and you can break through these barrier. Spells, meditation, all these are merly ways of focusing the mind. I use a process called gnosis, in wich you completly cut off from reality, and focus on one singular purpose. Forcing your self into moments of insanity seem's to speed up the process...

You are welcome. I am glad I could help. This is a very good topic. wish i would have thought of it myself.

     All I now about having visions is being sensitive with your surroundings. They give slight signs of what is about to happen also include in your observations your daily routines.

     My other visions are in dreams so if you can keep a dream journal, I predicted so many circumstances that way. Hmm... maybe that's why I'm not too much affected when my grandfater died.

I think that you need to be predisposed to having visions before such things can truly do something. They are there merely to enhance capabilities, not to create them.

I'm giving the fast a try. I'll post my results in a few days.

jim beam no just joking lol but very interesting post

Interesting... O-o I would go with the sleep thing, but I doubt I could do it, I like my sleepy too much @_@ Sleep is good... ^^ lol.. ^^ I heard if you do something like cloud 9 you pass out and are said to " See things " But I also think it's dangerous.

(step 1)lay down in a bathtub full of water with a cement block on your chest.

(step 2) Drown

(step 3) Experiance Vision

(step 4) Have the friend you hopefully had there revieve you.

(step 5) I hope you recorded it :)

trust me. You will want to stay up for 1 week or more to have more than just a vision or two. You'll see amazing things. Though I do not recomend it. It takes a long time for your body to get back into its own schedule.
No eating and just drinking water for a while will help induce it too.

I have a spell to induce and inhance Visions, You Burn Amber and Sage together that a spell i have found and I have used myself out of a spell book that i have. In my Journal I have some spells and right now only a couple but im adding to it.

Pushing your body to it's limits and beyond seems to work well to force visions.

Certain herbs other than sage I know do.. even some oils or incense that are burned to induce visions.. it really is all about research.. then trial and error..

if i were you id look up and practice astro projection ... learning may help you to acheive the results your looking for... Spells work but if your untrained your asking for trouble...you may want to do any research before you try to starve your body of food or sleep...

have you heard of stereograms? they're amusing little pictures that when you look at them a certain way appear 3d. It says in the manual that it helps to open your 3rd eye, which i gues i don't need to explain to anyone here. You should check them out if you haven't already. Just google it and you'll come up with lots of results. I think they have helped me a bit.

Sleep depravations while eating certain fruites is said to be one, the fruits are said to be the seedless ones, of which i only know of two.

I agree with lillithskye its very true. Ty lillith :)

Matering meditation is a great tool. When meditating properly you can learn to open yourself up to many great things, including visions...

Wow. I never knew such really exsisted!

I don't consider hallucinations to be visions, sorry.

Although, if you're just looking for something 'fun' to do, try lucid dreaming.

I did it once, thought I was going to die. It scared me a lot.

maybe u should try astral projection... i have had visions that have come true by those means...

visons via draems perhaps. some of my dreams happen in real life but they dont happen often..

I have had some success with Meditation, but not as much as I would like.

My partner on the other hand has a real problem, she can no longer meditate to relax, and instead journeys every time!

I like my food too much to fast, I need my sleep too much for sleep deprivation, and I don't like putting anything other then Caffeine and Alcohol as drugs into my system.

There is some writing on sexual ecstasy as giving a path and connection to God (there are some medieval texts on the subject, Nuns were actively encouraged to masturbate to ecstasy to connect with God, as well as to stop their womb wondering and strangling them, honestly!, don’t believe all the “cleaned up history” the Victorians would have you believe!) So I think I may look further into the Tantric techniques, except they insist on abstinence, and that could really be hard! (Plus would get me a kicking, trust me!)

We used to do this at college when we were bored:

Crouch down on the floor, sat on your haunches.
Breath in and out as deeply as you can through the mouth 20 times.
Stand up, put your thumb between your lips and blow as hard as you can (without letting any air out). And make sure someone is there to catch you.

After a few seconds you convulse and awaken with memories of bizarre dreams as if you'd been asleep for hours.

It's no less a 'vision' than all these drug induced hallucinations.

Facinating! Hypoxia I'd guess?

Suffocation or drowning are also similar, if reversed and bloody dangerous techniques!

the best way to start seeing shadow people is sleep dep which is FREE. all you pay is some of your sanity, which is not necissary to you if you want to see these said shadow people to begin with.

Seems like sleep deprivation and being locked in a dark room should do the trick :D now im going to try it :P

Just a quick warning note:

Sleep deprivation is not really a good way to go. When we are in REM (Rabid Eye Movement) sleep are brains produce chemicals that no only keep us healthly but sane. After 2 to 5 days, depending on the person and how much they produce, the brains level of the chemicals that make reality, reality and Fantasy, fanstay are almost gone. Thats when you start having your visions and such because of a chemical in balance that many people have natural and often to much higher degree. This is called schizophrenia which I am sure anyone who has it can tell you in it not fun thing to go through. Besides that your immune systems weakens from lack of sleep and the areas of your brain that produce this chemicals start to be damaged. Sure once and awhile is fine but over time it adds up.

well then its a good thing that im 1/8 native american so i can do this legally.

might have to give peyote a try one of these days........under shaman supervision of course.

salvia is not that great the feeling only lasts a few minutes, something that really induces visions is a substance called Ayahuasca indians in south america use it for such purposes and i have tried it a few times but it can be a very wild and uncontrollable trip

I wouldn't think drugs or sleep deprivation would be a good thing. I like the bath tub idea, and the candle.
I cant get my mind to not be so active, to even focus or concentrate on doing such a thing. I have problems just recalling dreams.
I like a lot of the suggestions here.

I just pray, yeah, I know, boring!
But new ideas would be welcome of course.

first meditation spell or absinthe

before i went through puberty i used to be able to know anything i wanted through my dreams...


to sleep, to dream, to know it all

to wake, to remember, to search my soul

to know, to feel, my dreams are true

come one, come all, and tell me the truth



that (i can honestly say) was the first ever spell i wrote and it worked well for me... for years even.

lots of meditation helps with inducing visions

Use water in a dark bowl and write ur questions on a piece of paper while staring into this dark water. Many times your mind will see in the water the answers to ur questions, this is similar to what nostrodomus did.

I tried your method DaemonWraith but I couldnt stay off the pc long enough ! Pain can bring visions. If its good enough.

Well I am the last person to condone other people's drug use... under any circumstance, but I use Salvia... it is legal here in Florida and we buy it by the O out of the local head-shops.... but i dont reccommend it unless A) You are a person who researches your recreation fully and properly, or B) You are a doctor.

I don't have time anymore for meditation. :( there isn't even enough room in this trailor. But I do get some bizzarre dreams when i sleep without pillows...odd??

i have gotten to where i can meditate anywhere even in a bar with lots of music

I find that meditation always works best.. having had access to both herbs.. neither worked as well as the power of my own mind

well, from what I have heard and studied, it seems like astral projection is a good bet. though a tad hard to achieve. However, after some practice, not only can one access the akashic records, but may be able to enter a plane where such vision exist.... so I have heard. anyhelp?

I don't think that sleep depravation is a very good way! I have insomnia, & am up for several days at a time, all the time! I've seen more after I have had a few good nights sleep then I ever do without! Someone mentioned staying up 5 days, & you will definetly see something! Well, I've been to that point a few times & nothing! Yeah from sleep derivation sometimes you do go a little insane as someone said earlier, but me personally, i had no visions! I have had visions before, but you have to open yourself up to them, relax, & don't try to force it to happen!

funny...peyote illegal...? I remember seeing adds where you could order it in the mail in the high times magazines....

Absinthe could help....
I use to take a pill called Depekote(?) as part of my treatment for depression and there were several times where I started dreaming although I wasn't completely asleep...something strange happened that startled me and I snapped out of the dream but wasn't able to control my body yet....It was wierd.....

Also although illegal when I use to do mescaline (micro dots) I felt that I could make myself do things I normally could not...The sensation of the drug for me seemed to affect how I focused on things...I could only focus one one thing at a time....exam(if I was listening to music I couldn't hear you talk, If I listened to you talking I couldn't hear the music in the background) I shifted this to playing my guitar and only wished I would have recorded it...lol

i find that when i'm IN water my visions come in clearer. someone told me that's because my element is water, but maybe that would work with other people.


salt water works best with me, ocean.

It’s interesting to note that EVERY method listed here could be physically or psychologically dangerous. (Except for meditation. Forgive me if I missed one.)

Myrrhkuri: Peyote contains mescaline and is very illegal. What you saw was an ad for San Pedro cactus. (This also contains mescaline, yet ironically is perfectly legal to sell or possess as long as it’s not for human consumption.) SECOND-- microdots are not mescaline. They contain LSD. LSD doses are usually 50 to 200 micrograms. You could put that on the head of a pin. Mescaline is measured in milligrams. A dose of mescaline would look more like an aspirin tablet. Dealers sell microdots as mesc either because that’s what they were told and they believe it (this is a common drug-myth) or they are trying to jack up the price by selling something more “exotic.”

I personally do not recommend salvia or mescaline. Especially for the beginner. Both are VERY intense. It is also very easy to miscalculate a dose of salvia your first time. This can be dangerous even for the experienced explorer. Too much salvia can cause loss of consciousness. That happened to me the first time. I blacked out for five minutes, and when I woke up I was scared shitless. This could be dangerous for obvious reasons, as you’re not actually asleep, just unaware of your actions.

Ayahuasca/DMT is a whole other world. Often a very frightening one. Experiencing entity contact is not unusual for DMT. Nor is the feeling that you are dying/have died.

Whether you’re talking about drugs or sleep deprivation or oxygen deprivation, they all hold very real dangers. Use your head. Make an INFORMED decision.

I would very much like to see some people post more non-drug, non-meditative methods.

just go to the hypnosis thingy and you'll be ok. *proven fact. It only works if you believe in it*

Sounds to me like meditation is the safest way to go.

with me meditation works the best for getting the vision i just sit and concentrate on my breathing. but for others it may not work every person is different

I meditate on a thought or question untill I fall asleep... I know dreaming is not quite the same but it has always worked quite well for me.

I tend to "accidently" do a lot of things in my sleep actually... I have actually astral projected a few times while asleep and I have no idea how I did it....

Sleep seems to be my medium.

Someone mentioned the drug Depakote! I also took this drug! I took it for severe migraines! I also had very extreme & vivid dreams while I was taking it! However if I am not mistaken this drug is known for causing night termors! This medicine is doctor prescribed, but is still kind of risky! It has some major side effects & can also cause permanent liver damage! It is most commonly used to treat seizures! I had to have blood drawn & my liver tested once a month! I don't advise anyone to try it for the purpose of inducing mages!

I guess I can't say much about this one, I took so much damn acid when I was a teenager, I still see things from time to time. The sleep deprivation definetly works as well, although it was drug induced, I was up for 16 days and I've never seen more things in my life.

P.S. Drugs are bad for you stay away from them, I hate them now, all of them. I don't even take tylenol. lol

Sweat Lodge.

Also has its dangers, but can work quite well. Harder to set up however, and the traditional Sweat Lodge normally uses drugs to "help things along"

As a non smoker Nicotine can also generate quite a serious high and the sensation of flying (often used in Flying Potions/Ointments for this reason)

Cranial Trauma, but that’s just stupid :-) People with brain lesions as a result of cranial trauma often experience "visions" and/or hallucinations.

Really, to be honest, any externally induced "vision" is the result of "messing with you brain" and is by that very definition is not a very healthy idea!

Meditation, Hypnosis, Drumming, Guided Meditation, and such, all what could be termed "internally induced" visions depend on existing occurring chemicals in the brain and are by definition MUCH safer!

I usually get visions through dreaming, so I always note my dreams that seem significant. The last time I didn’t cost me a fortune. I dreamt I totalled my new car, it swerved across the road and hit a fence head on. The next day I drove to work a different way and hit black ice and guess what my car was a right off - gutted, this was exactly what my dream predicated except that if was day instead of night. I have grown to accept them and always appreciate the warnings.

The native americans go on vision quests, walk out into the foreset or a calming place, then meditate, go past dream, into the unconcious, let the vision come to you. If you know and know what and how to use your spiritguides these help. Don't look to hard for a vision, let it find you when you are ready you will see it...

Visions just come to me but if i concentration on clearing my mind I can induce them.....I do this a lot actually.

In many native american cultures inducing visions could also be achieved by stoking a fire until it was blue and watching the flame long enough they would see things in the fire.

Ok so what is salvia?

i have read a lot of the posts it seems that a lot suggest drugs in my opinion drugs are not the way to go but hey thats me

I get visions without doing anything, well there more of memories

Shrooms, just dont get caught doing them

Acid would also work, once again dont get caught....

if your ment to have a vision it will come to you naturally

Try standing in the middle of the woods for 5 days drinking only rainwater and eating moss, that should work. hehe. But seriously, my opinion is that you shouldn`t try to induce visions, it`s unhealthy, if you were meant to have them you will. If not, well, you`ve got other things to do, don`t you, it`s called living. I have not visions, but something I call soundsight. It first happened when I was ten and got lost in the woods around our old house. I couldn`t find a way back since I was too scared of getting more lost if I moved so i listened for sounds of people. it didn`t work, but what did happen when i closed my eyes was I saw stuff around me, in black and white. I saw a black shadow racing ahead of me. I followed it. when I opened my eyes, i saw that I was standing in my back yard at it was completely dark.

just eat some shrooms lmao

I have visions when I stay awake for a couple days and meditate.

The worm at the bottom of a bottle of Mezcal. The little card attached to the bottle even says it's a vision maker! LOL. I tried it once. By the time I got to the bottom of the bottle of primo Mezcal Tequila... I definately saw visions!

Oh, very funny. ::laughs:: I bet you would. =)

candles simply light a hundred or so (( mostly for light)) and slowly exstingish about 25 and inhale the smoke or use mild incense and stare into the light and focus of the objective

Druidic: I’m very interested in trying the Sweat Lodge. I’ve read a bit about it. Does seem like it could be dangerous, and unfortunately I don’t know where I could find that kind of thing around here. Good one, though.

Aridai: That almost seems like a form of self-hypnosis, or putting yourself in a trance state. The fire would serve, visually, almost the same way traditional shamanistic drumming would. Or so it would seem.

Arenya and Adrienne: I disagree with your view. People in cultures all over the world throughout history have typically put forth great effort, devising various methods to induce visions. Some people seem to have them spontaneously; but that is rare. Who is to say that one should not try to have a vision. To me that seems equivalent to not trying to be a spiritual person just because you’re not “meant to” be. Or not trying to be successful in life, because it wasn’t “meant to be.” In other words, a cop-out.

dont eat for 6 days, no sleeping, only drinking water. then run as fast as you can for five minutes (seriously fast as you can). keep this up, and dont faint.

I personally think yarrow is the best way.
Induces visions through dreams if placed below your pillow while sleeping.

i merely stated that to suggest drugs to induce visions is not a good idea.expecially for someone that has no experience with drugs how are they to know how much will cause the visions. in my case i find relaxing in deep meditation works best for visions as well as in somecases sleeping gives me visions as well. guess i was coming off wrong sorry about that

dreams are visions you just got to dischipor the crap from wht is right. so dreaming is the easiest way to have visions.

Well i have had visions for a couple of years now and usually i don't like to induce them. However, if it is necessary i gather energy from all of the elements than sit in the middle of a pentagram/pentacle (whatever you prefer to call it) made by candles at each point, the colours you use also make a difference it doesn't have to be the colours of the element but what you feel comfortable with. I bring myself into deep meditation then go into the rooms of my mind. I have a specific room of which i go to to induce visions and i merely call them to me. with the power of the elements and my power as well it has never let me down you just have to believe in it.
-MixedBlood-

everyone seems to think drugs is the only way to indues "visions." I think it's something you either work hard towrads achiving through time, trial and error, or you're simply born with it.

try to mediitate before doing a avision listen to some calming music n a dark room it helps me with lit candles just a tip on what i do before i perform anything

just keep up with the meditation. i has always done me good.

Well, look at the recent post of mine under the Bo graves in China, there is alist of psychedelics there

but there is always a tequila shortage, too many spring breaks in between the seven years in takes for the agave plant to mature, from which tequila comes from... actually I had a vision just last week, the Greeks thought the sun was really Apollos chariot being raced across the sky, and the disk of the sun was really a chariot wheel, I saw a false sun, it was cool albeit a harbringer of doom....

IT'S CALLED PEYOTE

try absinthe.

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Ok, I'm not saying you should *wink wink*, Ah who am I kidding. DXM which is a disassociate helps bring about new ideas and if you have the mental fortitude and strength, you can induce visions. Which is basically your inner psyche sorting through your sub-conscious and explaining what you wish to know. I personally have no problem seeing visions. Everyone in my family has them and has had them for 5 generations.

I've found that meditation loosens me up and that I'm more susceptible to visions when I'm relaxed. So meditation is really just an aid for me, a means to an end.

well you didnt here this from me but a speshal herb has allways werked

try hypnotism then dream recall that may help a bit sorry for my spelling it sucks

try smokeing banana leaves after putting them in whiskey for a week and them let tham dry for three days in the sun it will work.....

Thanks for all your posts. I found a lot of useful information, some of which I did not know. This helps in my search to explain things about me I do not understand.

Ive only seen a vision happen once..that was with my sister shes pagen(not sure if that has anything to do with it)but..she had a vision from Odin.....hopefully everyone here is smart enough to know who odin is. It was just weird and I got told something..it was just really odd..

You can also try Mugwort tea.

Also cast a circle in a dark room, light a candle in the middle and just stare at the flame, you will trance, your mind will open and if your are meant to have visions you will.

There is always Mo Betta Butter if it is made right.

visions...i'd love to help you out, but never had one. Had a dream that came true once though...eh...sorta not that same though :P

1.) Fast
2.) cleanse
3.)Sweat
Have vision have fun but remember to cleanse first as this is the most important part. If your not centered that is being right with yourself you can harm yourself..
Most people I know go to a lodge and they have leaders that are there to guide you.
Also helpful is your spirit guide...Mine happens to be a Redtailed Hawk and also a Black Bear...
My teachers were Lakota so they used what they called the seven stones.. Each stone placed of the seven had a prayer related to it...
I know I am a dichotomy

i get visions in my dreams with nothing special but i credit god for them...and.. i dont have many.

Truly the sweat lodge thing work no matter what your belief system is and its good for you too

visions are premonitions and retrospect flashbacks

premonitions are visions that because we dream them they might be able to be put into reality, for in order for things to be achieved they must first be dreamed in a vision

future visions are based upon making sense of past visions

they are all intertwined the past the present vision and your future hold a bottle of tequila with the worm in it

Tyr not sleeping for a few days thats how i see alot ofweird things longest i havent selpt was a week woah. I saw lots of stuff lol

I still stress the sweat Lodge and no Lodge I have ever gone to had any kind of drug usage infact if they found you using they sent you away till you could come back sober and ready for the real work on yourself drugs are the easy way out...The only lodges that do use ritual drugs are those that are part of the American Indian Church and they are allowed to do so as this is part of there ritual...They do not allow outsiders and you cant just go and join these churches you are born to them...It is all part of the Tribal systems and beliefs...With the Lakota they send you out on your own to fast...well you think your alone someone is there to watch over you and make sure you remain undisturbed by either other people or wild animals...Peyote is a southwestern tradition not used by all tribes at all..I have never heard of Siliva till I came here so I have no idea what it does or how it might harm a person.....I do now with in the GArdenairens we use Worm Wood but only after they felt you had passed all the tests and were part of there coven en toto........Lakots is the easiest and simplest of the traditions I know of for a vision or dream quest...it is also concidered by them to be the passage between childhood and adulthood...They are meant to bring you a vision of something you need to do or provide you with a spirit guide simple as that............

What do you want to see?

I am sure the different things that induce visions induce differnt types of visions, so what you see is different depending upon what you take. I know there are ways of altering smell, sight, texture, heat and cold... all sorts of things

fasting. and not just a day, but two.. followed by deep meditation.. it is oh so clarifying vision wise

Cast acouple of spells maybe.

most people use drugs, man.

well in my country its all meditation.all our sages or sadhus they do tel us abt their experiences.

Not sure if it is mentioned above, but Peyote is currently being legalized in mexico.

have you ever tried to fall into a trance? it helped me

There are a few ways to open the third eye. You can try that and then they should come when you sleep. Just remember to close your third eye when you get up. You end up seeing things you don't really want to during the day.

I've heard of the whole self hypnosis thing, but not much of anything else.

hey

I see alot at night but it's hard for me to remember it all .maybe I try to hard...

I recently did a stint of over 72 hours without sleep. It's a very good way to induce visions but the trick is keeping yourself awake. I wouldn't recommend going over a week though. After a week they use sedatives to put you out. You really do lose your mind...

through meditation with the burning incense of devotion, strenght, and visdom have i obtain my visions, many of which are/were difficult to read, difficult to understand. howere throught the next week to month it would be brightened by the light of my hate

i belive that they just happen when they do....every person is different...

for me the only way i see them is through my dreams...

& theve been quite accurate so far :)

so just keep trying different suggestions but i also dont like the drug ideas...spices maybe but not drugs...

Well, visions are going to be entirely your own, it may be the force of the universe flowing through your third eye, but it still is "your" third eye. If you fear what is inside you, I would say don't go to Mexico, if you want to find out more of the way you could see things, and you think that perhaps you come from something good and are adjusting to a difficult world, the life of a psychedelic is temporarily a pleasant one, yet, using drugs or tequila to achieve mentat states, it is difficult to get out of those states of head you fearlessly entered, because you didn't know better.

I didn't sleep one second for 8 straight days, and my body began to shake. I wanted to jump off of a roof. Some of you are wondering why I didn't, and maybe it would have been a good thing. But no matter what happens to you in life, people, life is worth sticking around for in the end, the heads that you can get into are only temporary, but I would say, only do mind altering drugs if you have a strong brain and strong philosophy, come from something good, use it to get somewheers better, and know when to stop. Angel dust for me was a hallucinagenic, but you all know about all the angel dust suicides from rooftops. Angel dust is a tranquilizer, if you take too much of it, your senses get thrown off, the sense of hot and cold, touch and sound, all sorts of things, it freaks you out, you think you will never be the same again, and so you jump and never get here to write these things to people, warning them about the dangers of alterererererering the mindseye.

People please...All of the things your are ingesting are POISON, especially hemlock, etc.
You will hallucinate if you drink Drain Cleaner (as well as die a slow horrible death). You will have "visions" alright. Visions of how fucking stupid it was.

Seriously, If must "induce visions" then drop acid, eat mushrooms or even peyote (you'll puke and probably piss your pants). At least these methods have been proven over time. If you are hoping for a psychic "vision", you either have the ability or not. I'm not suggesting or promoting these illegal drugs, but it's better than doing something completely dangerous and stupid..
Remember...everything is a poison at the correct dose.

Uggghhh!!!!

no one is taking Hemlock here, it has no value in any dose, even a small bit of it will kill you quickly.

But detoxing the body of impurities is important. In my health column on my journal, I have listed a detox program of 7 or 8 days, no cigs no caffeine, no drinking no drugging

the whole diet is there, the reasons for the detox is also there, it restores the order of the hormones, and balances fluids in the body.

I think my old Soulmate told me once that red clover cleanses the blood, but that is hearsay, yet, on a vampire site I thought I'd bring it up.

have you ever tried lucid dreaming, trance and meditation are still about the safest. Find a reputable hypno therapist to help you with the lucid dreaming. It is quite liberating.
enjoy

most visions i have seen are drug indused, with a combination so sleep depravation... not to helth to achive..
drug indused visions can be borderline scitso.. i know that meth induses scitso like visions or halusanations..... pardon spelling word is down... but not hte ones you would be looking to gain any kind of speritual gradafication.
stick to salvia it can be bought in local smoke shops of herbal stors...

I didn't read a lot of this, because the initial part was sort of a turn off. Peyote is only illegal if one is not using it for spiritual purposes, so if you are truly seeking visions then that is one of the best ways to do it.

Salvia Divinorum will give you a vision of a different caliber, while LSD gives you yet another variety of vision. Psilocybin Mushrooms give a similar vision to the one LSD does, and Amanita Muscaria give a more dissoaciative vision.

If you are truly seeking visions, then none of these things are truly illegal, for there are strict laws on such things being allowed to use in religious ceremony.

Shamanism for example is a religion that heavily relies on the use of these so called illegal substances.

Check out http://erowid.org/ For all kinds of unbiased information on different plants and drugs. Do some comparisons. Look at the DXM article for example, this is one that is illegal, and look at the health effects of it. It will also mention a type of DXM that should never be used.

This type is the kind that contains Acetominophen, which is a legal substance. The reason you should use pure DXM is that it is harmless to you physically and mentally, however Acetopminophan is fatal in not too large a dose. The LD50 (The amount that is fatal 50% of the time) of DXM is 50,000 mg per kg in a rat. Well, obviously! That much substance is several times the mass of a rat!

Other ways involve going underground and meditating under no influence, or fasting for long periods, also just being in a place of high spiritual energy such as the Temple of Isis, or the Temple's of the Oracles in Greece, and Parnassis. Another such place is where the Tigris and Euphrates rivers meet, or even Stonehenge!

So if you truly want visions do a little research on these things. Also it may help to do some research on the life and teachings of Jesus Christ, this is a little more difficult however because of just how much of his life has been sheltered from view by the Church, however they did let a few passages slip by, so you may be able to find a tiny bit of his true message in the bible.

Another route is to (this may surprise) look at the music and lyrics of Tool, they are an amazingly spiritual band, and much of the teachings of Jesus can be found in their music. I'll betcha thought they were sacriligous, eh? The artwork of Alex Grey is also a great muse for setting about on Vision Quests.

Another wonderful source for information is the United Life Church, or ULC, who has many courses on religious studies in all religions.

Hope this helps :)

One last place to try is www.astraldynamics.com There are many tutorials on his site that will lead you to many of your desired visions. Under the New Energy Ways, these are wonderful to those people with a very Western mind set.

ha, Sleep deprivation is always fun. Just make sure (if you want a caffeine enduced high) to NEVER EVER mix Dr. Pepper, green tea, and triple shot coffee together. It makes the nastiest sludge you will ever encounter. You'll still drink it since you're so maddened from lack of sleep, but it's still nasty.

When you are ready for a vision it will happen, induced visions are not true, unless its for a vision quest or a right of passage!!

I found, no matter how willingly I try that I cannot INDUCE visions. Personally, I also think it is not a force to be reckoned with. If you are not recieving preminition, it is for a reason that you are not. In my opinion, trying to interupt the natural flow of recieving a vision or message is a curruption to the cycle in it's own way.

Honestly, I think a lot of these answers are sort of pretentious. Locking yourself in a dark room will not induce visions or make shadow people arise. If you get visions, can see auras, or messages from the other side, even sense, feel or see entities such as shadow people, it is for a reason; maybe simply that you are more in touch with your intuitive side then most (such as myself). It goes to show hoe society is playing such a major role even on people here in this site.
If you are here, posting a forum or responding, I think it should be taken a bit more seriously, especially after seeing how much work and devotion others put into this site.

i agree with bloodysparklesoul

well peyote is one and ive done that with my uncle who is native american and meditaion ive done only been able to do it once though ...

There is a long tradition of using herbs both to aid sleep and to aid dreaming. Many spells were devised to achieve certain ends. These herbs are considered by many, even in present day, to be magical and therefore have ascribed to them the appropriate gender. By tradition they were also ruled by the various astrological bodies and also had assigned to them an element-Earth, Fire, Air or Water.
Buchu
Gender: Feminine
Planet: Moon
Element: Water

Spell: Mix with Frankincense and burn just before you retire. This will produce prophetic dreams. It must be used sparingly and only in the bedroom!

Braken
Gender: Masculine
Planet: Mercury
Element: Air

Spell: Place under your pillow and it will solve, by dreams, any problem you want solving.

Cinquefoil
Gender: Masculine
Planet: Jupiter
Spell: Find a sprig with seven leaflets and put under your pillow to dream of a future lover or mate.

Helitrope
(Poison)
Gender: Masculine
Planet: Sun
Element: Fire

Spell: Place under your pillow to induce prophetic dreams. If one has been robbed the face of the thief will appear in your dreams.

Jasmine

Gender: Feminine
Planet: Moon
Element: Water

Spell: Burn in bedroom for prophetic dreams.

Marigold
Gender: Masculine
Planet: Sun
Element: Fire

Spell: Place under your pillow to make your dreams come true. In addition it will reveal the face of someone who has robbed you.

Mugwort

Gender: Feminine
Planet: Venus
Element: Earth

Spell: Place under your pillow. It is burned with sandalwood or wormwood during scrying rituals. Drink an infusion before divination. Place it next to the bed to help with astral projection.

Rose
Gender: Feminine
Planet: Venus
Element: Water

Spell: Drink rose tea before going to be to induce prophetic dreams. It is especially useful for women to see their future lover.

I thought this was interesting and might help some of you out. :)

I can see why the Reverend won the contest.

Inducement of visions is just finding the right catalyst. It is necessary to have the right chemical to alter the mind to STEP OUTSIDE OF YOURSELF

that is all this is about. Just like walking away from a lover you finally feel her true nature

or sitting on the edge of her bed you can see you life better

an inducement is going to get you an out of body experience, it would help if you had a QUESTion that the vision QUEST could focus on, other wise you are just using drugs.